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Pataskala
11/14/2018 10:41 PM
According to the guys doing the NIU-Fiami game, if there's a three-way they look at head-to-heads against the rest of the division in order. So:

First, look at how the three teams did vs the #4 team, currently Akron. If Ohio, Buffalo and Fiami tie at 6-2, all three would have beaten Akron.

Next would be the #5 team, currently Kent (which beat BG). All three would've beaten Kent.

Finally, it's the #6 team, currently BG. Both Ohio and Fiami have beaten BG, but Buffalo would've lost, so it would be eliminated.

Then you go to the head-to-head between Ohio and Fiami, which would make Fiami the division champ.

That's why we need Fiami to lose one of these last two.
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bshot44
11/15/2018 12:11 AM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
According to the guys doing the NIU-Fiami game, if there's a three-way they look at head-to-heads against the rest of the division in order. So:

First, look at how the three teams did vs the #4 team, currently Akron. If Ohio, Buffalo and Fiami tie at 6-2, all three would have beaten Akron.

Next would be the #5 team, currently Kent (which beat BG). All three would've beaten Kent.

Finally, it's the #6 team, currently BG. Both Ohio and Fiami have beaten BG, but Buffalo would've lost, so it would be eliminated.

Then you go to the head-to-head between Ohio and Fiami, which would make Fiami the division champ.

That's why we need Fiami to lose one of these last two.
Funny thing is, the announcing clowns for the Ohio/UB game kept saying the MAC East was down to these two teams and if UB lost two and Ohio won two, they were MAC champs. Even put up a graphic as the game ended spelling it out.

It amazes me how ill-informed these guys are when they call MAC games. Almost like they just walked in off the street to call the game and did ZERO prep work.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
11/15/2018 8:43 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
According to the guys doing the NIU-Fiami game, if there's a three-way they look at head-to-heads against the rest of the division in order. So:

First, look at how the three teams did vs the #4 team, currently Akron. If Ohio, Buffalo and Fiami tie at 6-2, all three would have beaten Akron.

Next would be the #5 team, currently Kent (which beat BG). All three would've beaten Kent.

Finally, it's the #6 team, currently BG. Both Ohio and Fiami have beaten BG, but Buffalo would've lost, so it would be eliminated.

Then you go to the head-to-head between Ohio and Fiami, which would make Fiami the division champ.

That's why we need Fiami to lose one of these last two.
Funny thing is, the announcing clowns for the Ohio/UB game kept saying the MAC East was down to these two teams and if UB lost two and Ohio won two, they were MAC champs. Even put up a graphic as the game ended spelling it out.

It amazes me how ill-informed these guys are when they call MAC games. Almost like they just walked in off the street to call the game and did ZERO prep work.
We're just cannon fodder for these games before the SEC premier game or god forbid another O$U game
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Mike Coleman
11/15/2018 8:56 AM
Or they just assumed Miami would lose.
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Alan Swank
11/15/2018 9:16 AM
So if Miami wins Tuesday night, as far as we're concerned, the regalar season is over and the Akron game means nothing in terms of a conference championship game. Miami has a bowl game to play for so they'll be plenty fired upped at home.
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Pataskala
11/15/2018 9:53 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
So if Miami wins Tuesday night, as far as we're concerned, the regalar season is over and the Akron game means nothing in terms of a conference championship game. Miami has a bowl game to play for so they'll be plenty fired upped at home.
That's pretty much it. We lose any tie with Fiami.

And here's another suppose: Suppose Fiami wins the East. They'd be 6-6 overall. If they then lose the MACCG, they could go to a bowl game with a 6-7 record. Might not happens; it depends on whether both teams that play in a conference championship game are allowed to go. I know conference champs are allowed to go to a bowl regardless of their record.
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UpSan Bobcat
11/15/2018 10:17 AM
Miami has to root for Ohio to win because if Miami wins, Ohio loses and Buffalo loses, Buffalo goes to the championship game in a two-team tiebreaker.
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OU_Country
11/15/2018 10:30 AM
Is there a published article or something from the MAC that states the tiebreaker rules?
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bshot44
11/15/2018 10:37 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Is there a published article or something from the MAC that states the tiebreaker rules?
Three-way goes to best divisional record

Ohio 4-1
Miami 4-1
UB 3-2 (eliminated)

Then it's head to head for the final two

Miami 30
Ohio 28
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bobcat695
11/15/2018 10:41 AM
https://static.gomacsports.com/custompages/FactBooks/Tie-...
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OU_Country
11/15/2018 10:58 AM
bobcat695 wrote:expand_more
Thanks bobcat695!


Stealing the excerpt from this:

When more than two teams are tied, that ranking, based on wins and losses
against each other, qualifies the needed teams. If that win/loss ranking can’t be determined, and in the case of two tied teams, procedures #1 thru #4 are used to qualify a team or teams. The remaining teams revert back to the criteria in rank order.


1. Head-to-head results between and among the tied teams in traditional
season conference contests.

2. Tied teams’ traditional season won-loss records versus conference teams
starting with #1, then #2, etc

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Where I'm confused is - who are the teams we're comparing records against in item 2? The rest of the MAC East, or the whole of the MAC? Obviously, that's the only way Ohio gets in at this point.
Last Edited: 11/15/2018 11:00:57 AM by OU_Country
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Gman
11/15/2018 11:20 AM
You guys actually think BG is gonna beat Buffalo ? if so....I have some swamp land in Florida for sale, AS usual Albin was on point against Fiami no show in 1st half, There is no pressure on Albin now to win with Ohio 2 games back sure we beat Buffalo and we will beat Akron next week and at the end of the year we will be left scratching our heads just like the previous 13 years under Albin's play calling. When the chips are down he's a no show, its been proven for 14 years now.
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OU_Country
11/15/2018 11:24 AM
Gman wrote:expand_more
You guys actually think BG is gonna beat Buffalo ? if so....I have some swamp land in Florida for sale, AS usual Albin was on point against Fiami no show in 1st half, There is no pressure on Albin now to win with Ohio 2 games back sure we beat Buffalo and we will beat Akron next week and at the end of the year we will be left scratching our heads just like the previous 13 years under Albin's play calling. When the chips are down he's a no show, its been proven for 14 years now.
I don't think there's any chance in hell. :)

I just wanted to understand how the tiebreaker's work.
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Pataskala
11/15/2018 11:26 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Is there a published article or something from the MAC that states the tiebreaker rules?
Three-way goes to best divisional record

Ohio 4-1
Miami 4-1
UB 3-2 (eliminated)

Then it's head to head for the final two

Miami 30
Ohio 28
Any way you slice it, if we tie with Fiami we're screwed.
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Mike Coleman
11/15/2018 12:16 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Is there a published article or something from the MAC that states the tiebreaker rules?
Three-way goes to best divisional record

Ohio 4-1
Miami 4-1
UB 3-2 (eliminated)

Then it's head to head for the final two

Miami 30
Ohio 28
Any way you slice it, if we tie with Fiami we're screwed.
Correct, we are eliminated if Miami wins Tuesday
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giacomo
11/15/2018 12:17 PM
And if my aunt had balls,she'd be my uncle!
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
11/15/2018 12:36 PM
I'd say we should root for wonky weather next Friday in order for Bowling Green to have any shot against UB, but UB plays in Buffalo, so I don't think they'd be fazed.

And I'm looking out at a giant tree in my back yard completely downed just inches from my back window, so screw any more bad weather.
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OU_Country
11/15/2018 1:16 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
And if my aunt had balls,she'd be my uncle!
I was once told as a kid "Balls, balls, said the Queen, if I had two more, I'd be King."
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bobcat695
11/15/2018 2:52 PM
Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
I'd say we should root for wonky weather next Friday in order for Bowling Green to have any shot against UB, but UB plays in Buffalo, so I don't think they'd be fazed.

And I'm looking out at a giant tree in my back yard completely downed just inches from my back window, so screw any more bad weather.
My guess is that the only weather that could help us on Friday would be a meteor shower hitting Oxford, OH. Then, we'd still need Buffalo to lose. So, maybe two meteor showers on Friday is our wish.
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mf279801
11/15/2018 4:04 PM
We'll know by the time we wake up on Wednesday morning whether or not the outcome of Buffalo/BG matters to us. I don't think its hopeless for Ball State by any means (they will have 8 days of rest to Miami's 6, its a road game but not a long trip by any means), but I'm curious to see what sort of line Buffalo gets against BG. In any case, I don't see BG beating Buffalo for us (prove me wrong Carl!!!)
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OhioCatFan
11/16/2018 11:38 AM
Well, this time of year BG can have some darn awful weather with swirling winds throwing around snow, sleet and hale. The two worst games I can remember in terms of weather were one at Kent earlier in this century and a game at BG in 1968. My wife says still says she's never, ever been as cold as she was at that game -- won by OHIO. We can hope for a repeat next week! It would give us hope!
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Pataskala
11/16/2018 11:48 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Well, this time of year BG can have some darn awful weather with swirling winds throwing around snow, sleet and hale. The two worst games I can remember in terms of weather were one at Kent earlier in this century and a game at BG in 1968. My wife says still says she's never, ever been as cold as she was at that game -- won by OHIO. We can hope for a repeat next week! It would give us hope!
Unfortunately, Channel 10 calls for partly cloudy and 53 for next Friday. Could be different at BG but I doubt it.

I hope BG wins at Akron tomorrow. Two in a row could give them some momentum going into their senior day.

BSU's only road win so far this season was a one-pointer at CMU. Doesn't bode well.
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