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Posted: 10/7/2018 12:05 AM
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Buried in debris of the win at Kent was the fact Frank won his 100th game at Ohio.

That makes him only third coach in league history with 100 wins.

And it doesn't appear he's shutting it down very soon ... so I'll go out on a limb and say he will leave Ohio with the most coaching wins in MAC history.

Let that sink in.

Herb Deromedi (CMU) - 110 wins
Bill Hess (Ohio) - 108 wins
Frank Solich (Ohio) - 100 wins
Bob Pruett (Marshall) - 79 wins
Doyt Perry (BG) - 77 wins

Now let this sink in

Deromedi 3 MACC
Hess 4 MACC
Solich 0 MACC
Pruett 5 MACC
Perry 5 MACC

I know some will be after me with torches & pitchforks for posting this.

But I simply find this amazing.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 1:32 AM
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In Solich's defense, many of those MAC championships for the other coaches didn't involve winning a MACCG. They had to have the best league record in the regular season. Solich's 2006 Ohio team tied CMU for best regular season MAC record at 7-1, but lost to CMU in the MACCG. And the MAC mostly had six-game seasons until the mid-'70s, so a regular season championship could be won by winning fewer games. Not trying to diminish the other coaches' accomplishments and I realize that a championship is decided by the method used at a given time. And I do want Ohio to win the MACCG this year. But some comparisons may be apples to oranges. Just as we need to take into consideration that Solich has coached more games than many of the other coaches because of the 12-game regular seasons and more opportunities for post-seasons than there used to be.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 1:43 AM
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bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Buried in debris of the win at Kent was the fact Frank won his 100th game at Ohio.

That makes him only third coach in league history with 100 wins.

And it doesn't appear he's shutting it down very soon ... so I'll go out on a limb and say he will leave Ohio with the most coaching wins in MAC history.

Let that sink in.

Herb Deromedi (CMU) - 110 wins
Bill Hess (Ohio) - 108 wins
Frank Solich (Ohio) - 100 wins
Bob Pruett (Marshall) - 79 wins
Doyt Perry (BG) - 77 wins

Now let this sink in

Deromedi 3 MACC
Hess 4 MACC
Solich 0 MACC
Pruett 5 MACC
Perry 5 MACC

I know some will be after me with torches & pitchforks for posting this.

But I simply find this amazing.
WOW. 12:05 a.m. with the daily reminder about Solich's lack of conference championships. How many more times will it come up this day? Anyway a person has to get up pretty early to beat you to this self appointed duty.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 8:25 AM
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Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
Buried in debris of the win at Kent was the fact Frank won his 100th game at Ohio.

That makes him only third coach in league history with 100 wins.

And it doesn't appear he's shutting it down very soon ... so I'll go out on a limb and say he will leave Ohio with the most coaching wins in MAC history.

Let that sink in.

Herb Deromedi (CMU) - 110 wins
Bill Hess (Ohio) - 108 wins
Frank Solich (Ohio) - 100 wins
Bob Pruett (Marshall) - 79 wins
Doyt Perry (BG) - 77 wins

Now let this sink in

Deromedi 3 MACC
Hess 4 MACC
Solich 0 MACC
Pruett 5 MACC
Perry 5 MACC

I know some will be after me with torches & pitchforks for posting this.

But I simply find this amazing.
WOW. 12:05 a.m. with the daily reminder about Solich's lack of conference championships. How many more times will it come up this day? Anyway a person has to get up pretty early to beat you to this self appointed duty.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 8:41 AM
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Pataskala wrote:expand_more
In Solich's defense, many of those MAC championships for the other coaches didn't involve winning a MACCG. They had to have the best league record in the regular season. Solich's 2006 Ohio team tied CMU for best regular season MAC record at 7-1, but lost to CMU in the MACCG. And the MAC mostly had six-game seasons until the mid-'70s, so a regular season championship could be won by winning fewer games. Not trying to diminish the other coaches' accomplishments and I realize that a championship is decided by the method used at a given time. And I do want Ohio to win the MACCG this year. But some comparisons may be apples to oranges. Just as we need to take into consideration that Solich has coached more games than many of the other coaches because of the 12-game regular seasons and more opportunities for post-seasons than there used to be.
You're exactly right. It is different eras of football for sure.

But winning a championship is winning a championship. No matter a one-game scenario or 10-games.

It's just mind-blowing to me that after all these years & wins, he has yet to get one. Pretty remarkable.

Of the Top 20 coaches in MAC history .... Frank, Randy Walker, Bill Cubit & Don Nehlen are the only four to never win a title. Those other three were all around 8 or 9 years at their respective schools.

Just thought it was amazing when I read that.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 10:56 AM
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Pruett should have an * since he was running mops for props program at Marshall. The MAC worked out a deal to host the conference title game in Huntington where Pruett had a rowdy home crowd advantage. Hess and Perry won titles out of the equivalent of MAC EAST so not too impressive. How many seasons has Frank won less than 6 games? Only 2. What about some of those other coaches on the list?
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Posted: 10/7/2018 12:11 PM
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Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
Pruett should have an * since he was running mops for props program at Marshall. The MAC worked out a deal to host the conference title game in Huntington where Pruett had a rowdy home crowd advantage. Hess and Perry won titles out of the equivalent of MAC EAST so not too impressive. How many seasons has Frank won less than 6 games? Only 2. What about some of those other coaches on the list?
Also have to remember a lot of those seasons teams didn't play 12 games as previously posted ... and they didn't play FCS teams typically.

But for arguments sake ...

Randy Walker- 3 (9 years)
Herb Dermodi - 5 (16 years)
Bill Hess - 12 (20 years)
Bob Pruett - 0
Gary Pinkel - 2 (10 years)
Don Nehlen - 0 (9 years)
Dennis Stolz - 5 (9 years)
Bill Mallory - 2 (9 years)
Al Molde - 3 (10 years)
Joe Novak - 5 (12 years)
Gary Blackney - 6 (10 years)
Paul Schudel - 4 (10 years)
Tom Amstutz - 3 (8 years)
Bill Doolittle - 5 (11 years)
Bill Cubit - 3 (8 years)
Dan Simrell - 2 (8 years)
Terry Hoeppner - 0 (6 years)
Frank Lauterbur - 5 (8 years)
Rod Carey - 1 (6 years)
Frank Solich - 2 (14 years)

I would happily trade a few 4-8 years for a MAC title or two.

Pretty much sums up Frank's tenure ... good, but never great.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 1:06 PM
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...Also have to remember a lot of those seasons teams didn't play 12 games as previously posted ... and they didn't play FCS teams typically.
...

They were common in the 60's, and early 70's, but they were rare from 1977 until 1999. Since 1999, Ohio has played one every year except 2001 and 2005.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 1:36 PM
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...Also have to remember a lot of those seasons teams didn't play 12 games as previously posted ... and they didn't play FCS teams typically.
...

They were common in the 60's, and early 70's, but they were rare from 1977 until 1999. Since 1999, Ohio has played one every year except 2001 and 2005.
Exactly. Majority of those coaches didn't have luxury of FCS game ... something Frank has 13 of 14 years
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Posted: 10/7/2018 2:21 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
They were common in the 60's, and early 70's, but they were rare from 1977 until 1999. Since 1999, Ohio has played one every year except 2001 and 2005.
The concept of FCS didn't really exist back then, though. Some would argue that the MAC itself was "FCS" until 1982. The current classifications didn't really get sorted out until the mid 1980s.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 2:49 PM
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They were common in the 60's, and early 70's, but they were rare from 1977 until 1999. Since 1999, Ohio has played one every year except 2001 and 2005.
The concept of FCS didn't really exist back then, though. Some would argue that the MAC itself was "FCS" until 1982. The current classifications didn't really get sorted out until the mid 1980s.
I-AA started in 1978
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Posted: 10/7/2018 2:55 PM
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There were divisions even before 1978. Ohio was the "Small College National Champion" in 1960, if I recall correctly. Then, to confuse things more, teams have moved up and/or down over the years. It is not something where you can ever get an apples to apples comparison.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 5:39 PM
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:10 PM
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Wish I had been there for #100. Needed to be at my wife's cousin's, Sister Caroline, 50th Jubilee. Was a good day for both.
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There were divisions even before 1978. Ohio was the "Small College National Champion" in 1960, if I recall correctly. Then, to confuse things more, teams have moved up and/or down over the years. It is not something where you can ever get an apples to apples comparison.
Plus unlimited scholarships by the big powers prior to 1973 and one platoon football prior to 1965. The MAC was 75 scholarship up until 1992. Everything from 2006 on though is apples to apples since the 12 game schedule and APR rule was in place at that point. Aside from a few new protective penalties and moving the touchback to the 25 not much has changed since 2006.
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