Equestrian sports are real sports.
For the horse. :-)

But,all kidding aside,jumping takes a lot of skill by both the rider and the horse.

I've done some small jumps,and that was scary.

If any one doesn't realize how dangerous a sport equestrian can be,just look at what happened to Christopher Reeve.
Perfect example of trying to jump,before you are ready.

Oh yes, they did, but that was before both us were born. Please read the Hoover history of Ohio University for many, many examples. Here's but one example: The Eagleson Bill in 1914 which gave Ohio and Miami .025 mills for their general funds and .015 mills for their normal schools, and the "stripping," as Hoover called them, got .16 mills for all of its activities. At that point, the General Assembly also repealed the 1896 Sleeper Bill, named after former Speaker of the House David L. Sleeper (R-Athens), which had given Ohio and Miami their first regular appropriations as part of the state budget. That same year the junior institution had introduced in the General Assembly a bill to change its name to the "University of Ohio." It failed. They tried again in 1917. It failed again. It then had to settle for having the now-infamous "The" added to its name. And, thus began the equally infamous "name stealing" culminating in the "Battle of Ohio" lawsuit circa 2000.

To give you a flavor of the period, here's but one paragraph from Hoover's book: "Ellis' administration was marked by a growing friction between Ohio University and Ohio State University. This rivalry had begun in the late 'sixties [1860s] when efforts were being made to establish the younger school at Columbus. The legislation of 1896 and 1902 had magnified the dissension, which was only partially relieved by the law of 1906. A new source of irritation arose in 1914, when Ohio State authorities, seeking to obtain a name for their university that would correspond to the names of similar institutions in neighboring states, tried to change the name from Ohio State University to the University of Ohio."

You are correct, the Eagleson Bill was 1906. I was confused because the even more restrictive Lybarger Bill, which was defeated, was introduced also in 1906. I had thought the Eagleson Bill was several years later, upon checking sources, my memory was wrong. The Lybarger Bill would have restricted Ohio and Miami to only their normal schools getting state support. Guy Potter Benson, president of Miami, said the blame for the introduction of this bill was certain OSU professors who had posed as Ohio and Miami alumni and told the legislators that they were in favor of this concept. According to Benton, these professors had sought to increase their personal incomes and build up the Columbus institution at the expense of the smaller universities. Hover says, "The defeat of the Lybarger Bill in early March [1906] was loudly celebrated in Athens.

Just found an interesting article about this from 20 Oct 2017 issue of the Toledo Blade: https://tinyurl.com/wmxy3nt

Here's a key quote from the article, about the Lybarger Bill:

"Miami and Ohio, both of which are substantially older than Ohio State, were furious at the bill. Walter Havighurst’s The Miami Years 1809-1969 noted that protests broke out in both Oxford and Athens, and supporters of the schools mobilized. In Athens, a meeting at the city courtroom led to a fund for concerned citizens to travel to Columbus to lobby against the bill."

So this begs the question. Were you rejected for admission to Miami?

Let's get back on topic here

Miami Sucks

Yes, Miami does indeed suck, and that's all that I was trying to say with this little thread and was a little taken aback by those who swiftly came to Miami's defense. Extremism in the service of pointing out Miami's suckitude is no vice.

As for the more serious issue of the attempted compromise, that must have happened before Hayes was Governor because my understanding of the history is that once he was in office, OSU was pretty much manifest destiny. He even went so far as to make a compromise with Cincinnati politicians and businessmen allowing municipal universities in cities over 150K population, which was only Cincy at the time. Cincinnati was subsequently able to cobble some existing colleges together and endow them as a singular municipal university while Hayes received their support in not only founding OSU but putting it in Columbus (away from the ag interests in Springfield) and giving it a comprehensive "classic" curriculum that included arts, sciences etc. Had he not made that compromise, there's a good chance that OSU would have been located in Springfield and under the thumb of the agricultural interests would have been much more of a practical "farmer training" school, which would have given Ohio (and Miami) much more breathing room to grow as comprehensive universities.

Miami or OSU? I know a great deal about both and the history of higher education in Ohio. You do know that I worked for a state Senator on the higher education committee.

Yes, much of this occurred before Hayes became governor in 1868. In fact, the lobbying in Columbus for Morrill Act funds by Ohio started before the end of the Rebellion -- on 28 Sep 1863 a special committee of the Trustees was chosen to work on the acquiring of Morrill Act funding. There were attempts to coordinate things with Miami from the beginning, and according to one historian an earlier compromise would probably have been successful, but as time wore on, the concept of a new separate university gained favor. Then, in 1868, perhaps as you suggest due to the leadership of Hayes, a committee of the Legislature asked for and received proposals for a new Morrill Act college from Worthington, Oxford, Urbana, Wooster and Newark. The committee favored either Urbana or Wooster. Two years later they choose the outskirts of Columbus, when Franklin County offered $300,000 in bonds for help start the school. It is interesting that Oxford, but not Athens, appeared on that 1868 list. Perhaps, after the failure of the earlier compromise efforts, Ohio had given up by that time. It would be interesting to look back at some of the primary source material relating to all of this. For the most part, I only have secondary sources. I did review some primary source material at OSU that related to the 1914-17, "University of Ohio" and the "The" business.

I have no idea what this means. Just wanted to know the name of the Senator to see what party he was in.

Good old Gene, Gene the dancing machine. God rest his soul but he was far right before there was a far right. No friend of LGBT folks. On the flip side he was ahead of his time calling for accountability through state testing. A friend of mine and fellow Bobcat worked on one of his early campaigns.

Gene(Gene, Gene the Pancaking Machine) was pretty reprehensible on a lot of things, but he was good on higher ed reform and restructuring, and it was a time when pols could overlook their differences and work together on the things they did agree on. Unfortunately, Voinovich was not the Governor under whom to get anything constructive done with higher ed. He just viewed it as a piggy bank for his budget cuts. And of course, there's his famous address to the statewide Young Republicans convention where he went on talking about how his administration was going to turn all of I-71 into a giant Silicon Valley and in the very next sentence says, "and we'll get those professors out of their research labs and into your classrooms." Insert facepalm meme.

Well, the state legislature doesn’t care what you think (or anyone not lining their pockets), bottom line, privates are rewarded for not being judged by the same standards and test, which have been designed by non-educators for the most part. So no offense, but no one cares what any of us think. And yes Jay voted against public tax payers. Interesting you seem to believe teachers unions are at fault here.