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MonroeClassmate
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Posted: 9/16/2025 9:40 PM
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When will 3-0 Rutgers get ranked in the top 25?

Here is their schedule before they play the Buckeyes. Let's say they beat Minnesota, Washington, lose to Oregon but cover the spread, then take down Purdue, ranked Illinois and then Maryland before they go to Columbus. What will they be ranked at that point?

And if that scenario plays out, when would the MAC perfect Bobcats enter the top 25?

Would WVU after beating Pitt need to keep winning for the Bobcats to look legit nationally and get votes?
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Posted: 9/16/2025 11:06 PM
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MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
When will 3-0 Rutgers get ranked in the top 25?

Here is their schedule before they play the Buckeyes. Let's say they beat Minnesota, Washington, lose to Oregon but cover the spread, then take down Purdue, ranked Illinois and then Maryland before they go to Columbus. What will they be ranked at that point?

And if that scenario plays out, when would the MAC perfect Bobcats enter the top 25?

Would WVU after beating Pitt need to keep winning for the Bobcats to look legit nationally and get votes?
Looking at the AP poll Rutgers doesn't even have a vote. They would have to pick up a vote at the expense of another team. At 8-1 they will be ranked in the Top 20. Ohio at 8-2 starts earning some votes.

Finishing 12-2 at the end of the season 23rd but it depends on who Ohio matches with in a bowl game. For example defeating a 10-2 Boise State in the Arizona Bowl can turn some heads. Another possible is playing a 10-2 South Florida team in Boca Raton should they not snatch the playoff bid.

WVU to keep winning will help. Big 12 has 3 in the Top 20 and another 4 receiving votes so they do have opportunities.

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/rankings/ap-t...
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Posted: 9/17/2025 12:47 AM
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All this talk about winning out seems overly optimistic. First of all we’ve never done it in my lifetime and I’m old. What we have done, even in good years, is have at least one let-down game. It’s fun to fantasize but it is more likely that we’re not done losing.
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Posted: 9/17/2025 6:59 AM
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berniebobcat wrote:expand_more
All this talk about winning out seems overly optimistic. First of all we’ve never done it in my lifetime and I’m old. What we have done, even in good years, is have at least one let-down game. It’s fun to fantasize but it is more likely that we’re not done losing.
To sound like Lumburg from Office Space:

"Ummm, yeah, I'm just not sure I agree with your prediction there"

We don't play Toledo in the regular season and Fiami plays in Athens, so according to team rankings . com, we are favored in all remaining games with the Buffalo game the only one really competitive. Could we lose that Buffalo game at home in front of a mostly empty Thanksgiving break stadium? Not impossible but just as we didn't win the MAC in football since before Woodstock, all streaks must eventually come to an end.
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Posted: 9/17/2025 8:12 AM
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berniebobcat wrote:expand_more
All this talk about winning out seems overly optimistic. First of all we’ve never done it in my lifetime and I’m old. What we have done, even in good years, is have at least one let-down game. It’s fun to fantasize but it is more likely that we’re not done losing.
Nailed it. It feels almost inevitable that we will lose a MAC game, now that everyone is counting on us winning out. That isn't how things go in the MAC.
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Posted: 9/17/2025 9:09 AM
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greencat wrote:expand_more
All this talk about winning out seems overly optimistic. First of all we’ve never done it in my lifetime and I’m old. What we have done, even in good years, is have at least one let-down game. It’s fun to fantasize but it is more likely that we’re not done losing.
To sound like Lumburg from Office Space:

"Ummm, yeah, I'm just not sure I agree with your prediction there"

We don't play Toledo in the regular season and Fiami plays in Athens, so according to team rankings . com, we are favored in all remaining games with the Buffalo game the only one really competitive. Could we lose that Buffalo game at home in front of a mostly empty Thanksgiving break stadium? Not impossible but just as we didn't win the MAC in football since before Woodstock, all streaks must eventually come to an end.
Teamrankings has us favored in every game. As I say every year that doesn't mean that a team is likely to win out. I was surprised to see that it was as high as 31.7 % based on their ratings. Their toughest game is @Buffalo, which seemed to be the case for us in just about every ranking system last week. That is up to a 66% win chance for us. It improved based on Buffalo struggling last week. 2ns toughest is @WMU 79%

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/ohio-b...

Massey has us favored in them all. The toughest is Buffalo at 73% and WMU at 75%. He gives us a 11% chance to win out.

https://masseyratings.com/cf2025/5825
https://masseyratings.com/simseason?t=5825&s=627248

This nice little graphic by Kelly Ford has us favored in every game. Buffalo at 66% and WMU 2nd again at 76%. He gives us a 20% chance to run the table.

https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/1568e90d-5220-4859-b2eb-...

Computer rankings still temper themselves with preseason expectations significantly at this point. They aren't just unbiased outputs based only on game data because there isn't much game data. The percentages for each game look fairly close between then anyway. But when you are multiplying 9 fractions together small differences make a pretty big difference. Anyway, they seem to agree that it is well within the realm of possibility but not likely.
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Posted: 9/17/2025 9:26 AM
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Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
All this talk about winning out seems overly optimistic. First of all we’ve never done it in my lifetime and I’m old. What we have done, even in good years, is have at least one let-down game. It’s fun to fantasize but it is more likely that we’re not done losing.
Nailed it. It feels almost inevitable that we will lose a MAC game, now that everyone is counting on us winning out. That isn't how things go in the MAC.
Maybe if we started blasting MAC teams we would start garnering some votes here or there, but I agree... we're likely gonna drop one. It won't make sense. Nothing will be working. It'll happen vs WMU or something where we should win by 20 and we'll be pissed, but it's so difficult for any team, in any conference to win all their conference games, especially in the MAC when you start factoring in Tuesday games around Thanksgiving. Short weeks, Cold weather, sparse crowds. Teams start turning into 2000's Texas Tech out of nowhere.

Think we have a GREAT shot at running the table, but I think we drop one - and still make the MACC.
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Posted: 9/17/2025 9:44 AM
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berniebobcat wrote:expand_more
All this talk about winning out seems overly optimistic. First of all we’ve never done it in my lifetime and I’m old. What we have done, even in good years, is have at least one let-down game. It’s fun to fantasize but it is more likely that we’re not done losing.
Sorry to say, but you’re likely spot on. One game at a time.
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Posted: 9/17/2025 7:01 PM
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IF Rutgers beats Iowa at home this Friday on Fox Sports they'll be in the Top 25 I would predict, probably at #25. B1G teams don't have to do too much to get into the rankings, another loss and they probably fall way out.
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Posted: 9/18/2025 9:39 AM
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berniebobcat wrote:expand_more
All this talk about winning out seems overly optimistic. First of all we’ve never done it in my lifetime and I’m old. What we have done, even in good years, is have at least one let-down game. It’s fun to fantasize but it is more likely that we’re not done losing.
I'd like to believe that the annual let-down/collapse game was a function of Frank's leadership. Somehow our teams always seemed to get complacent at the worst time. I'm trusting the culture has advanced beyond that, as seen last year.
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Posted: 9/20/2025 9:53 PM
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Well Rutgers went down in defeat to Iowa and WVU got curb stomped by the JayHawks. Thus not looking good for any ranking for OHIO if it happens at all will not likely be during the regular season.
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