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Topic: Week 12 MAC SChedule
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Ted Thompson
11/19/2018 3:45 PM

Tuesday, November 20
*Ball State at Miami (-17), 7:00 pm ET (ESPN+)
*NIU (-5.5) at Western Michigan, 7:00 pm ET/6:00 pm CT (ESPNU)
Friday, November 23
*Akron at Ohio (-23.5), Noon ET (CBS Sports Network)
*Buffalo (-14.5) at Bowling Green, Noon ET (ESPNU)
*Central Michigan at Toledo (-18.5), Noon ET (ESPN3)
*Eastern Michigan (-13.5) at Kent State, Noon ET (ESPN3)

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ExCat21
11/19/2018 4:31 PM
Ball State 31 - Miami 30
BG 27- Buffalo 34



I want the Falcons to come threw but they throw a lot pick to seal our fate.
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BillyTheCat
11/19/2018 9:13 PM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Ball State 31 - Miami 30
BG 27- Buffalo 34



I want the Falcons to come threw but they throw a lot pick to seal our fate.
Of the 2, BGSU is the better bet.
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ExCat21
11/20/2018 12:21 PM
Please explain??? Ball State has the better chance at beating Miami. They are not one dimensional like NIU. And Buffalo can stop BGs running game. Ball State is our better chance. Ball State has played better competition this year than BG. James Gilbert can run better than Clair from BG which can open up play action pass. Even though we pounded Ball State.....Miami doesnt run like we do.
Last Edited: 11/20/2018 12:24:05 PM by ExCat21
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BillyTheCat
11/20/2018 1:28 PM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Please explain??? Ball State has the better chance at beating Miami. They are not one dimensional like NIU. And Buffalo can stop BGs running game. Ball State is our better chance. Ball State has played better competition this year than BG. James Gilbert can run better than Clair from BG which can open up play action pass. Even though we pounded Ball State.....Miami doesnt run like we do.
It's simple, the better "bet" is in reference to the odds presented by Vegas. Funny, people post the odds and %'s but yet you want to come at me when I simply comment on the information already posted.....hmmm
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ExCat21
11/20/2018 4:21 PM
Not coming at you. Just asking to explain past Vegas odds. They havent been correct in the past few games. Im talking about matchups. Ball State is a better match up than BG vs Buffalo. BG only does one thing well......Pass. They cant stop the run...they dont defend the pass well. Ball State has played ND and WKU who pass a lot. Ball State has seen a Miami-like team on their schedule. Thats all. Dont get all sensitive BTC.
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BillyTheCat
11/20/2018 9:54 PM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Not coming at you. Just asking to explain past Vegas odds. They havent been correct in the past few games. Im talking about matchups. Ball State is a better match up than BG vs Buffalo. BG only does one thing well......Pass. They cant stop the run...they dont defend the pass well. Ball State has played ND and WKU who pass a lot. Ball State has seen a Miami-like team on their schedule. Thats all. Dont get all sensitive BTC.

How is that ND game working for Ball State? paying dividends? And Vegas is right way more than they are wrong. They did not build Caesar's Palace on being right sometimes.
Last Edited: 11/20/2018 9:55:59 PM by BillyTheCat
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BillyTheCat
11/20/2018 9:58 PM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Not coming at you. Just asking to explain past Vegas odds. They havent been correct in the past few games. Im talking about matchups. Ball State is a better match up than BG vs Buffalo. BG only does one thing well......Pass. They cant stop the run...they dont defend the pass well. Ball State has played ND and WKU who pass a lot. Ball State has seen a Miami-like team on their schedule. Thats all. Dont get all sensitive BTC.

Miami has 366 yards rushing....I'm glad that ND and WKU pass alot. Ball's pass defense is forcing Miami to have to run the ball. Well done by Ball State
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cc-cat
11/20/2018 10:01 PM
Miami win eliminates us - correct?
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ExCat21
11/20/2018 10:12 PM
Ball State started off hot and had a complete meltdown in 2nd half. And yes we have been eliminated. Buffalo wins...their in. They lose and Redchickens go at 6 - 6.
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MonroeClassmate
11/20/2018 10:12 PM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
Miami's win eliminates us - correct!!!
Fixed it for you
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BillyTheCat
11/20/2018 10:39 PM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Ball State started off hot and had a complete meltdown in 2nd half. And yes we have been eliminated. Buffalo wins...their in. They lose and Redchickens go at 6 - 6.
Meltdown? Or Ball State came out on all emotion, and came back to earth as the game is a 60 minute marathon and not a sprint.
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bobcat695
11/20/2018 11:52 PM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Not coming at you. Just asking to explain past Vegas odds. They havent been correct in the past few games. Im talking about matchups. Ball State is a better match up than BG vs Buffalo. BG only does one thing well......Pass. They cant stop the run...they dont defend the pass well. Ball State has played ND and WKU who pass a lot. Ball State has seen a Miami-like team on their schedule. Thats all. Dont get all sensitive BTC.
Vegas set lines for one reason...to get equal amounts of money bet on each side. In an ideal world for the sportsbook, they want half the money on the winner, half the money on the loser. Loser gets zero and winner pays 10% vig to the house. It an automatic profit for the house.

A line is a best guess, but also meant to incite equal action. If too much money comes in on one team, the line moves to entice money on the opposite team. Historically, Vegas loses money when a lot of favorites win because most bettors take the favorite. For the record, betting on Ohio this season has been profitable. They're 7-4 against the spread, and their games have gone over 6/10 times.

If you want to look at odds of a team winning outright (which is what Ohio needed), you have to look at the moneyline figures. Ball State was slightly more likely to win than BG, but both were extreme long shots. Ball St was +431, BG is +492.

Unfortunately, this is the only kind of entertainment I get from Ohio Football after October 15th most seasons so I tend to pay attention. The MAC is a good conference to bet. If you see me cheering like crazy when Akron scores in the 4th, you'll know I took the game over 54.5.
Last Edited: 11/20/2018 11:55:01 PM by bobcat695
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Bcat2
11/21/2018 7:23 AM
bobcat695 wrote:expand_more
Not coming at you. Just asking to explain past Vegas odds. They havent been correct in the past few games. Im talking about matchups. Ball State is a better match up than BG vs Buffalo. BG only does one thing well......Pass. They cant stop the run...they dont defend the pass well. Ball State has played ND and WKU who pass a lot. Ball State has seen a Miami-like team on their schedule. Thats all. Dont get all sensitive BTC.
Vegas set lines for one reason...to get equal amounts of money bet on each side. In an ideal world for the sportsbook, they want half the money on the winner, half the money on the loser. Loser gets zero and winner pays 10% vig to the house. It an automatic profit for the house.

A line is a best guess, but also meant to incite equal action. If too much money comes in on one team, the line moves to entice money on the opposite team. Historically, Vegas loses money when a lot of favorites win because most bettors take the favorite. For the record, betting on Ohio this season has been profitable. They're 7-4 against the spread, and their games have gone over 6/10 times.

If you want to look at odds of a team winning outright (which is what Ohio needed), you have to look at the moneyline figures. Ball State was slightly more likely to win than BG, but both were extreme long shots. Ball St was +431, BG is +492.

Unfortunately, this is the only kind of entertainment I get from Ohio Football after October 15th most seasons so I tend to pay attention. The MAC is a good conference to bet. If you see me cheering like crazy when Akron scores in the 4th, you'll know I took the game over 54.5.
And in your spare time what do you like, digital currencies, commodities or penny stocks? ;)
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bobcat695
11/21/2018 8:33 AM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
Not coming at you. Just asking to explain past Vegas odds. They havent been correct in the past few games. Im talking about matchups. Ball State is a better match up than BG vs Buffalo. BG only does one thing well......Pass. They cant stop the run...they dont defend the pass well. Ball State has played ND and WKU who pass a lot. Ball State has seen a Miami-like team on their schedule. Thats all. Dont get all sensitive BTC.
Vegas set lines for one reason...to get equal amounts of money bet on each side. In an ideal world for the sportsbook, they want half the money on the winner, half the money on the loser. Loser gets zero and winner pays 10% vig to the house. It an automatic profit for the house.

A line is a best guess, but also meant to incite equal action. If too much money comes in on one team, the line moves to entice money on the opposite team. Historically, Vegas loses money when a lot of favorites win because most bettors take the favorite. For the record, betting on Ohio this season has been profitable. They're 7-4 against the spread, and their games have gone over 6/10 times.

If you want to look at odds of a team winning outright (which is what Ohio needed), you have to look at the moneyline figures. Ball State was slightly more likely to win than BG, but both were extreme long shots. Ball St was +431, BG is +492.

Unfortunately, this is the only kind of entertainment I get from Ohio Football after October 15th most seasons so I tend to pay attention. The MAC is a good conference to bet. If you see me cheering like crazy when Akron scores in the 4th, you'll know I took the game over 54.5.
And in your spare time what do you like, digital currencies, commodities or penny stocks? ;)
I'm a math guy. Also, commodities have had a good year.
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rpbobcat
11/21/2018 8:38 AM
bobcat695 wrote:expand_more
Not coming at you. Just asking to explain past Vegas odds. They havent been correct in the past few games. Im talking about matchups. Ball State is a better match up than BG vs Buffalo. BG only does one thing well......Pass. They cant stop the run...they dont defend the pass well. Ball State has played ND and WKU who pass a lot. Ball State has seen a Miami-like team on their schedule. Thats all. Dont get all sensitive BTC.
Vegas set lines for one reason...to get equal amounts of money bet on each side. In an ideal world for the sportsbook, they want half the money on the winner, half the money on the loser. Loser gets zero and winner pays 10% vig to the house. It an automatic profit for the house.

A line is a best guess, but also meant to incite equal action. If too much money comes in on one team, the line moves to entice money on the opposite team. Historically, Vegas loses money when a lot of favorites win because most bettors take the favorite. For the record, betting on Ohio this season has been profitable. They're 7-4 against the spread, and their games have gone over 6/10 times.

If you want to look at odds of a team winning outright (which is what Ohio needed), you have to look at the moneyline figures. Ball State was slightly more likely to win than BG, but both were extreme long shots. Ball St was +431, BG is +492.

Unfortunately, this is the only kind of entertainment I get from Ohio Football after October 15th most seasons so I tend to pay attention. The MAC is a good conference to bet. If you see me cheering like crazy when Akron scores in the 4th, you'll know I took the game over 54.5.
Now that New Jersey has legalized sports betting,several of the local radio stations have shows that go over all the ins and outs of it.

The shows deal primarily with pro teams,mostly NFL.

They've had on a number of guests who work for sports books.

Its interesting to hear how they set the lines on certain games, and why there
are sometimes significant variations in the lines between sports books.

Its interesting to listen to,but personally I have no interest in betting.

Back in the pre-legal days,I knew several people who lost big time,thinking they knew more then the bookies.
And,apparently, bookies do make threats if you get behind on payments.

Also don't know anyone who bet regularly,and came out ahead in the long run.
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