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Buck.Cat
3/19/2019 8:29 PM
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26309456/...

As it is mentioned in the video, I would say the Pandora's box is now wide open for free agency of college quarterbacks and I'm totally in favor of it. This is going to continue to have an impact on the recruitment of quarterbacks as it encourages teams to recruit the best quarterback every year. The main concern of this ruling is top quarterbacks will continue to congregate in the Power 5 conferences through both high school recruits and grad transfers.
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rpbobcat
3/20/2019 6:42 AM
I was reading about the NCAA granting the transfer waiver for immediate eligibility for football and basketball.

It seems like the criteria is,to be polite,subjective.

I also saw an article that an NCAA committee is looking into the whole transfer waiver process.
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OUcats82
3/20/2019 9:21 AM
A lot of these players are making pretty large decisions when they are 16-18 years old. While I'd like to think they have wise counsel from parents, coaches etc. there are a lot of factors that go into deciding which school to play for. You are committing 4 years of your life based on a handful of visits and some phone calls/text messages etc. Once you get there and live life, it may not be the best fit.

Obviously a player needs to have a certain level of talent to be offered by a big time winning school (OSU, Clemson, etc.) but they are sometimes one of several upper tier talents that are brought to, and, stockpiled on campus. There are only 12-ish games and one ball to go around.

While the allure of playing at say Alabama is strong, some players may arrive and see a Tua and realize they won't see the field that much. Could they transfer to say Kansas State or Wake Forest and be QB1? For a lot of players, being a starter and perhaps a star at an upstart program may be more enticing that holding a clipboard and mop up duty. The window for playing is small so I don't blame them for wanting to maximize it (and to showcase talent for a possible pro career).

I do think that the process does need regulation but I also think that some revision to the current system is necessary, too. I do applaud those young men who stick it out in the current arrangement and end up walking away from college football with multiple degrees from multiple schools.
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bobcatsquared
3/20/2019 10:52 AM
Tate Martell just granted immediate eligibility at Miami-Fla. No evidence I'm aware of, but I'd submit that the P5 schools are more likely to benefit from immediate eligibility than others.
Last Edited: 3/20/2019 10:52:52 AM by bobcatsquared
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Kevin Finnegan
3/20/2019 11:36 AM
The athlete is really gaining a lot of control now, which I think is a good thing. They can now play up to four games and still redshirt, they can transfer a little easier, and they are encouraged to graduate to be a grad transfer as a guarantee for playing. Yes, this probably helps the larger schools, but it also definitely helps the players.
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rpbobcat
3/20/2019 11:57 AM
finnOhio wrote:expand_more
The athlete is really gaining a lot of control now, which I think is a good thing. They can now play up to four games and still redshirt, they can transfer a little easier, and they are encouraged to graduate to be a grad transfer as a guarantee for playing. Yes, this probably helps the larger schools, but it also definitely helps the players.
From what I've read,the NCAA is looking into changing the Grad Transfer Rule.
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L.C.
3/20/2019 1:01 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Tate Martell just granted immediate eligibility at Miami-Fla. No evidence I'm aware of, but I'd submit that the P5 schools are more likely to benefit from immediate eligibility than others.

It might, yet we've seen transfers in both directions. We've seen players who were backups at P5 schools transfer to the MAC, and we've seen players from the MAC transfer up to P5. It's not all that clear, yet, that P5 will benefit at the expense of G5, or vice versa.

I'd say that the strength and desirability of academic programs will also play a part. In most cases, the player transferring may be looking for a route to the NFL, but in other cases they may realize that the NFL may not be their future, so they may be using sports to get an education that they think will be beneficial to their future. Some of the graduate transfers that Ohio has seen were clearly looking to get into the Sports Management program.

We'll just have to wait and see how it works out.
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OhioCatFan
3/20/2019 1:05 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
The athlete is really gaining a lot of control now, which I think is a good thing. They can now play up to four games and still redshirt, they can transfer a little easier, and they are encouraged to graduate to be a grad transfer as a guarantee for playing. Yes, this probably helps the larger schools, but it also definitely helps the players.
From what I've read,the NCAA is looking into changing the Grad Transfer Rule.
They been saying that now for several years. I read somewhere that the coaches like the current rule, but that the NCAA bureaucracy would like to do away with it entirely. Some want to tighten up the eligibility requirements for it. I'm not sure exactly what that means. Perhaps, dinging the new school's APR if said transfer never actually receives his master's degree.
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rpbobcat
3/20/2019 1:05 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Tate Martell just granted immediate eligibility at Miami-Fla. No evidence I'm aware of, but I'd submit that the P5 schools are more likely to benefit from immediate eligibility than others.

It might, yet we've seen transfers in both directions. We've seen players who were backups at P5 schools transfer to the MAC, and we've seen players from the MAC transfer up to P5. It's not all that clear, yet, that P5 will benefit at the expense of G5, or vice versa.

I'd say that the strength and desirability of academic programs will also play a part. In most cases, the player transferring may be looking for a route to the NFL, but in other cases they may realize that the NFL may not be their future, so they may be using sports to get an education that they think will be beneficial to their future. Some of the graduate transfers that Ohio has seen were clearly looking to get into the Sports Management program.

We'll just have to wait and see how it works out.
It would be interesting to see how many Grad Transfers actually complete a graduate degree.
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