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Topic: we need safeties bad
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allen
12/3/2011 9:02 AM
We need two Juco safeties and two high school safeties. This position needs to be addressed.
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Buster
12/3/2011 11:42 AM
Are you forgetting Xavier Hughes??  
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Monroe Slavin
12/3/2011 1:52 PM
What's the word on the progress of Aaron Macer?  I understood that he was/is a pretty good get.
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Cats-22
12/4/2011 9:10 AM
Two freshmen and a junior at that position is tough.  Getting Hughes healthy plus a year of experience for the other guys, safety will be in solid shape next season.  Though, I agree we need some S recruits and there's an opportunity for a recruit to come in and contribute.
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Doc Bobcat
12/4/2011 9:38 AM
Yeah....some safeties excel in stopping the run and others in the passing game.....it's obvious we need to work on the passing side.

Hughes was our best cover safety and we lost him for the year.....Moore needs to improve on his cover skills.....Kristoff is more like an extra linebacker......Ingol played lots of wide receiver in high school so he should be a decent cover safety as well as Macer who played QB.  Carpenter may be our best safety but his inexperience and height hurt him a tad this year.  Maybe he can grow over the summer....haha.

No need to panic......experienta docet.
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Ted Thompson
12/4/2011 11:33 AM
Some of Harnish's throws were up in the air so long I thought his receivers were going to fair catch them. And no safeties in sight. They must get an adequate backup for Hughes next year. He is playing safety in a cornerback's body and could get hurt again. 
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Paul Graham
12/4/2011 1:51 PM
Yeah, I completely agree with this. Kristoff is (I'm sorry to say) too slow.

When Hughes went down, the pass defense went down with him. Carpenter is great, but also too short and a little slow. Not to mention Leftwich, who is also consistently getting beat.
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Bobcatzblitz
12/4/2011 3:40 PM
You ever think that the corners are getting beat because they know that the 'help" behind them is null and void?? I spoke with Leftwich and the kid has played all season with a torn labrun that requires surgery after the bowl game..I dare you throw one of the better kids that we have under the bus. If you get Leftwich and Carrie some safety help and a semblance of a pass rush Ohio will have 2 of the better corners in the MAC hands down.
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Bobcatzblitz
12/4/2011 3:42 PM
I wouldn't expect anyone thats never played football to think beyond oh my he gave up a pass..no corner even Revis goes with out giving up something and on the TD's that Ohio corners have given up the safety either bit on the run or was too slow to get down the field..terrible to ask your corner to run with a man for 40- 50 yards on a post pattern.
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Bcat2
12/4/2011 3:51 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
What's the word on the progress of Aaron Macer?  I understood that he was/is a pretty good get.


Just checked his bio. 3 sports in hs, fb, track and basketball.  Part of the bigger, stronger and faster movement. 
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Bobcatzblitz
12/4/2011 3:56 PM
He may rotate in next year I dont see them going away from Gerald Moore and Xavier Hughes..maybe see if they can save Hughes body a bit for passing downs. Love the way he puts everything into each hit but one of the better guys at playing the ball when it is in the air.
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Monroe Slavin
12/4/2011 4:12 PM
The comments here remind me that I was not terribly impressed with Harnish.  He's not bad but he wasn't special against us.  And I wonder how he'd done if we'd've blitzed him more.
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Paul Graham
12/4/2011 5:39 PM
Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
You ever think that the corners are getting beat because they know that the 'help" behind them is null and void?? I spoke with Leftwich and the kid has played all season with a torn labrun that requires surgery after the bowl game..I dare you throw one of the better kids that we have under the bus. If you get Leftwich and Carrie some safety help and a semblance of a pass rush Ohio will have 2 of the better corners in the MAC hands down.


Sheesh, sorry.
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Bcat2
12/4/2011 7:58 PM
Bobcatzblitz wrote:expand_more
He may rotate in next year I dont see them going away from Gerald Moore and Xavier Hughes..maybe see if they can save Hughes body a bit for passing downs. Love the way he puts everything into each hit but one of the better guys at playing the ball when it is in the air.


Would be wonderfull to have Moore and Hughes both 100%  Best possible scenario. 
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allen
12/4/2011 11:08 PM
This might sound harsh but there should be an open competion at safety Moore has been below par as well. We need two fast cover guys maybe we can move Jamil Shaw over.
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Paul Graham
12/4/2011 11:19 PM
Lets not forget Toran Davis, who will probably play safety.

Agreed, Moore did not have a great year. 
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Bobcatzblitz
12/5/2011 12:05 PM
Travis Carrie would be a NFL Draft pick at safety I am convinced.
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allen
12/7/2011 10:13 PM
good call bobcat blitz. We need 3 safeties that can compete. Hughes is the only one some what cemented.
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allen
12/17/2011 10:13 PM
great win. Now lets get two big time safeties to come in and compete.
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