What's going on with their recruiting - very impressive...

As I have said many times, if FS&Co could START with a two or three recruit groups like this can you imagine where we would be now?  That's sorta what i thought would happen win a guy who was in the National Cham game ccame to Athens 9/10 years ago.

So, I guess we might all agree that FS can coach but maybe isn't that much of a salesman?

Bcat2, you seriously don't get me...I simply said that if this staff had a salesman who recruited like that two or three years in a row OHIO would be in a better place.  You continue to think 3-star guys are irrelevant or are not really 3-star guys and our recruits who are NR or 2-stars are the best.  I don't doubt some are under the radar guys and good.  But, I repeat...I would like to START with overall higher rated players and i thought this staff could get them.  I simply said that compared to WMU there is a lack of a "salesman".  Do you disagree with that?  If so, how does he have a top 50 recruiting class this year and we are down near 100?

Just look at the 2-4 -star guys WMU will probably sign.  Offers from all over the Big10 so I guess none of those schools know how to recruit but our "under the radar" guys are better than 4 star guys.  I don't get you?!?  We're lucky if we've had 2-4-star guys the last 10 years and WMU gets that many in one class?  Maybe he can't coach but he sure can recruit.

As I have stated elsewhere, just look at how many 3-star guys even the 50-60-70 ranked classes have...  DOUBLE DIGITS!  That is what I would like to see from this staff.  And that would move us ahead a lot faster than what we are doing now.

Great recruiters are not always successful coaches. An example that comes to mind is Ron Zook. I do agree that Solich's greater strengths are coaching and motivating teamwork, and that recruiting is not so much a top skill, but I do think he's OK at it. In fairness, when Solich got to Ohio, the facilities were sub-standard, and that had to make recruiting harder for him, just as it did for his predecessors.

Over the last decade the facilities have caught up, and I think the IPF is the last major piece,.I think you can see in this class the difference that the IPF, and 5 straight bowl games is starting to make. I hope recruiting continues to improve, but I am very excited about this class.

News Flash:  I'm less than perfect, Monroe is less than perfect, Bcat2 is less than perfect, and even stat-magician L.C. is less than perfect.  We are all human and make mistakes.  I don't think anyone, including, Bcat is saying that Frank is perfect or that we didn't make mistakes last year.  I think the difference is that some of us feel based on past experience that Frank will fix things going forward, just like he overhauled the offense a few years ago after the Troy meltdown.  You, however, seem to dwell on the doom and gloom that we all feel after the last year.  Others are trying to raise spirits by pointing out that the glass is half full.  This last two seasons would have been a high-point of any continued Knorr regime.  There would have been dancing in the streets at seven wins and bowl game.  Now, it's a down year.  That's progress.  In Frank I still trust.  If that makes me a shill, so be it.  I've shilled for much worse.