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D.A.
6/8/2018 9:48 AM
...to lead its alumni association. What say you?

https://ohiotoday.org/news/2018/06/07/erin-essak-kopp-ohi...
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RPO R6V
6/9/2018 1:58 AM

I say, "**** that."

Last Edited: 6/9/2018 8:53:37 AM by Ted Thompson
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rpbobcat
6/9/2018 9:14 AM
Looking at her picture.
Are "Duct Tape" cuffs an in thing now ?
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Deciduous Forest Cat
6/9/2018 12:07 PM
On principle I'm against this. I'm also against our own f**king magazine using the word "the" in reference to osu. I've seen WOUB do this as well.

I swear we are our own worst enemy.

That said, if she gets more Bobcats engaged in their own university, then get it done.
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rpbobcat
6/9/2018 12:52 PM
I always thought the Alumni Association was at least a somewhat independent body.

From reading the article it appears that the Alumni Association is just like any other "department" at O.U.

It would be interesting to see how many Alumni work for the Alumni Association.

As far as this hire,it would be nice to have someone with some ties to O.U. as the head of your Alumni Association.
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Recovering Journalist
6/10/2018 2:13 PM
It is pretty myopic to think that someone has to go to a university in order to engage alumni of that institution. Nellis referred to this hire with enthusiasm at a recent event. I hope her experience at schools with significantly larger endowments and much better alumni engagement leads to good things at Ohio.
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Mike Johnson
6/12/2018 1:07 PM
It doesn't bother me at all when alums of other schools work at Ohio. I do expect them to give their all for Ohio while employed at our alma mater.

I'm thinking of John Burns. Retired now, he was long-time head of Ohio's law department. He is a Miami grad. He still, understandably, has warm vibes for Miami and has attended class reunions.

That said, he bleeds green and lots of it!
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catfan28
6/14/2018 7:24 PM
For virtually any other job on campus, it doesn't matter if you're an alumnus or not to me.

However, I think it should be a prerequisite to lead the ALUMNI Association. She'll probably be here for 1-3 years and move on to greener pastures. No thanks.
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Alan Swank
6/15/2018 10:25 AM
catfan28 wrote:expand_more
For virtually any other job on campus, it doesn't matter if you're an alumnus or not to me.

However, I think it should be a prerequisite to lead the ALUMNI Association. She'll probably be here for 1-3 years and move on to greener pastures. No thanks.
The last one, an Illinois grad, lasted 4.5 years. I can see both sides of the discussion. Since this is primarily a sales job, it would be nice to have "Swanky's" stories in your repetoire of sales pitches.
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bobcatsquared
6/15/2018 10:47 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Since this is primarily a sales job, it would be nice to have "Swanky's" stories in your repetoire of sales pitches.
Wouldn't that eliminate applicants for the position who are under the age of 50? 45? A bit discriminatory, no?
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Alan Swank
6/15/2018 11:27 AM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Since this is primarily a sales job, it would be nice to have "Swanky's" stories in your repetoire of sales pitches.
Wouldn't that eliminate applicants for the position who are under the age of 50? 45? A bit discriminatory, no?
Not at all considering by the last count, 9 million people attended Woodstock.
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rpbobcat
6/15/2018 11:55 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Since this is primarily a sales job, it would be nice to have "Swanky's" stories in your repetoire of sales pitches.
Wouldn't that eliminate applicants for the position who are under the age of 50? 45? A bit discriminatory, no?
Not at all considering by the last count, 9 million people attended Woodstock.
Just to go O.T. for a bit.

I was just shy of my 16th birthday in the Summer of 69.

I had a 3 day ticket to Woodstock.

Figured,if I bought it, my parents wouldn't have a choice but to let me and my friends,one of whom had a driver's license,go.

Yea, sure.
Not only weren't any of us allowed to go,I had to eat the cost of the ticket.

Afterwards I ripped it into pieces and tossed it in the trash.
Never thought it would be worth big bucks someday.

Looking back,my parents made the right decision.
Last Edited: 6/15/2018 12:04:56 PM by rpbobcat
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Alan Swank
6/15/2018 4:27 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Since this is primarily a sales job, it would be nice to have "Swanky's" stories in your repetoire of sales pitches.
Wouldn't that eliminate applicants for the position who are under the age of 50? 45? A bit discriminatory, no?
Not at all considering by the last count, 9 million people attended Woodstock.
Just to go O.T. for a bit.

I was just shy of my 16th birthday in the Summer of 69.

I had a 3 day ticket to Woodstock.

Figured,if I bought it, my parents wouldn't have a choice but to let me and my friends,one of whom had a driver's license,go.

Yea, sure.
Not only weren't any of us allowed to go,I had to eat the cost of the ticket.

Afterwards I ripped it into pieces and tossed it in the trash.
Never thought it would be worth big bucks someday.

Looking back,my parents made the right decision.
I'd agree with every statement except the last sentence.
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OhioCatFan
6/15/2018 11:52 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I'd agree with every statement except the last sentence.
What would you expect from an old hippie? ;-)
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TWT
7/2/2018 11:16 PM
For a lot of our alums OU was just the place where they met their spouse. After graduation they moved on to a bigger brand, be it pro sports or boating on Lake Erie or life working in the city. They look down on OU and its shortcomings. Distance, perception its an undergraduate college, small town with nothing to offer but charm. Thus the problems of being a popular school. Universities like Colorado and Kansas have some of those same challenges but make up for it by having larger college towns of greater economic importance to their respective states with much larger business communities for support.
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TWT
7/2/2018 11:27 PM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
It is pretty myopic to think that someone has to go to a university in order to engage alumni of that institution. Nellis referred to this hire with enthusiasm at a recent event. I hope her experience at schools with significantly larger endowments and much better alumni engagement leads to good things at Ohio.
The modern OU student is likely not married with kids 2 years out of college like what was typical years ago. They are looking for a sense of community and engagement. From that angle having someone in the capacity that understands the mindset of young alumni is a good thing.
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Alan Swank
7/3/2018 12:50 PM
Pretty intersting article on alumni giving. I read an article this week (still looking for it) that said only 7.4% of college alumni actually give to their alma mater.

https://www.alumnifactor.com/node/5854
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catfan28
7/7/2018 11:56 AM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
It is pretty myopic to think that someone has to go to a university in order to engage alumni of that institution. Nellis referred to this hire with enthusiasm at a recent event. I hope her experience at schools with significantly larger endowments and much better alumni engagement leads to good things at Ohio.
Of course he did. Then again, Nellis isn't a Bobcat either. He (and most of the upper admin) are just part of Higher Education, Inc. - with no particular loyalty to anything than their own wallets. Color me rather unimpressed with Nellis thus far.
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Recovering Journalist
7/24/2018 3:42 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
For virtually any other job on campus, it doesn't matter if you're an alumnus or not to me.

However, I think it should be a prerequisite to lead the ALUMNI Association. She'll probably be here for 1-3 years and move on to greener pastures. No thanks.
The last one, an Illinois grad, lasted 4.5 years. I can see both sides of the discussion. Since this is primarily a sales job, it would be nice to have "Swanky's" stories in your repetoire of sales pitches.
I see some value in that shared experience, but what a hopelessly parochial and inward-looking place the university would be if we exclusively staffed it in that way. There are a number of Ohio alumni on the staff. Some fresh perspective is a good thing.
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rpbobcat
7/24/2018 3:52 PM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
For virtually any other job on campus, it doesn't matter if you're an alumnus or not to me.

However, I think it should be a prerequisite to lead the ALUMNI Association. She'll probably be here for 1-3 years and move on to greener pastures. No thanks.
The last one, an Illinois grad, lasted 4.5 years. I can see both sides of the discussion. Since this is primarily a sales job, it would be nice to have "Swanky's" stories in your repetoire of sales pitches.
I see some value in that shared experience, but what a hopelessly parochial and inward-looking place the university would be if we exclusively staffed it in that way. There are a number of Ohio alumni on the staff. Some fresh perspective is a good thing.
I have no problem with the Alumni Association having other then O.U. Alumni on staff.
But I do feel that,as catfan28 said,the leader of the Alumni Association should be an Alum,even if they didn't graduate from here.
I might even consider someone who, while not an Alum has close ties to O.U.
Last Edited: 7/24/2018 3:54:39 PM by rpbobcat
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OhioCatFan
7/24/2018 11:02 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
For virtually any other job on campus, it doesn't matter if you're an alumnus or not to me.

However, I think it should be a prerequisite to lead the ALUMNI Association. She'll probably be here for 1-3 years and move on to greener pastures. No thanks.
The last one, an Illinois grad, lasted 4.5 years. I can see both sides of the discussion. Since this is primarily a sales job, it would be nice to have "Swanky's" stories in your repetoire of sales pitches.
I see some value in that shared experience, but what a hopelessly parochial and inward-looking place the university would be if we exclusively staffed it in that way. There are a number of Ohio alumni on the staff. Some fresh perspective is a good thing.
I have no problem with the Alumni Association having other then O.U. Alumni on staff.
But I do feel that,as catfan28 said,the leader of the Alumni Association should be an Alum,even if they didn't graduate from here.
I might even consider someone who, while not an Alum has close ties to O.U.
+1 I tend to agree with this point of view. It would be interesting to look at other colleges and see how many of them ever hired alumni directors who were graduates of other institutions. I don't know the answer to this question, but my guess would be that it is fairly rare -- the exception rather than the rule.
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