Either you're green and growing, or ripe and rotting. Ohio football is the latter. Solich, Albin and Burrow have shown virtually no improvement for a long time. Ohio football is stale. Either they can't start a game, or can't finish it. Either way, they do not play 60 good minutes of football.

We will now divide into two camps. Most will have their Moral Victories Bowl t-shirts printed. I will join the few that live in reality. I stopped comparing results to the Lichtenberg and Knorr eras a long time ago. My checkbook is closed and my feelings are apathetic.

Think Nebraska would trade us coaching staffs right now? I'm up for it if they are.

Your home next week and had a very close road trip. No excuses next week.

Unfortunately, unless the defense improves, the same can be said for Ohio.

+1.

Interesting that the same person you trust to make a good decision on an option is the same person you distrust to make a decision throwing the ball. Yet the fundamentals of the two plays are the same.

Let's ignore the fact that he led the team in fumbles lost, again, ball security! He's lost as many fumbles as Irons and AJ combined.

The fundamentals of running an option play and a passing play are not the same.

The decision making of ball security is always the same!

How did firing Marty Schottenheimer work out for the Browns?

With a offensive performance last year ranked 10th in the country and this year even with a tepid start 47th in the country I feel like I need to see more evidence before I'm in full protest mode against the coaching staff. These next two games the staff has to win. They have to win both of them and right the record above .500.

Aren't they camped out at the Holiday Inn to prevent any temptation the night before home games?

I'm not sure you are understanding my point. My point is that when you have coaches that perform pretty well, but not quite to the elite level that some expect, making a coaching change doesn't always immediately result in the success you wanted. Sometimes the coaching change does. But no successful examples of that immediately come to mind for me. (edit: I think Dabo Sweeney at Clemson may be a good example of this)

The examples you listed here are not the same situation. Both Babers and Clawson took over for coaches that had back-to-back losing seasons. So of course you'd want to consider a coaching change then.

We are talking about examples of coaches like Saban at MSU, Solich at Nebraska and I guess Schottenheimer with the Browns, that were consistently pretty good, but didn't take the next step.

Their immediate replacements not only didn't get the organization where they wanted to go, it actually resulted in something worse.

I don't want that to happen to OU.

I understand some people think it is worth a risk.

At this time, I don't.

I do enjoy 8-9 wins each year, an occasional win over a P5 school, competing for a MACC and a bowl game. I would love an access bowl. I don't think replacing Solich guarantees that. I don't think the gap between what Ohio has done over the past 10 years and what NIU and Toledo has done is that great (although I fully acknowledge that NIU had a nice run we're all jealous of). I also acknowledge Solich hasn't led us to a MACC. I hate that too.

When Solich is gone -- either after some losing seasons or whenever he wants to retire -- maybe Arth is the guy to take us to the magical "next level". But I'm not willing to give up what are likely to be very fun seasons with Solich and an overall solid program when we don't have to.