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TWT
1/1/2019 11:45 PM
Tim Albin picked up a national award this week as a RB coach over the likes of coaches at Clemson, Kentucky and Oklahoma. Rushing offense was 10th in the country in 2018 and 6th in yards per carry. Nice accomplishment for the staff.

https://www.athensnews.com/news/sports/ou-s-offense-glean...
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OhioStunter
1/2/2019 12:01 PM
Congrats Tim! Do I recall a "Fire Tim Albin" thread?
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rpbobcat
1/2/2019 12:52 PM
Not to take anything away from the coach.
But,it did help having A.J. and Irons as OUr running backs.
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BillyTheCat
1/2/2019 1:33 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Congrats Tim! Do I recall a "Fire Tim Albin" thread?

Multiple threads, and not only Congrats Coach Albin, but the fact some heads are exploding is funny
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Bcat2
1/2/2019 3:16 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Not to take anything away from the coach.
But,it did help having A.J. and Irons as OUr running backs.
Props to the coaches who found them in the first place. No one else had either of them on their radar. Props to the player development folks who helped them both become bigger, stronger and faster. Props to coordinators who adapted to their strengths. Props to A.J. and Maleek for making all that they have of their opportunities at Ohio. The coaches were fortunate to have them, though, it was not luck that brought them together or made what they did together.
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OhioCatFan
1/2/2019 6:25 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Not to take anything away from the coach.
But,it did help having A.J. and Irons as OUr running backs.
Who do you think recruited them and developed them? Also, they would not have been worth diddlysquat had not the OL continued to improve during their years here. As I said in another thread, the 2018 version is one of the best OLs in OHIO history. The only other one I think that might come close was way back before most on this board were born -- 1960. This year's was probably better! I'm no expert on OL play, but I know a huge MAC-truck size hole when I see one (pun intended).
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BillyTheCat
1/2/2019 11:18 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Not to take anything away from the coach.
But,it did help having A.J. and Irons as OUr running backs.
Who do you think recruited them and developed them? Also, they would not have been worth diddlysquat had not the OL continued to improve during their years here. As I said in another thread, the 2018 version is one of the best OLs in OHIO history. The only other one I think that might come close was way back before most on this board were born -- 1960. This year's was probably better! I'm no expert on OL play, but I know a huge MAC-truck size hole when I see one (pun intended).
You are right, you are no Expert. 🙄😳
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doubledribble
1/3/2019 10:47 AM
Not only is Tim a top notch coach and teacher, he is probably the best recruiter on the staff, year in and year out. He is a relentless worker who has been responsible for finding quality prospects, then recruiting them, and developing them into solid student athletes our program can be proud of.
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
1/3/2019 11:46 AM
Both sides are being dishonest in this debate. (Imagine that.)

On one side, clearly the guy is a really good coach, teacher and recruiter.

On the other side, you're allowed to have issues with his playcalling without calling into question all those other abilities.

On the other, other side, it's probably not fair to question playcalling too much without knowing what expectations and guidelines he's being given from higher up the foodchain, too.
Last Edited: 1/3/2019 11:48:14 AM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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Bcat2
1/3/2019 1:07 PM
Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
Both sides are being dishonest in this debate. (Imagine that.)

On one side, clearly the guy is a really good coach, teacher and recruiter.

On the other side, you're allowed to have issues with his playcalling without calling into question all those other abilities.

On the other, other side, it's probably not fair to question playcalling too much without knowing what expectations and guidelines he's being given from higher up the food chain, too.
On the other, other, other side if you visit opponent fan sites the Ohio coaches are more respected than they are on Bobcat Attack. This season given 41 ppg., MAC leading Ttl Off, MAC leading Rushing Off, MAC leading Pass Eff, MAC leading first downs, MAC leading 3rd down conversions, MAC leading 4th down conversions, MAC leader Ttl Off (Rourke), MAC leader Rushing (Ouellette), MAC's #3 Receiver yds/g. (White) we might actually have to consider some positive play calling opposite the negative.
Last Edited: 1/3/2019 2:48:32 PM by Bcat2
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Chad E Guess D.C.
1/3/2019 1:46 PM
Grass is always greener on the other side....


I am grateful for what we have.
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
1/3/2019 2:48 PM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
Both sides are being dishonest in this debate. (Imagine that.)

On one side, clearly the guy is a really good coach, teacher and recruiter.

On the other side, you're allowed to have issues with his playcalling without calling into question all those other abilities.

On the other, other side, it's probably not fair to question playcalling too much without knowing what expectations and guidelines he's being given from higher up the food chain, too.
On the other, other, other side if you visit opponent fan sites the Ohio coaches are more respected than they are on Bobcat Attack. This season given 41 ppg., MAC leading Ttl Off, MAC leading Rushing Off, MAC leading Pass Eff, MAC leading first downs, MAC leading 3rd down conversions, MAC leading 4th down conversions, MAC leader Ttl Off (Rourke), MAC leader Rushing (Ouellette), MAC's #3 Receiver yds/g. (White) we might actually have some positive play calling opposite the negative to consider.
I'm not arguing that the performance of the offense, especially after the conference season began this year, has made his critics (including myself at times) look pretty stupid.

Largely because the foundation of that offense is built on will be proven genius if you're able to run the ball on first down successfully and if you can run t he ball inside the five yard line.

My questioning of it always comes when Ohio cannot do those things. The answer is there is no plan B. Either we run the ball on first down and run it in the red zone or the offense does not thrive.

I don't think that bothers this coaching staff. They've built a career on being able to run the ball. They've got 40 years of evidence on their side. That was not a problem in 2018. Good for them. It was awesome.

It bothers me and I don't matter. I just have my preference for an offense that has an emergency back-up plan and a desire to see a more wide-open offense because I watch football for aesthetics and enjoyment factor as much as I watch it to see my team win.

In the end, they figured out a way to do both. Again, it was awesome.
Last Edited: 1/3/2019 2:58:10 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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BillyTheCat
1/3/2019 11:27 PM
Chad E Guess D.C. wrote:expand_more
Grass is always greener on the other side....


I am grateful for what we have.
Exactly, and Tim is a first class person and a very good football coach.
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Bobcatzblitz
1/4/2019 1:17 AM
Tim Albin is a GREAT HUMAN as much as we get frustrated at times with the seemingly up and down hot and cold streaks TIM ALBIN is an excellent person and more than good OC/RB Coach.
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L.C.
1/4/2019 11:14 AM
If you visit sports boards for almost any team, you will find animosity towards the OC. The fact is that not every play is going to work. Sometimes there will be mistakes by offensive players, sometimes great plays by defensive players, sometimes there will be a good defensive call, and sometimes a poor offensive choice. Regardless of the reason a play doesn't work, the OC tends to get the blame if it happens at a critical time. They certainly can deserve blame at times, but they don't deserve all the blame, all the time.

In my mind, Albin has always been a decent OC, and in recent years, he's gotten much better. You see the improvement in lots of areas, like red zone efficiency, or 3rd down efficiency, or percentage of successful plays on first down.
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Gman
1/4/2019 3:31 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Congrats Tim! Do I recall a "Fire Tim Albin" thread?
Congrats on the award.....But Tim Albin is the Marvin Lewis of the MAC, He'll get you close, but has failed to win the MAC Championship or just miss out winning the East Div. remember the 20 to 0 lead he blew in our last MAC Championship game ? In Albin's 14 years at Ohio he HAS COST Ohio games every year of his tenure by his inconsistent play calling, Cincy game this year, I'm sure Tim is a nice guy but just because you win an award doesn't make up for past 14 years of inconsistent play calling. Our Bowl win this year was the first time that Albin put together a complete game calling plays in a while, fingers crossed it continues, but I'm not holding my breath.
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BryanHall
1/4/2019 4:35 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
Congrats Tim! Do I recall a "Fire Tim Albin" thread?
Congrats on the award.....But Tim Albin is the Marvin Lewis of the MAC, He'll get you close, but has failed to win the MAC Championship or just miss out winning the East Div. remember the 20 to 0 lead he blew in our last MAC Championship game ? In Albin's 14 years at Ohio he HAS COST Ohio games every year of his tenure by his inconsistent play calling, Cincy game this year, I'm sure Tim is a nice guy but just because you win an award doesn't make up for past 14 years of inconsistent play calling. Our Bowl win this year was the first time that Albin put together a complete game calling plays in a while, fingers crossed it continues, but I'm not holding my breath.
I was at that game in Detroit. It never crossed my mind that Albin was the problem that day. While I think he is winning this award based on the performance of the offensive line, I think that saying he has cost the team games every is really stretching it.
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Gman
1/4/2019 9:04 PM
BryanHall wrote:expand_more
Congrats Tim! Do I recall a "Fire Tim Albin" thread?
Congrats on the award.....But Tim Albin is the Marvin Lewis of the MAC, He'll get you close, but has failed to win the MAC Championship or just miss out winning the East Div. remember the 20 to 0 lead he blew in our last MAC Championship game ? In Albin's 14 years at Ohio he HAS COST Ohio games every year of his tenure by his inconsistent play calling, Cincy game this year, I'm sure Tim is a nice guy but just because you win an award doesn't make up for past 14 years of inconsistent play calling. Our Bowl win this year was the first time that Albin put together a complete game calling plays in a while, fingers crossed it continues, but I'm not holding my breath.
I was at that game in Detroit. It never crossed my mind that Albin was the problem that day. While I think he is winning this award based on the performance of the offensive line, I think that saying he has cost the team games every is really stretching it.
The game in Detroit, typical Albin fashion, put your foot on their throat get a 20 to 0 lead at halftime, then get conservative not to lose the lead, instead of keep doing the things that got you the lead, that's Tim Albin's play calling for 14 years, Then some games Offense would get off to a slow start and we get behind, then he puts the foot on the throat and we pull it out, It is NOT a stretch to say his play calling has cost Ohio games, He can't seem to put 4 quarters together, but like I said, bless his heart he did it in our Bowl game this year.
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BillyTheCat
1/5/2019 10:51 AM
Wow, blow a 20-0 lead and it’s the fault of the offense??? The IQ of football on this bored is mind boggling, we have fans that complain about the offense when they score 35 points and lose. 🤦🏼‍♂️
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Gman
1/5/2019 12:40 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Wow, blow a 20-0 lead and it’s the fault of the offense??? The IQ of football on this bored is mind boggling, we have fans that complain about the offense when they score 35 points and lose. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Wanna make a wager Billy that I know more about Ohio Football and Football games than you ? and I've even had 3 strokes with short term memory, put up or shut up ! But what about scoring 7 points in a half against Miami, Northern Illinois and Kent St. this year ? Ohio lost 2 out of the 3 but luckily beat Kent by 1 27 to 26, Ohio might of averaged 41 points a game for the season, but they didn't score 41 against Miami or NIU if they had Ohio would of won, so the 41 points a game is bogus, As I have said time and time again, our OC Tim Albin can NOT put together 4 quarters of play calling together for a season, You can go back to all 14 years since he's been here and see for yourself, I gave you examples of 3 games this year. but like I said before he did in our Bowl game this year so Kudo's to him !
Last Edited: 1/5/2019 12:43:22 PM by Gman
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BillyTheCat
1/6/2019 6:26 AM
Gman wrote:expand_more
Wow, blow a 20-0 lead and it’s the fault of the offense??? The IQ of football on this bored is mind boggling, we have fans that complain about the offense when they score 35 points and lose. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Wanna make a wager Billy that I know more about Ohio Football and Football games than you ? and I've even had 3 strokes with short term memory, put up or shut up ! But what about scoring 7 points in a half against Miami, Northern Illinois and Kent St. this year ? Ohio lost 2 out of the 3 but luckily beat Kent by 1 27 to 26, Ohio might of averaged 41 points a game for the season, but they didn't score 41 against Miami or NIU if they had Ohio would of won, so the 41 points a game is bogus, As I have said time and time again, our OC Tim Albin can NOT put together 4 quarters of play calling together for a season, You can go back to all 14 years since he's been here and see for yourself, I gave you examples of 3 games this year. but like I said before he did in our Bowl game this year so Kudo's to him !
I’d hate to take your disability check
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Gman
1/6/2019 12:47 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Wow, blow a 20-0 lead and it’s the fault of the offense??? The IQ of football on this bored is mind boggling, we have fans that complain about the offense when they score 35 points and lose. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Wanna make a wager Billy that I know more about Ohio Football and Football games than you ? and I've even had 3 strokes with short term memory, put up or shut up ! But what about scoring 7 points in a half against Miami, Northern Illinois and Kent St. this year ? Ohio lost 2 out of the 3 but luckily beat Kent by 1 27 to 26, Ohio might of averaged 41 points a game for the season, but they didn't score 41 against Miami or NIU if they had Ohio would of won, so the 41 points a game is bogus, As I have said time and time again, our OC Tim Albin can NOT put together 4 quarters of play calling together for a season, You can go back to all 14 years since he's been here and see for yourself, I gave you examples of 3 games this year. but like I said before he did in our Bowl game this year so Kudo's to him !
I’d hate to take your disability check
For starters, I'm not on disability, I'm just an ole Country Hick that knows how to make money and retire at 56, that's been following Ohio Bobcat sports a long long time, not many here can say they watched an Ohio Basketball game as a kid in Grover Center, well I can, and as the ole saying goes " Put up or Shut the Hell Up"
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bobcatsquared
1/6/2019 1:02 PM
My money's on Gman. Any takers?
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BillyTheCat
1/6/2019 9:45 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
Wow, blow a 20-0 lead and it’s the fault of the offense??? The IQ of football on this bored is mind boggling, we have fans that complain about the offense when they score 35 points and lose. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Wanna make a wager Billy that I know more about Ohio Football and Football games than you ? and I've even had 3 strokes with short term memory, put up or shut up ! But what about scoring 7 points in a half against Miami, Northern Illinois and Kent St. this year ? Ohio lost 2 out of the 3 but luckily beat Kent by 1 27 to 26, Ohio might of averaged 41 points a game for the season, but they didn't score 41 against Miami or NIU if they had Ohio would of won, so the 41 points a game is bogus, As I have said time and time again, our OC Tim Albin can NOT put together 4 quarters of play calling together for a season, You can go back to all 14 years since he's been here and see for yourself, I gave you examples of 3 games this year. but like I said before he did in our Bowl game this year so Kudo's to him !
I’d hate to take your disability check
For starters, I'm not on disability, I'm just an ole Country Hick that knows how to make money and retire at 56, that's been following Ohio Bobcat sports a long long time, not many here can say they watched an Ohio Basketball game as a kid in Grover Center, well I can, and as the ole saying goes " Put up or Shut the Hell Up"
So based on being old, you and OCF are the encyclopedia of all things Ohio because you saw games at Grover. Got it! I apologize, I never realized buying tickets to the game made one an expert.
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Gman
1/6/2019 10:40 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Wow, blow a 20-0 lead and it’s the fault of the offense??? The IQ of football on this bored is mind boggling, we have fans that complain about the offense when they score 35 points and lose. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Wanna make a wager Billy that I know more about Ohio Football and Football games than you ? and I've even had 3 strokes with short term memory, put up or shut up ! But what about scoring 7 points in a half against Miami, Northern Illinois and Kent St. this year ? Ohio lost 2 out of the 3 but luckily beat Kent by 1 27 to 26, Ohio might of averaged 41 points a game for the season, but they didn't score 41 against Miami or NIU if they had Ohio would of won, so the 41 points a game is bogus, As I have said time and time again, our OC Tim Albin can NOT put together 4 quarters of play calling together for a season, You can go back to all 14 years since he's been here and see for yourself, I gave you examples of 3 games this year. but like I said before he did in our Bowl game this year so Kudo's to him !
I’d hate to take your disability check
For starters, I'm not on disability, I'm just an ole Country Hick that knows how to make money and retire at 56, that's been following Ohio Bobcat sports a long long time, not many here can say they watched an Ohio Basketball game as a kid in Grover Center, well I can, and as the ole saying goes " Put up or Shut the Hell Up"
So based on being old, you and OCF are the encyclopedia of all things Ohio because you saw games at Grover. Got it! I apologize, I never realized buying tickets to the game made one an expert.
What makes you an expert ? because you post on a message board and go to a couple games ? I been to lots and lots of games and events at Ohio, also on the road in my lifetime, I've spent time with a lot of the players off the court that played for Ohio, both Basketball, Football also Woman's Basketball and Volleyball along with their families, still friends with a lot of them today, Even tho I am NOT an Ohio Grad, I know the Sports HISTORY here at Ohio, I've lived it and watched it happen. When you live only a few miles away from campus, you can attend a lot of games both Men's & Woman's and I did that, people on here that know me and the players that I have met over the years can vouch for that. But you did impress me BillytheCat by spelling Encyclopedia but then again.... you probably Googled it.
Last Edited: 1/6/2019 10:42:16 PM by Gman
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