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Buckeye to Bobcat
10/15/2018 9:34 PM
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BillyTheCat
10/16/2018 10:17 AM
I don't know the bouncing Larry Hunter head was pretty funny.
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OUcats82
10/16/2018 10:38 AM
It is pretty depressing to learn of these realities in life.

Homer Bailey with the Reds this year went 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and was/is getting paid $21 million for it. Nice work if you can get it?!
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C Money
10/16/2018 10:43 AM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
Homer Bailey with the Reds this year went 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and was/is getting paid $21 million for it. Nice work if you can get it?!
Ugh. I said at the time it was signed, that was the dumbest contract in baseball. Bailey was, at his best, a decent third man in the rotation. And that was ignoring his frequent trips to the DL, which have become more common since.

But let's pay him ace money!
Last Edited: 10/16/2018 10:47:44 AM by C Money
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colobobcat66
10/16/2018 11:38 AM
C Money wrote:expand_more
Homer Bailey with the Reds this year went 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and was/is getting paid $21 million for it. Nice work if you can get it?!
Ugh. I said at the time it was signed, that was the dumbest contract in baseball. Bailey was, at his best, a decent third man in the rotation. And that was ignoring his frequent trips to the DL, which have become more common since.

But let's pay him ace money!
2 no hitters swayed the money guys
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OU_Country
10/16/2018 11:47 AM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Homer Bailey with the Reds this year went 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and was/is getting paid $21 million for it. Nice work if you can get it?!
Ugh. I said at the time it was signed, that was the dumbest contract in baseball. Bailey was, at his best, a decent third man in the rotation. And that was ignoring his frequent trips to the DL, which have become more common since.

But let's pay him ace money!
2 no hitters swayed the money guys
Sad thing is, ownership hasn't yet shown that they're wise enough to let the baseball guys make decisions instead of pushing to sign players they like the most. It wouldn't shock me if they gave Hamilton a 3 year deal at more than he's worth this offseason, solely because Castellini likes him a lot.
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bobcatsquared
10/16/2018 3:36 PM
Can't argue with the above statements about Homer's salary.

However, what might be even worse is paying a punch-and-Judy #2 hitter (masquerading as a #3 hitter) $25M this year and $25M each of the next 5 years.
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BillyTheCat
10/16/2018 5:21 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Can't argue with the above statements about Homer's salary.

However, what might be even worse is paying a punch-and-Judy #2 hitter (masquerading as a #3 hitter) $25M this year and $25M each of the next 5 years.
+1

Not to mention he was more like Judy and was missing any punch this year.
Last Edited: 10/16/2018 5:22:06 PM by BillyTheCat
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Buckeye to Bobcat
10/16/2018 7:13 PM
Leave it to Reds fans to hijack this thread.
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OUcats82
10/17/2018 12:51 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Homer Bailey with the Reds this year went 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and was/is getting paid $21 million for it. Nice work if you can get it?!
Ugh. I said at the time it was signed, that was the dumbest contract in baseball. Bailey was, at his best, a decent third man in the rotation. And that was ignoring his frequent trips to the DL, which have become more common since.

But let's pay him ace money!
2 no hitters swayed the money guys
Sad thing is, ownership hasn't yet shown that they're wise enough to let the baseball guys make decisions instead of pushing to sign players they like the most. It wouldn't shock me if they gave Hamilton a 3 year deal at more than he's worth this offseason, solely because Castellini likes him a lot.
I've decided to just have no expectations for the franchise until the Castellini's sell the team.
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OU_Country
10/17/2018 5:04 PM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Leave it to Reds fans to hijack this thread.
Reds baseball is important! ;)
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ou79
10/18/2018 7:51 AM
In another note, how about those Steelers????
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OU_Country
10/18/2018 10:02 AM
ou79 wrote:expand_more
In another note, how about those Steelers????
They play baseball too?
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JSF
10/18/2018 11:35 AM
C Money wrote:expand_more
Homer Bailey with the Reds this year went 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and was/is getting paid $21 million for it. Nice work if you can get it?!
Ugh. I said at the time it was signed, that was the dumbest contract in baseball. Bailey was, at his best, a decent third man in the rotation. And that was ignoring his frequent trips to the DL, which have become more common since.
The Reds paid Bailey $21 million this year to produce -1.5 WAR. That's staggering. It's also a relative bargain compared to the Orioles sending Chris Davis $23 million to put up a -2.8 WAR, one of the 20 or so worst performances in the history of baseball. Both deals make the Ryan Howard contract look fiscally sound.

At least Cincy can buy Bailey out for 20% of his 2020 contract after next season. Baltimore is stuck paying the full amount to Davis for the life of the contract, which runs until 2022.
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OhioStunter
10/18/2018 7:16 PM
Every July 1 through 2035, the New York Mets pay Bobby Bonilla $1,193,248.20.
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mf279801
10/18/2018 10:33 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Every July 1 through 2035, the New York Mets pay Bobby Bonilla $1,193,248.20.
Is Steve Young still getting paid on his USFL rookie contract?
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Pataskala
10/19/2018 11:42 AM
mf279801 wrote:expand_more
Every July 1 through 2035, the New York Mets pay Bobby Bonilla $1,193,248.20.
Is Steve Young still getting paid on his USFL rookie contract?
Nope. Apparently he had to take a big chunk of his annual salary as an annuity that stayed in the team owner's name. He opted to take $1 million a year instead, and that stopped when the USFL tanked. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/flashback-steve-youngs... /
Last Edited: 10/19/2018 11:43:14 AM by Pataskala
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AZBobcat
10/19/2018 12:03 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Can't argue with the above statements about Homer's salary.

However, what might be even worse is paying a punch-and-Judy #2 hitter (masquerading as a #3 hitter) $25M this year and $25M each of the next 5 years.
Go to Redszone with this take and they'll chase you out of town with pitchforks. I've never seen a site more angry at the implication that maybe, just maybe, a player isn't doing what you'd think he'd be doing for that kind of money.
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OU_Country
10/19/2018 1:00 PM
ORBobcat wrote:expand_more
Can't argue with the above statements about Homer's salary.

However, what might be even worse is paying a punch-and-Judy #2 hitter (masquerading as a #3 hitter) $25M this year and $25M each of the next 5 years.
Go to Redszone with this take and they'll chase you out of town with pitchforks. I've never seen a site more angry at the implication that maybe, just maybe, a player isn't doing what you'd think he'd be doing for that kind of money.
Votto has been fantastic, and is alongside Tony Perez as the best first basemen in club history (in my opinion). If he can regain form for 2-3 more years - tough for his age, I know - I think he's potentially getting HOF votes when he's eligible. He is a great hitter. All that said, I think his contract was a bad idea for the Reds. Had they been able to continue to put players around he and Brandon Phillips, they would have been good ideas. But Big Bob is a weird owner who spends on favorite players rather than making wise baseball decisions based on the GM's approach.
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Ohio69
10/19/2018 1:41 PM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
It is pretty depressing to learn of these realities in life.

Homer Bailey with the Reds this year went 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and was/is getting paid $21 million for it. Nice work if you can get it?!
Next year: $23 million. Yikes. Can he even be a solid 7th or 8th inning reliever at this point?
Last Edited: 10/19/2018 1:41:20 PM by Ohio69
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OU_Country
10/19/2018 2:41 PM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
It is pretty depressing to learn of these realities in life.

Homer Bailey with the Reds this year went 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and was/is getting paid $21 million for it. Nice work if you can get it?!
Next year: $23 million. Yikes. Can he even be a solid 7th or 8th inning reliever at this point?
At this point, I'd bring him back for the spring, give him an honest chance to earn a rotation spot, and release/trade him before the season starts if he doesn't. I know the trade market will be minimal for him, but if he showed signs of life in the spring, maybe they dump him for a couple prospects and still pay his salary. They're stuck with it anyway.
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OhioStunter
10/19/2018 4:09 PM
To *sorta* bring this back to BA.com relevancy, I think this type of trend is what may be the downfall of pro sports and I would hope help schools like OU. Let me explain:

I have a hard time justifying shelling out these outrageous prices to pro games to watch guys making $20M half-ass it. But, I still enjoy live sports, especially with my kids or friends.

I've resorted to minor league baseball games to get the same type of live sports experience at a fraction of the cost. And these guys play hard.

Same for college sports. OU is such a great ticket value for what you get (not counting concessions). And these kids play hard. As pro sports price themselves out of a normal fan's budget, hungry live sports fans may turn to college sports to get their fix.
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OU_Country
10/19/2018 4:52 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
To *sorta* bring this back to BA.com relevancy, I think this type of trend is what may be the downfall of pro sports and I would hope help schools like OU. Let me explain:

I have a hard time justifying shelling out these outrageous prices to pro games to watch guys making $20M half-ass it. But, I still enjoy live sports, especially with my kids or friends.

I've resorted to minor league baseball games to get the same type of live sports experience at a fraction of the cost. And these guys play hard.

Same for college sports. OU is such a great ticket value for what you get (not counting concessions). And these kids play hard. As pro sports price themselves out of a normal fan's budget, hungry live sports fans may turn to college sports to get their fix.
You make a good point. I've turned towards racing in the summer for an affordable ticket and great experience for that very reason. Other than certain special events, you can't sell me on a $100 football ticket, be it NFL, or P5 College football. I just won't pay it and instead I'll watch on TV. Same applies to concerts, and other sporting events. Ask me to pay $75 for nosebleeds at a concert and I'll just stay home. The value proposition isn't there for me.

And that's one thing that I try to sell people on regarding Ohio Football and Basketball. Depending on what your ticket package is, a day trip to Athens for an OU game is a lot of bang for your buck. Tailgating is dynamite. Three nice breweries, two nice wineries, and plenty of hiking, biking, and shopping opportunities make for a good day to go with a game as well.
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