No linemen yet?

yes definitely DB's and fast WR's, TE and a couple LB's

We'll see. I still think that the D-line has proven the strength of this year's team. And the end-of-eligibility losses will be significant.

Bcat2 is back to tell us STARS mean nothing. Obviously, there are weird ratings and situations. having said that, don't tell me the WMU way of getting 10 or more 3-star guys a year hasn't paid off. it may not ensure winning but it makes it a lot easier when you have that much talent! Especially if you are in the MAC.

And everyone gets a trophy every day for everything.

In fact, when there are games, both teams win!

He also doesn't get that 99.9% of them will go out into the real world and get a job. They are STUDENT-athletes which is a foreign concept to him.

And anything but a MACC is failure according to him. A MACC is more important to some people (i.e Monroe) than kids majoring in mechanical engineering, economics, computer science, etc., making the deans list and graduating with a GPA over 3.9.

Sorry you are unable to READ and COMPREHEND.

And not a thing in the drivel above has a thing to do with my prior post. Thanks for yet again CHOOSING to not address FACTS.

Yes, Monroe. Actually, it is true. The primary goal of a University is to educate students, and to assist those students to mature in life. Athletics has long played a role in education, for hundreds or thousands of years for two reasons. First, keeping your body healthy is also important for keeping your mind healthy.

Second, sports can be used to teach life lessons. It can teach the students the importance of focusing their efforts. It can teach them teamwork. It can teach them leadership. It can teach them perseverance. It can teach them not to give up, and to overcome difficulties. It can teach them that when you fail, you don't give up, you work harder, and improve. I'm sure there are many more life lessons that I'm forgetting, but in the end, the goal of the University it to turn out better people, and people who will go on to successes in life. Sports is a method of doing that.

More recently I would add a third goal to the list, affirmative action. Often athletes come from difficult life situations. Sports gives them an alternate path to success. One type of story that I love to hear are of a kid that grew up in a bad neighborhood, surrounded by gangs and drugs, who worked at a sport, went on to become an athlete, earned a scholarship, and then left college to succeed in life.

In my opinion, something has gone very wrong with sports. The fans put all the emphasis on winning, and none on the educational aspects of it. For many fans, players are there to be used, and then discarded when their time is up, or sooner if they don't produce. Who needs an academic center, anyway? Should we really care if athletes graduate, or only if they win a championship? I believe that athletics is the worse for it. Perhaps sports should be left to professional teams, rather than being a part of college.

+1

But did Ohio fail Monroe? Did he get an education? And has he matured in life? I can't answer that but the jury may still be out :)

It is interesting that you say this when I never mentioned anyone getting a trophy for participation, nor for anything other than winning. Note that I also didn't mention sportsmanship, though you can learn that from sports, too. The whole point of sports is to try to win, of course, but not everyone can win. Striving to win is the point, and you can learn from it whether you win, or whether you don't. Giving participation trophies is exactly the opposite because it diminishes the point of trying to win.

One place where I differ from Monroe is on the importance of the trophy itself. To me there are more than one measure of success. Also, to me when you take the attitude that winning is the only thing, you end up with other problems, like ethical issues and coaching salaries spiraling out of control. There are other places as well where I disagree with Monroe, and that is far from the only one.

Getting back to recruiting, another nice addition today. This is turning into a class Casper should like. Lots of players from Florida and Texas, and almost all are 3-star. Also, almost everyone who has committed has a bunch of other offers.

allen. And given the quality of the senior class, have been for a while.

I wish I could agree with you here, but even the coaches said they needed to recruit better. Solich said he did not take a QB last year because they could not not find the guy, they said they would no longer take a guy, but would be relentless in finding the guy. I do appreciate our seniors. I appreciate all of the players.