This is helpful, thank you.

I definitely want a good RB. I'd take a giant bruiser, though I think we could use a smaller more athletic guy considering Boykin and Blankenship are both the bruising kind. Daz is quick, but I'd still like a nice spread option style back.

It's all abOUt the D-line.

That Casey Sayles kid will be a really good pick up if he sticks. He is still hoping for an offer from Nebraska as a TE but Nebraska is waiting for a juco TE to make his decision. I have watched him play a couple of times this year and he has some talent. 

FYI I am jealous that you guys have Frank Solich. I am a Nebraska fan and was really disappointed when he got fired after a 9-3 season. He is a really solid coach and has definitely done some wonderful things for Ohio. It is kinda funny here in Nebraska a lot of the fans still love Solich and on gamedays you will see flags that are half Nebraska and half Ohio. 

Well said!  Wish Frank were still in Lincoln, but happy for his wonderful success in OHIO!  Glad Bobcats appreciate him, unlike some Nebraskans.  Would love to see Cats go 14-0.  Excellent depth, solid leaders, resilient team, growing and enthusiastic fan base and great coaching are a winning combo.

On the whole I think Ohio does a lot better getting Freshmen in than taking JUCOs. With Freshmen you get some gems in the rough, and you have time to improve them. With JUCOs they are what they are, and the "name" schools take the cream of the crop, so for the most part Ohio ends up with role players, not stars, or even starters. Defensive line is probably the hardest of all positions to recruit for, and thus the JUCO players on the defensive line are probably more picked over than any other position.

As a result, defensive line is not a position where Ohio has done particularly well bringing in JUCOs. . On the defensive line the players they have brought in over the years are Alan Goff (2006), Corey Moncrief (2008), Brad Spivey (2011 - did he ever enroll?), and in this year's class, Wade Wells, who already left, and Ty Branz. Ty Branz seems to be getting more playing time than the ones that came before him.

I'm not going to say that Ohio never should recruit JUCOs. They have done well at some positions, like QB and WR, with players like T3, Boo, Nwokocha, and now Matt Waters, and at other positions also got solid players in Errik Ejike and Patrick Tafua, among others. JUCOs can help, but they aren't always the best answer.

Added Dorian Brown to the list.

Boy, what is the deal with Rivals and Scout?  They have only 7/8 recruits for us and only the 2 Coffman guys are at 3 stars.  I know we love to say the recruiting services are of no value when ranking MAC teams and 4 years out our recruits have proven to be pretty good.  Seriously though, do they not get information on our recruits and when will we ever be in the top half af ALL BCS division teams recruiting wise?  As an example, toledo is at #59 in Scout with 7 of 14 recruits at 3 Stars.  Another close example is cincinnati with 6 of 16 3 star guys. 

I still believe until we routinely get 10 or so 3 Star recruits, we won't really be getting better talent than anyone else in the MAC.  I know  we can DEVELOP talent but doesn't anybody else believe, like me, we should be getting some better talent at this time?

My point was similiar teams are getting significantly higher rated players.  I stated that we develop players well but it would be nicer to START with a higher rated player and watch them improve to an even higher level.  If Toledo can be ranked #59 why is OHIO down at #80 or #100?  Just asking...

Agreed, there is just far too many high school players for the recruiting services to evaluate. It's mostly speculation and word of mouth. I wouldn't fret about it too much. We've seen that these guys Solich gets turn out to be very good players.

Uh, after the last three or four weeks I rest my case.  And, I repeat...we do not recruit anywhere near the top of the MAC and now it shows. 

We are NOT getting enough 3 star type players to finish business.  Very disappointing that after 8 years this appears to be about as good as it gets.  I repeat, if Toledo or NIU can get 8-9-10 3 star type guys why can't OHIO? 
I'm tired of hearing we "develop" players.  It's like in school, if you start with kids who have 1600 SAT scores, all you need is a bit of improvement to be a top academic school.  If you start with kids who have 1100 SAT scores and improve them 20%, you're still way behind.  That's our story.  We are way behind in recruiting the kind of talent I thought we'd have in year 8 and what is needed to win the MACC.

End of story.

All I know is somewhere along the way Kent, Miami and BG have caught up to us.  Toledo and NIU have always been ahead of us.  We have zero MACC.  I know we have some division titles.  We probably have fewer NFL STARTERS than anyone in the Conference.  With the exception of 3-4 guys, most of our players have been undrafted free agents who aren't around anymore.

I am familiar with UC who 8 years ago was not any better than us.  although they lost to Toledo this year they crushed miami.  And, the number of 3 star recruits they are getting now is far greater than it ever used to be and a lot higher than us.  To emphasize, we need to start out with recruits who are bigger, faster, stronger and better players at all positions.