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Mark Lembright '85
2/7/2020 11:33 AM
In this downtime for either college or NFL football, I was just curious if anyone's going to watch any XFL games this weekend. I think there's a game on Saturday on ABC.

At least in the beginning it should be interesting. The rules to speed up the game and others sound interesting.
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CatsUp
2/7/2020 11:41 AM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
In this downtime for either college or NFL football, I was just curious if anyone's going to watch any XFL games this weekend. I think there's a game on Saturday on ABC.

At least in the beginning it should be interesting. The rules to speed up the game and others sound interesting.
I’ll probably tune in to ESPN on Sunday to check out our No. 90 for the St. Louis BattleHawks!
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rpbobcat
2/7/2020 1:16 PM
I'm going to check them out.

Some of the league rules look interesting.

Things like:

1.Continuously running game clock,except for last 2 minutes of the half.

2.25 second play clock

3.Two timeouts per half

4.Extra points

5.Double Forward Pass

Not sure about one foot in bounds.

Looks like,combined with a 10 minute half time,it should speed up the game.

One thing I don't intend to do is sit in Met Life stadium on a February or March afternoon.
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OU_Country
2/7/2020 2:25 PM
Until you pointed out that they're on this weekend, I didn't even know they were starting already.
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Mark Lembright '85
2/7/2020 3:18 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Until you pointed out that they're on this weekend, I didn't even know they were starting already.
There's no offseason for football, mister!!

But seriously, we'll see how this goes. At a minimum it seems like the XFL is on better financial footing than the AAF was. I hope it succeeds. Like RPBobcat said though, sitting in some of these games in the Northern part of the country isn't for the faint of heart. If there were a game in Cleveland this weekend you'd be sitting in snow.

I do plan on watching. At least for now. Obviously it's a different story if the Bobcats have a basketball game on TV up here at the same time, as the Bobcats always get top billing!
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rpbobcat
2/7/2020 3:54 PM
There's a NY team.
So the XFL has been getting quite a bit of press coverage in this area.
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ExCat21
2/9/2020 9:35 AM
Oh I love this league!!
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spongeBOB CATpants
2/10/2020 9:24 AM
Watched pretty much every game, some more than others, but overall I enjoyed them. I plan on watching next week as well and i would think many who tuned in are looking forward to week 2.

I really like the sideline coverage. Its really cool how reporters are able to interview players right on the sideline as soon as they come off the field. Coaches too. It really taps into the emotion of the game and gets viewers another look "inside". Now there was a massive F-bomb following a little skirmish and honestly, I hope we get plenty more. Its the XFL after all.

The kickoffs are much better in my opinion and I really think the NFL could make the switch no problem. Its more or less the first offensive play of the drive as opposed to a fair catch 90% of kickoffs. One missed tackle from going taking it to the house and appears to do a great job of limiting injuries.

I think the next step is to start marketing the crap out of the players. My only issue at this point is that I only know maybe 5 players total. It makes it difficult to bet/play daily fantasy if you don't know anything about the rosters. If they can figure out how to connect these guys to the fans, I see some serious potential.
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100%Cat
2/13/2020 9:52 AM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
Watched pretty much every game, some more than others, but overall I enjoyed them. I plan on watching next week as well and i would think many who tuned in are looking forward to week 2.

I really like the sideline coverage. Its really cool how reporters are able to interview players right on the sideline as soon as they come off the field. Coaches too. It really taps into the emotion of the game and gets viewers another look "inside". Now there was a massive F-bomb following a little skirmish and honestly, I hope we get plenty more. Its the XFL after all.

The kickoffs are much better in my opinion and I really think the NFL could make the switch no problem. Its more or less the first offensive play of the drive as opposed to a fair catch 90% of kickoffs. One missed tackle from going taking it to the house and appears to do a great job of limiting injuries.

I think the next step is to start marketing the crap out of the players. My only issue at this point is that I only know maybe 5 players total. It makes it difficult to bet/play daily fantasy if you don't know anything about the rosters. If they can figure out how to connect these guys to the fans, I see some serious potential.
I'll preface this with I didn't watch lat week (too busy). But in the video I saw of the kickoffs, it's definitely different. My question: how can you do an onside kick with that style of kickoff? Or is the onside kick just not an option with the new XFL?
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spongeBOB CATpants
2/13/2020 9:58 AM
100%Cat wrote:expand_more
Watched pretty much every game, some more than others, but overall I enjoyed them. I plan on watching next week as well and i would think many who tuned in are looking forward to week 2.

I really like the sideline coverage. Its really cool how reporters are able to interview players right on the sideline as soon as they come off the field. Coaches too. It really taps into the emotion of the game and gets viewers another look "inside". Now there was a massive F-bomb following a little skirmish and honestly, I hope we get plenty more. Its the XFL after all.

The kickoffs are much better in my opinion and I really think the NFL could make the switch no problem. Its more or less the first offensive play of the drive as opposed to a fair catch 90% of kickoffs. One missed tackle from going taking it to the house and appears to do a great job of limiting injuries.

I think the next step is to start marketing the crap out of the players. My only issue at this point is that I only know maybe 5 players total. It makes it difficult to bet/play daily fantasy if you don't know anything about the rosters. If they can figure out how to connect these guys to the fans, I see some serious potential.
I'll preface this with I didn't watch lat week (too busy). But in the video I saw of the kickoffs, it's definitely different. My question: how can you do an onside kick with that style of kickoff? Or is the onside kick just not an option with the new XFL?
All they have to do is notify the officials and then would line up like a traditional onside kick we see in the No Fun League.
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cbus cat fan
2/13/2020 10:26 AM
I guess my traditionalist nature isn't limited to politics and religion, it also encompasses sports. Major League baseball wants to expand the playoffs and now this XFL Madness. I don't know what's worse, XFL or the Arena League. I actually liked Big Time Wrestling in the 80s because it didn't take itself too seriously, there were good guys and bad guys, lots of humor and stagecraft. Then it had to become sinister and cutting edge. Seems to me the XFL is the 20s version of it, but somehow calls itself football. You can guys can have the drama, I will be watching college basketball.
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100%Cat
2/13/2020 10:29 AM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
Watched pretty much every game, some more than others, but overall I enjoyed them. I plan on watching next week as well and i would think many who tuned in are looking forward to week 2.

I really like the sideline coverage. Its really cool how reporters are able to interview players right on the sideline as soon as they come off the field. Coaches too. It really taps into the emotion of the game and gets viewers another look "inside". Now there was a massive F-bomb following a little skirmish and honestly, I hope we get plenty more. Its the XFL after all.

The kickoffs are much better in my opinion and I really think the NFL could make the switch no problem. Its more or less the first offensive play of the drive as opposed to a fair catch 90% of kickoffs. One missed tackle from going taking it to the house and appears to do a great job of limiting injuries.

I think the next step is to start marketing the crap out of the players. My only issue at this point is that I only know maybe 5 players total. It makes it difficult to bet/play daily fantasy if you don't know anything about the rosters. If they can figure out how to connect these guys to the fans, I see some serious potential.
I'll preface this with I didn't watch lat week (too busy). But in the video I saw of the kickoffs, it's definitely different. My question: how can you do an onside kick with that style of kickoff? Or is the onside kick just not an option with the new XFL?
All they have to do is notify the officials and then would line up like a traditional onside kick we see in the No Fun League.
That's what I was assuming. It kills the idea of a surprise onside, but I guess that works.
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rpbobcat
2/13/2020 11:48 AM
cbus cat fan wrote:expand_more
I guess my traditionalist nature isn't limited to politics and religion, it also encompasses sports. Major League baseball wants to expand the playoffs and now this XFL Madness. I don't know what's worse, XFL or the Arena League. I actually liked Big Time Wrestling in the 80s because it didn't take itself too seriously, there were good guys and bad guys, lots of humor and stagecraft. Then it had to become sinister and cutting edge. Seems to me the XFL is the 20s version of it, but somehow calls itself football. You can guys can have the drama, I will be watching college basketball.
First off,as a high school and college wrestler I hated Professional "Wrestling" until,thanks to New Jersey,they finally admitted it wasn't a "sport" but "entertainment".

Was wondering if you watched any of last week's games ?

To me,except for a couple of different rules,it was just football.
Not like the "original" XFL ,from a few years ago.

Personally,I like the way they do kick offs.
In fact,I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL goes to something similar to reduce
high speed collisions.

I also like the rule for ineligible receiver downfield and the "transparency" with replay reviews.

Only thing, the rule changes,like a running clock didn't do,is speed up the game.

Someone also mentioned on side kicks.
I like what they did in the Pro Bowl this year.
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Mark Lembright '85
2/13/2020 12:34 PM
The XFL rules for extra point(s) pretty much nullifies the need for an onside kick. A team can opt for a 3 point extra point play if they so choose.
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100%Cat
2/13/2020 12:57 PM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
The XFL rules for extra point(s) pretty much nullifies the need for an onside kick. A team can opt for a 3 point extra point play if they so choose.
How does that help them if they are down by 11 with a minute to go? A TD and 3 point play just makes it a closer loss if they can't get the ball back.
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cbus cat fan
2/13/2020 1:11 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
I guess my traditionalist nature isn't limited to politics and religion, it also encompasses sports. Major League baseball wants to expand the playoffs and now this XFL Madness. I don't know what's worse, XFL or the Arena League. I actually liked Big Time Wrestling in the 80s because it didn't take itself too seriously, there were good guys and bad guys, lots of humor and stagecraft. Then it had to become sinister and cutting edge. Seems to me the XFL is the 20s version of it, but somehow calls itself football. You can guys can have the drama, I will be watching college basketball.
First off,as a high school and college wrestler I hated Professional "Wrestling" until,thanks to New Jersey,they finally admitted it wasn't a "sport" but "entertainment".

Was wondering if you watched any of last week's games ?

To me,except for a couple of different rules,it was just football.
Not like the "original" XFL ,from a few years ago.

Personally,I like the way they do kick offs.
In fact,I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL goes to something similar to reduce
high speed collisions.

I also like the rule for ineligible receiver downfield and the "transparency" with replay reviews.

Only thing, the rule changes,like a running clock didn't do,is speed up the game.

Someone also mentioned on side kicks.
I like what they did in the Pro Bowl this year.
Honestly, I haven't watched any of it, I doubt I will. I guess I heard something about a 3 point play and a moving clock and I thought what is with this, it seems they are trying to appeal to our limited attention spans? Can't we just accept the rules we have and play them in their traditional seasons? I just don't get it. The funny thing about 80s style Big Time Wrestling was that it was so ridiculous, you had to laugh. Multiple new teams in the baseball playoffs, arena football and indoor soccer aren't very funny to me. It all seem to be making a mockery of a particular sport that is already great. Why mess around with it?
Last Edited: 2/13/2020 1:12:06 PM by cbus cat fan
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rpbobcat
2/13/2020 3:24 PM
cbus cat fan wrote:expand_more
Honestly, I haven't watched any of it, I doubt I will. I guess I heard something about a 3 point play and a moving clock and I thought what is with this, it seems they are trying to appeal to our limited attention spans? Can't we just accept the rules we have and play them in their traditional seasons? I just don't get it. The funny thing about 80s style Big Time Wrestling was that it was so ridiculous, you had to laugh. Multiple new teams in the baseball playoffs, arena football and indoor soccer aren't very funny to me. It all seem to be making a mockery of a particular sport that is already great. Why mess around with it?
One of the biggest complaints about NFL games is how long they take to play.
The running clock is supposed to help with that.

As I posted,the XFL kick off is a lot safer then the NFL.

Arena football went Chapter 7.So they're gone.

Never knew there was pro indoor soccer.

As far as baseball,I agree about more playoff teams.
Then again, the NFL is considering the same thing.

Pro sports are always changing rules.
2 point conversion,extra point,kick off,touch back have all changed over
time.

I remember the outrage over allowing the three point shot in the NBA and college.

Baseball also recognized the need to speed up the game.

This season every pitcher must pitch to a minimum of 3 batters.

Personally,I don't consider the XFL anymore of a mockery of football,then the old AFL or ABA.
Last Edited: 2/13/2020 4:06:18 PM by rpbobcat
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cbus cat fan
2/13/2020 3:52 PM
RpBobcat, I think the Major Indoor Soccer League went belly up as well. I remember the old ABA from when I was young. I even have some old ABA cards, which reminds me that I will have to check on their value. It seems sports cards haven't gone up much in 30 years, well at least compared to how they boomed in the 80s.

Anyway, I could be wrong but wasn't the ABA competing against the NBA and outside of the 3pt line and the red, white and blue basketball, wasn't everything else pretty much the same? They just located in cities that weren't in the NBA. As as matter of fact, didn't the NBA just recently pay off the Silna brothers to the tune of $500 Million to get out of the crazy 1976 termination agreement that gave the St Louis franchise owners some weird percentage of NBA money "In Perpetuity." I believe this was because their franchise wasn't being absorbed into the NBA? I will have to look that up, but I think there might have been a segment about it in a 30 for 30 show on the ABA-NBA merger. Sorry for rambling, but that is an interesting topic.
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Mark Lembright '85
2/13/2020 7:29 PM
100%Cat wrote:expand_more
The XFL rules for extra point(s) pretty much nullifies the need for an onside kick. A team can opt for a 3 point extra point play if they so choose.
How does that help them if they are down by 11 with a minute to go? A TD and 3 point play just makes it a closer loss if they can't get the ball back.
Touche!
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Mike Johnson
2/13/2020 7:35 PM
cbus cat fan wrote:expand_more
RpBobcat, I think the Major Indoor Soccer League went belly up as well. I remember the old ABA from when I was young. I even have some old ABA cards, which reminds me that I will have to check on their value. It seems sports cards haven't gone up much in 30 years, well at least compared to how they boomed in the 80s.

Anyway, I could be wrong but wasn't the ABA competing against the NBA and outside of the 3pt line and the red, white and blue basketball, wasn't everything else pretty much the same? They just located in cities that weren't in the NBA. As as matter of fact, didn't the NBA just recently pay off the Silna brothers to the tune of $500 Million to get out of the crazy 1976 termination agreement that gave the St Louis franchise owners some weird percentage of NBA money "In Perpetuity." I believe this was because their franchise wasn't being absorbed into the NBA? I will have to look that up, but I think there might have been a segment about it in a 30 for 30 show on the ABA-NBA merger. Sorry for rambling, but that is an interesting topic.
Re Major Indoor Soccer, during the 1980s our family became big fans of the Cleveland Force. Home games were in the Richfield Coliseum and the Force was consistently outdrawing the Cavs. 14,000 or more was common and for home playoff games the Force filled the Coliseum. It was a fast, rugged, thrilling sport.
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Alan Swank
2/13/2020 8:02 PM
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Until you pointed out that they're on this weekend, I didn't even know they were starting already.
Don't feel bad, I didn't either. I'd say most people in America don't either.
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BillyTheCat
2/13/2020 8:37 PM
The ABa competed against the NBA, though not as successful as the AFL, but they did leverage expansion franchises and some adoption of their rules and the flair of the game.
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spongeBOB CATpants
2/14/2020 9:01 AM
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Until you pointed out that they're on this weekend, I didn't even know they were starting already.
Don't feel bad, I didn't either. I'd say most people in America don't either.
Columbus actually had the 3rd biggest audience at 3.5 million viewers.
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rpbobcat
2/14/2020 11:02 AM
There were over 17000 people at Met Life for the NY Guardians game last Sunday.

Not bad for a Sunday in February.
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