Exactly.....pros have stats on balls thrown a WR's way and the number of receptions.....I think Matt catches most thrown his.....we've had a ton of dropped passes....and as most of us would agree TT has been a tad off for whatever reason......we lose about 3 more WR's and we'll be more than glad to have him....better than runnin Vick out there.

He also holds on XPs and FGs. So far, Ohio is getting its scholarship's worth out of him. 

Oh, no doubt Vick can play WR, but, if he would get hurt playing WR, that creates additional problems.

Huh......first 2 minutes of tonights game....somebody stole Matt Water's jersey....#80 with 2 catches on passes thrown behind him.....results in 3 points for da Cats.

We're all down tonight, but you seem especially negative Barry. Did you let Hester goad you into overspending on a locker full of junk again?

(I know, it was a lame attempt at humor, but I think we're all liable to become depressed tonight, trying to liven things up)

We have plenty of guys who can catch the ball. We've got to stop bringing in players that aren't athletic. We've got guys on this team that are Knorr-era caliber athletes. We should have moved beyond players like this years ago. Guys that weren't offered by other schools for a reason.

Matt Waters reminds me of a WR from a little more than a decade ago - Joe Mohler. Waters might not have as much breakaway speed as Mohler, but Waters seems to run good routes and find openings over the middle. And I haven't seen many drops, so it looks like he has good hands. I like him - he's made some big 3rd down catches this year.

He's one of the few that we drafted with that intent......Futrell was a DB in high school....Bussey never developed to a deep threat....Cochran got hurt.....Clark was a DB who disappeared in the second half....you tell me with all the injuries who you would use as the greatest coach on the planet.

Guys-give me a break!  I said he is solid and pointed out his pluses.  Are you trying to tell me he has Taylor Price or Lavon Brazil speed and quickness and ability to stretch the field vertically?  Am I missing someone who (isn't hurt and) can take the pressure off the line of scrimmage?

I'm not sure what your problem is with Waters. But guys like Brazill don't grow on trees. Ohio has brought in guys they think can be Brazill. They also bring in guys who can be Riley Dunlop. If you look at the amount of production of each scholarship that's being used, I'd say you're getting more return here than other places. And like LC has pointed out, he fills a role for 2 years instead of occupying a ship for 5 years.

OK, lets use Dovell as an example. I happen to like Dovell, so the following is not intended as a criticism of him any any way. I think he would have had a big year this year, had he not gotten hurt, and will have one next year, and possibly the year after, if he gets another year of eligibility.

Dovell was a member of the 2009 recruiting class.
2009 - Redshirted
2010 - 4 catches, 32 yards
2011 - 8 catches, 151 yards
2012 - 3 catches, 29 yards
Total - 15 catches, 212 yards, Total cost - 4 years of scholarship (so far)

Matt Waters - 12 catches, 195 yards (so far), Total cost - 1 year of scholarship (so far)

The fact is, Waters is earning his keep, and that isn't even taking into account his role of holding on place kicks, or on special teams.

What would have happened if Waters wasn't here? Well, one of two things. Either we'd be seeing more of walkons like Sawyer or Dixon, or they would play one of the true Freshman, such as Jordan Reid. Now, I'm guessing that Reid isn't quite ready, or they would be playing him, but if he develops into a good receiver, as I think he will, you may be glad to have him in 2016, whereas if he were used this year, he'd be gone in 2016.

The core problem, as discussed on another thread, is that the 2010 recruiting class was a step backwards, and that meant bringing in some JUCOs to try to fill the gap. The receivers in the 2010 class were Cochran and Brandon Atwell. Atwell is now at linebacker, I believe, and Cochran has been OK, but no Lavon Brazill.