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Topic: 2014 C Kirk Barron (Mishawaka (IN) Marian HS) - Ohio Decommit
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Posted: 5/9/2013 11:59 PM
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247Sports.com and Rivals are both showing a verbal commitment from Mishawaka (IN) Marian High School center Kirk Barron. Both 247Sport.com and Rivals rate Barron as 3 stars. The 6-3, 297-pounder chose Ohio over offers from Ball St. and UMass.

http://247sports.com/Article/Kirk-Barron-Commits-To-Ohio-130146

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Posted: 5/10/2013 7:27 AM
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Haha....great vid......the pancakinator......this kid can plow the road.
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Posted: 5/10/2013 7:51 AM
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With Mr. Barron, Langenkamp, Wood, Murdock, Leavitt there is going to be a short yardage push in their time.  Can someone send them some tapes of a new thing in college called pass protection so they can work on it before they get in. Joking of course, just rarely see high school videos of the linemen in pass pro.
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Posted: 5/10/2013 10:47 AM
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Hopefully we'll have lots of 3rd and 1 situations where they can just line up and "plow". 
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Posted: 5/10/2013 11:34 AM
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Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
With Mr. Barron, Langenkamp, Wood, Murdock, Leavitt there is going to be a short yardage push in their time.  Can someone send them some tapes of a new thing in college called pass protection so they can work on it before they get in. Joking of course, just rarely see high school videos of the linemen in pass pro.


I'm guessing thats because run-blocking/plowing guys over is more visually impressive for a high-light video
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Posted: 5/10/2013 11:42 AM
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mf279801 wrote:expand_more
With Mr. Barron, Langenkamp, Wood, Murdock, Leavitt there is going to be a short yardage push in their time.  Can someone send them some tapes of a new thing in college called pass protection so they can work on it before they get in. Joking of course, just rarely see high school videos of the linemen in pass pro.


I'm guessing thats because run-blocking/plowing guys over is more visually impressive for a high-light video


For sure......it depends some on the offense they run in high school.

Murdock should have some experience since they ran a pass happy offense at Dublin.
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Posted: 5/10/2013 12:05 PM
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I was actually thinking that Murdock's highlights were mostly pass blocking. I would agree, though - on a highlight reel run blocking where the defender is driven 15 yards and buried is going to look more impressive than a play where the defender pass rushes and gets nowhere. The pass blocking is equally important, but won't look as impressive, as least to casual viewer.
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Posted: 5/10/2013 12:30 PM
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mf279801 wrote:expand_more
With Mr. Barron, Langenkamp, Wood, Murdock, Leavitt there is going to be a short yardage push in their time.  Can someone send them some tapes of a new thing in college called pass protection so they can work on it before they get in. Joking of course, just rarely see high school videos of the linemen in pass pro.


I'm guessing thats because run-blocking/plowing guys over is more visually impressive for a high-light video



Also, pass protection is more about technique than brute force (don't get me wrong....brute force certainly helps), and unless you have a high school O-line coach who really knows what he is doing, you're not going to get a lot of focus on good technique.
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Posted: 5/23/2013 10:11 AM
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I love how rivals moved this kid from a 3 star down to a 2 star after giving Ohio a commitment.
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Posted: 5/23/2013 11:23 AM
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Yes, I see they did. In all the time I've been watching, that's the first time I've ever seen them do it, though. I have seen them raise kids after committing to Ohio, however. In the end it's all about how he does on the field, not the stars, anyway.
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Posted: 5/23/2013 11:43 AM
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This kid is gonna be a good.
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Posted: 5/23/2013 9:12 PM
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Scout has him a 3 star and the number 17 center. Still a lot of love to get that
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Posted: 6/14/2013 10:09 PM
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Barron decommits from Ohio and commits to Purdue. 
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Posted: 6/14/2013 10:47 PM
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I guess he didn't like the idea of the Rice Bowl!
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Posted: 6/15/2013 6:33 AM
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Can't really blame him. At least it's not the week of signing .
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Posted: 6/15/2013 10:52 AM
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Agreed. I wish him luck. FWIW, the WOUB article has a small error:
Carter Eckl wrote:expand_more
Without his commitment the Bobcats’ 2014 class is down to four players: quarterback Joey Duckworth; tight end Connor Brown; tight end Kyle Kuhar; defensive end Kent Berger; and offensive lineman Stephen Langenkamp.

That's five.
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
Agreed. I wish him luck. FWIW, the WOUB article has a small error:
Without his commitment the Bobcats’ 2014 class is down to four players: quarterback Joey Duckworth; tight end Connor Brown; tight end Kyle Kuhar; defensive end Kent Berger; and offensive lineman Stephen Langenkamp.

That's five.



What's OUr record for most decommits in a year?

The Danny Doomers are sayin Duckworth will go....so that would be 2......maybe that's the record.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 1:55 PM
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ohio9704 wrote:expand_more
I guess he didn't like the idea of the Rice Bowl!


+1,804
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Posted: 6/15/2013 4:23 PM
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wonder what Darrell Hazell said to get him to change his mind.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 4:30 PM
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perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
wonder what Darrell Hazell said to get him to change his mind.


"I've got a scholarship for you..."
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:23 PM
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brucecuth wrote:expand_more
"I've got a scholarship for you..."

He's a kid from Indiana. He probably grew up dreaming of playing in the Big Tenfinity. When he accepted the Ohio offer, he had no Tenfinity offers, and then he gets one from one of the schools in his home state.

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What's OUr record for most decommits in a year?

The Danny Doomers are sayin Duckworth will go....so that would be 2......maybe that's the record.


Maybe, but probably not for long. When Ohio was mostly recruiting under-the-radar players, you weren't going to see this happen very often at all. Now that most of the players Ohio has offered are Big Tenfinity caliber, or close, we will see it more often. We just need to accept that having this happen more is a natural consequence of going after more and more 3-star players.
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Posted: 6/18/2013 2:44 PM
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I love how rivals moved this kid from a 3 star down to a 2 star after giving Ohio a commitment.

You will have a strong case for prejudice if he now goes back up to 3 stars, having moved to Purdue.
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Posted: 6/19/2013 9:41 AM
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One decommit and a bunch of guys going somewhere else per ted.  I realize these guys are going to bigger name places and I understand we are recruiting better players early on but we still need to get, keep and sign more of these kinds of guys if we are going anywhwhere.  I guess we haven't arrived yet!.
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Posted: 6/19/2013 11:44 AM
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Recruiting is part art, obviously. Last year they had the class largely filled very early, but people on here complained that they were all 2-star players, and that there weren't enough 3-star players. None of the recruits who accepted last year had any AQ offers.  I have no doubt that they are good players, and that the class was one of the best in Ohio history, but still, with it filling so fast, could they have done even better?

This year they seem to have gone after a slightly higher section of the recruiting spectrum, with the result that a substantial number of the players with offers also have AQ offers. Considering that this will be a smaller recruiting class, I think that was a reasonable decision. If they can land a four or five 3-star players, and then later fill the class with players of the same quality that they normally recruit, this will be an excellent class.

Has Ohio "arrived"? Can they recruit toe-to-toe with AQ schools? No, but with the stratified nature of AQ/non-AQ teams, that isn't surprising. They are certainly recruiting as well as most non-AQ teams, though, which is something that could not be said 8 years ago.
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
Recruiting is part art, obviously. Last year they had the class largely filled very early, but people on here complained that they were all 2-star players, and that there weren't enough 3-star players. None of the recruits who accepted last year had any AQ offers.  I have no doubt that they are good players, and that the class was one of the best in Ohio history, but still, with it filling so fast, could they have done even better?

This year they seem to have gone after a slightly higher section of the recruiting spectrum, with the result that a substantial number of the players with offers also have AQ offers. Considering that this will be a smaller recruiting class, I think that was a reasonable decision. If they can land a four or five 3-star players, and then later fill the class with players of the same quality that they normally recruit, this will be an excellent class.

Has Ohio "arrived"? Can they recruit toe-to-toe with AQ schools? No, but with the stratified nature of AQ/non-AQ teams, that isn't surprising. They are certainly recruiting as well as most non-AQ teams, though, which is something that could not be said 8 years ago.


I think this is accurate.
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