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71 BOBCAT
8/4/2020 7:38 AM
Does anyone know when fall practice starts.
I ask this question because the 1st & 2nd games have been cancelled?
Also, there seems to be very little news coming out of Athens on athletics.




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Alan Swank
8/4/2020 9:33 AM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
Does anyone know when fall practice starts.
I ask this question because the 1st & 2nd games have been cancelled?
Also, there seems to be very little news coming out of Athens on athletics.




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I'd bet the fourth game gets cancelled too.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
8/4/2020 9:49 AM
It's hard to see how the university would justify in-person practices while the majority of academic programs are being run remotely through the end of September, at least.
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rpbobcat
8/4/2020 10:28 AM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
Also, there seems to be very little news coming out of Athens on athletics.

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As was pointed out on another thread,so far,"open communication"and transparency don't seem to be our new A.D.'s strongest characteristics.

Also,as Mr.Swank posted on another thread,"little news" is not limited to the
Athletic Department.
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UpSan Bobcat
8/4/2020 10:51 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
It's hard to see how the university would justify in-person practices while the majority of academic programs are being run remotely through the end of September, at least.
Not that it makes sense, but some athletes and students in certain academic programs are being allow on campus during that time.
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Alan Swank
8/4/2020 11:02 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
It's hard to see how the university would justify in-person practices while the majority of academic programs are being run remotely through the end of September, at least.
How about high schools not only having in person practices for all sports but actual games for many while ALL of the students are learning remotely.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
8/4/2020 11:25 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
It's hard to see how the university would justify in-person practices while the majority of academic programs are being run remotely through the end of September, at least.
How about high schools not only having in person practices for all sports but actual games for many while ALL of the students are learning remotely.
That's not a justification. That's an example of somebody else doing something without justification. What justification are high schools using?
Last Edited: 8/4/2020 11:31:22 AM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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IceCat76
8/4/2020 12:35 PM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
I ask this question because the 1st & 2nd games have been cancelled?





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Has the BC game been officially cancelled? Sunday's Boston Globe had an article on BC's schedule and said that the Ohio game is the most likely OOC game to be played. The ACC is allowing one OOC game played in the same state. BC has already had the Holy Cross game cancelled by HC. The other OOC game was to be at Kansas so that won't happen. That leaves the OHIO game, probably playd a week earlier than
originally scheduled. That scenario would fit in the Bobcats's schedule since NCC was cancelled. This all assumes the Bobcats will be allowed to travel.
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Pataskala
8/4/2020 12:50 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
It's hard to see how the university would justify in-person practices while the majority of academic programs are being run remotely through the end of September, at least.
How about high schools not only having in person practices for all sports but actual games for many while ALL of the students are learning remotely.
That's not a justification. That's an example of somebody else doing something without justification. What justification are high schools using?
Colleges can justify it because student athletes need to be ready to go in order to meet the terms of their scholarships, if there's a season.

The "justification" for high schools is that the state government and the state athletic association has okayed some level of practices. From a practical standpoint, it's easier to keep regular tabs on the health of a couple hundred student athletes than a few thousand students. The problem will be whether to allow fans at events. I expect that covid screening of fans will be pretty lax at most high schools.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
8/4/2020 1:32 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
It's hard to see how the university would justify in-person practices while the majority of academic programs are being run remotely through the end of September, at least.
How about high schools not only having in person practices for all sports but actual games for many while ALL of the students are learning remotely.
That's not a justification. That's an example of somebody else doing something without justification. What justification are high schools using?
Colleges can justify it because student athletes need to be ready to go in order to meet the terms of their scholarships, if there's a season.

The "justification" for high schools is that the state government and the state athletic association has okayed some level of practices. From a practical standpoint, it's easier to keep regular tabs on the health of a couple hundred student athletes than a few thousand students. The problem will be whether to allow fans at events. I expect that covid screening of fans will be pretty lax at most high schools.
Let me put it another way: Ohio University -- and universities around the country -- are charging standard tuition rates despite offering only remote learning. With limited resources, and a limited ability to ensure safety for students, the university is going to prioritize ensuring football gets played? Over trying to maximize the number of tuition paying students that get an education that warrants the price tag?
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rpbobcat
8/4/2020 2:16 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Let me put it another way: Ohio University -- and universities around the country -- are charging standard tuition rates despite offering only remote learning. With limited resources, and a limited ability to ensure safety for students, the university is going to prioritize ensuring football gets played? Over trying to maximize the number of tuition paying students that get an education that warrants the price tag?
I've posted that I work with FDU.

Right now the first three weeks will be remote.

After that,they may or may not have in person classes.

We've seen a significant drop in enrollment because of the uncertainty.
The biggest complaint is,charging full tuition for partial or full remote
learning.

Some colleges around here have frozen tuition.
But they are still charging full price for the fall semester,even though they will be 100% remote.

That has resulted in a backlash against the schools.
Again lowering enrollment.

Our students who had to go remote in the Spring have been quite vocal in their dissatisfaction with the quality of their remote experience.

A number of students have said they will take a "gap' year,until they can get back on campus.
Last Edited: 8/4/2020 2:19:33 PM by rpbobcat
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Alan Swank
8/4/2020 4:40 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
It's hard to see how the university would justify in-person practices while the majority of academic programs are being run remotely through the end of September, at least.
How about high schools not only having in person practices for all sports but actual games for many while ALL of the students are learning remotely.
That's not a justification. That's an example of somebody else doing something without justification. What justification are high schools using?
That's a great question. The Gov and Lt Gov shared how valuable co-curricular activities are at 2:00 today but they never said "it's because they are so valuable, that we feel justified in offering them." So far over 40 schools in Ohio have cancelled or postponed fall sports. Maybe it's because they took so much grief on graduations in the fall that they did want to take the grief again.
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