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MonroeClassmate
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Posted: 10/13/2019 8:24 AM
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Let's see:

Time to go with the odds that the game will result in a loss. Therefore:

Don't spend the night before in a hotel, save the money

Let the boys do whatever they choose the night before, give them the freedom to choose what's best for them and the team.

Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want AND

BRING BACK THE PROPHET MONROE, HE WAS PREACHING THE GOSPEL AND FEW OF YOU WOULD LISTEN.
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Posted: 10/13/2019 12:04 PM
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MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
Let's see:

Time to go with the odds that the game will result in a loss. Therefore:

Don't spend the night before in a hotel, save the money

Let the boys do whatever they choose the night before, give them the freedom to choose what's best for them and the team.

Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want AND

BRING BACK THE PROPHET MONROE, HE WAS PREACHING THE GOSPEL AND FEW OF YOU WOULD LISTEN.
I think yesterday was Monroe’s birthday.
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Posted: 10/13/2019 12:07 PM
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Put the parade back on Court Street.

Thursday the 10th was Monroe's birthday.
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Posted: 10/13/2019 12:51 PM
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MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
Let's see:

Time to go with the odds that the game will result in a loss. Therefore:

Don't spend the night before in a hotel, save the money

Let the boys do whatever they choose the night before, give them the freedom to choose what's best for them and the team.

Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want AND

BRING BACK THE PROPHET MONROE, HE WAS PREACHING THE GOSPEL AND FEW OF YOU WOULD LISTEN.
Monroe was the least persuasive person I have ever encountered online. He had the same answer to every question and moved almost nobody to his side. He deserved to be banned solely for rhetorical malpractice.
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Posted: 10/13/2019 1:04 PM
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BryanHall wrote:expand_more
Let's see:

Time to go with the odds that the game will result in a loss. Therefore:

Don't spend the night before in a hotel, save the money

Let the boys do whatever they choose the night before, give them the freedom to choose what's best for them and the team.

Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want AND

BRING BACK THE PROPHET MONROE, HE WAS PREACHING THE GOSPEL AND FEW OF YOU WOULD LISTEN.
Monroe was the least persuasive person I have ever encountered online. He had the same answer to every question and moved almost nobody to his side. He deserved to be banned solely for rhetorical malpractice.
Some would contend that particpation on this board began it's slow decline with his banishment.
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Posted: 10/13/2019 1:29 PM
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Let's see:

Time to go with the odds that the game will result in a loss. Therefore:

Don't spend the night before in a hotel, save the money

Let the boys do whatever they choose the night before, give them the freedom to choose what's best for them and the team.

Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want AND

BRING BACK THE PROPHET MONROE, HE WAS PREACHING THE GOSPEL AND FEW OF YOU WOULD LISTEN.
Monroe was the least persuasive person I have ever encountered online. He had the same answer to every question and moved almost nobody to his side. He deserved to be banned solely for rhetorical malpractice.
Some would contend that particpation on this board began it's slow decline with his banishment.
+1
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Posted: 10/13/2019 1:37 PM
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It began before that partly due to him being around.
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Posted: 10/13/2019 2:10 PM
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Let's see:

Time to go with the odds that the game will result in a loss. Therefore:

Don't spend the night before in a hotel, save the money

Let the boys do whatever they choose the night before, give them the freedom to choose what's best for them and the team.

Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want AND

BRING BACK THE PROPHET MONROE, HE WAS PREACHING THE GOSPEL AND FEW OF YOU WOULD LISTEN.
Monroe was the least persuasive person I have ever encountered online. He had the same answer to every question and moved almost nobody to his side. He deserved to be banned solely for rhetorical malpractice.
Some would contend that particpation on this board began it's slow decline with his banishment.
Do we have metrics on participation to back that up? Assuming there was a decline in participation, how does it correlate to attendance? How does it correlate to the malaise of the era between Tettleton and Rourke?

Your statement also doesn't challenge my key point. Monroe was unconvincing to most, annoyed many people by hijacking every topic with the same theme and eventually got himself banned from the best forum for his message. I'd say that is a prima facie case of rhetorical incompetence.
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Posted: 10/13/2019 2:55 PM
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BryanHall wrote:expand_more
Let's see:

Time to go with the odds that the game will result in a loss. Therefore:

Don't spend the night before in a hotel, save the money

Let the boys do whatever they choose the night before, give them the freedom to choose what's best for them and the team.

Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want AND

BRING BACK THE PROPHET MONROE, HE WAS PREACHING THE GOSPEL AND FEW OF YOU WOULD LISTEN.
Monroe was the least persuasive person I have ever encountered online. He had the same answer to every question and moved almost nobody to his side. He deserved to be banned solely for rhetorical malpractice.




Some would contend that particpation on this board began it's slow decline with his banishment.
Do we have metrics on participation to back that up? Assuming there was a decline in participation, how does it correlate to attendance? How does it correlate to the malaise of the era between Tettleton and Rourke?

Your statement also doesn't challenge my key point. Monroe was unconvincing to most, annoyed many people by hijacking every topic with the same theme and eventually got himself banned from the best forum for his message. I'd say that is a prima facie case of rhetorical incompetence.
I would say we're all pretty much "unconvincing to most", occassionally "annoying" and often guilty of making the same arguments. The only thing left to do is accuse each other of hazing.
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Posted: 10/14/2019 10:19 AM
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Put the parade back on Court Street.
We crapped the bed on homecoming back then too. It is quite a longstanding tradition.
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Posted: 10/14/2019 12:07 PM
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MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
. . .Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want . . .
I'm all for letting the players have greater input into the actual calling of plays. If I could change one rule it would be not allowing coaches to call time outs. It used to be that a player on the field had to call a TO. Of course, sometimes, the coach would signal to a player to do that, but going back to the old rule would stop the silly TO's right before a play is run that half the time hurt the team calling the TO. Several years ago when were were playing Wyoming in Peden, Frank calls a TO just was we make what would be the winning play. After the TO, the play fails and we lose the game. The loss was totally on Frank. I've seen other coaches do the same thing. Let the players take greater control. I'm all for that concept.
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Posted: 10/14/2019 1:11 PM
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OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
. . .Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want . . .
I'm all for letting the players have greater input into the actual calling of plays. If I could change one rule it would be not allowing coaches to call time outs. It used to be that a player on the field had to call a TO. Of course, sometimes, the coach would signal to a player to do that, but going back to the old rule would stop the silly TO's right before a play is run that half the time hurt the team calling the TO. Several years ago when were were playing Wyoming in Peden, Frank calls a TO just was we make what would be the winning play. After the TO, the play fails and we lose the game. The loss was totally on Frank. I've seen other coaches do the same thing. Let the players take greater control. I'm all for that concept.
I remember - too vividly - the end of that Wyoming game. Wyoming was trailing in the closing seconds and threatening. They had 4th and goal. They went for it with a pass that fell incomplete. The crowd leaped from their seats to celebrate.

Then we saw an official waving off the play. At the last instant before the snap, Frank had called time to a sideline official.

Wyoming got a mulligan and completed the pass for the win.
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Posted: 10/14/2019 1:58 PM
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Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
. . .Have the coaches go away on vacation for the whole week and let the players game plan, call their own plays start who they want, call what plays they want . . .
I'm all for letting the players have greater input into the actual calling of plays. If I could change one rule it would be not allowing coaches to call time outs. It used to be that a player on the field had to call a TO. Of course, sometimes, the coach would signal to a player to do that, but going back to the old rule would stop the silly TO's right before a play is run that half the time hurt the team calling the TO. Several years ago when were were playing Wyoming in Peden, Frank calls a TO just was we make what would be the winning play. After the TO, the play fails and we lose the game. The loss was totally on Frank. I've seen other coaches do the same thing. Let the players take greater control. I'm all for that concept.
I remember - too vividly - the end of that Wyoming game. Wyoming was trailing in the closing seconds and threatening. They had 4th and goal. They went for it with a pass that fell incomplete. The crowd leaped from their seats to celebrate.

Then we saw an official waving off the play. At the last instant before the snap, Frank had called time to a sideline official.

Wyoming got a mulligan and completed the pass for the win.
Mike, you got it right. I had it reversed. But, I did remember correctly the key point. Frank's TO cost us the game.
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