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UpSan Bobcat
8/7/2020 2:08 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1291793006194982914

According to Pete Thamel, a college sports reporter for Yahoo, MAC presidents met yesterday without a conclusion and are meeting again tomorrow. One option is cancelling altogether, but the MAC does not want to be the first conference to do it, afraid they might lose players. Spring football could be an option.
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Alan Swank
8/7/2020 2:36 PM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1291793006194982914

According to Pete Thamel, a college sports reporter for Yahoo, MAC presidents met yesterday without a conclusion and are meeting again tomorrow. One option is cancelling altogether, but the MAC does not want to be the first conference to do it, afraid they might lose players. Spring football could be an option.
There's a lot of "does not want to be the first conference" out there in public school ranks too.
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Bobcat1996
8/7/2020 2:39 PM
Below is how much money MAC schools are missing out on from Big Ten schools. One would think that Ball St. getting less than $1 million from Michigan is ridiculous. This chart doesn't include any lost money from not playing SEC schools. Kent State lost money games with Bama and Kentucky also.


Here's how much money each MAC team is missing out on from the Big Ten, according to USA Today Sports:

Akron: Not impacted

Bowling Green:

at Ohio State (Sept. 5) — $1.2 million

at Illinois (Sept. 12) — $1 million

Buffalo:

at Ohio State (Sept. 19) — $1.8 million

Kent State:

at Penn State (Sept. 5) — $1.5 million

Miami (Ohio): Not impacted

Ohio: Not impacted

Ball State:

at Michigan (Sept. 12) — $975,000

at Indiana (Sept. 19) — $700,000

Central Michigan:

at Nebraska (Sept. 12) — $1.3 million

at Northwestern (Sept. 19) — $850,000

Eastern Michigan: Not impacted

Northern Illinois:

at Maryland (Sept. 12) — Unknown

at Iowa (Sept. 26) — $1.15 million

Toledo:

at Michigan State (Sept. 19) — $1.2 million

Western Michigan: Not impacted

Evan Petzold is a sports reporting intern at the Detroit Free Press. Contact him at epetzold@freepress.com or follow him on Twitter @EvanPetzold.
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SBH
8/7/2020 2:58 PM
Whats the news here? Thats been a consideration for months.
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Kevin Finnegan
8/7/2020 3:44 PM
I find no respect for a group that thinks they know what is best but is afraid to be the first. Be leaders, MAC Presidents. For once, be leaders.
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cc-cat
8/7/2020 5:44 PM
My neighbor is a producer for FoxSports South (they handle ACC football). I asked him the other day what percentage chance is there we have college football this year?

His response: "Zero chance. Probable zero chance it even starts"

FYI1 - also said there is "zero" chance NFL finishes the season.

FYI2 - because of those perceived percentage FoxSports South has laid off most of their producers.

Businesses are adjusting - reading the tea leaves.
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Alan Swank
8/7/2020 6:55 PM
OHSAA is going to a six game season and everyone makes the playoffs.
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Maddog13
8/7/2020 7:01 PM
The MAC is merely part of the tail of the dog that makes up College Football and just happy to be along for the ride. It's the big boys in college football who will decide or, more accurately, seal their fate.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
8/7/2020 8:40 PM
Been saying we wouldn't have a season since May. Hence why I only renewed my tickets at 4 schools this fall with guarantee refunds.
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Bobcat1996
8/7/2020 9:03 PM
The sad thing is if no fall outdoor season, then about zero chance of a winter season that plays mostly indoors.
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Doc Bobcat
8/7/2020 11:15 PM
Spring football might work....but the NFL doesn’t want them playing too many games.
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ZIPsCAT
8/8/2020 6:21 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Been saying we wouldn't have a season since May. Hence why I only renewed my tickets at 4 schools this fall with guarantee refunds.
Agreed. I honestly think anyone who thinks there is going to be a football season isn't paying attention. Though I've always left the door cracked open that there would be a loud, vocal and entitled group of people that will stop at nothing to deny reality of the situation and demand everything back as normal.
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LuckySparrow
8/8/2020 10:14 AM
Season cancelled.
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Pataskala
8/9/2020 3:08 PM
Last night I watched a live broadcast of Super Rugby from New Zealand. It's the equivalent of February down there. Temps were about 40 degrees F. They had real fans in the stands -- a packed house (17,000), sitting shoulder-to-shoulder, without masks. The most covid cases they've had was 89 back on April 4. The government and the people took it seriously and they haven't had more than ten cases at a time since April 18. Their curve has almost flatlined since early May.

Sigh.
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yamaha45701
8/9/2020 11:35 PM
My nephew is there working in a white water kayak and canoe park (olympic quality and they take that sport very seriously) and almost zero anti mask from what I understand. The difference in this country and New Zealand is night and day when it comes to working together to mitigate the virus. Here, it is every man for himself, neighbors be damned if I breathe on them and give them the virus. Oh well.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
8/10/2020 12:03 AM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Last night I watched a live broadcast of Super Rugby from New Zealand. It's the equivalent of February down there. Temps were about 40 degrees F. They had real fans in the stands -- a packed house (17,000), sitting shoulder-to-shoulder, without masks. The most covid cases they've had was 89 back on April 4. The government and the people took it seriously and they haven't had more than ten cases at a time since April 18. Their curve has almost flatlined since early May.

Sigh.
And let's cut to the chase of New Zealand because I'm tired of hearing how they're role models for all of this.

-Population: 5 million people
-International Airports: 2
-Not like there's a boat between New Zealand and Australia because it's 1300 nautical miles away

Plus they are a bloody island in the middle of nowhere essentially.

Tired of the comparison, but it is what it is. We locked down, did what we had to do to get things reopened again. Can't wait to hear the tune of academics change when they have to actually go job hunting because the student body won't come back the way they expect it to and is overbloated. Enjoy Athens the way it is, because that bubble is about to burst and there will be a boatload of hurt down there like you wouldn't imagine.....
Last Edited: 8/10/2020 12:11:38 AM by Buckeye to Bobcat
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Pataskala
8/10/2020 1:25 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Last night I watched a live broadcast of Super Rugby from New Zealand. It's the equivalent of February down there. Temps were about 40 degrees F. They had real fans in the stands -- a packed house (17,000), sitting shoulder-to-shoulder, without masks. The most covid cases they've had was 89 back on April 4. The government and the people took it seriously and they haven't had more than ten cases at a time since April 18. Their curve has almost flatlined since early May.

Sigh.
And let's cut to the chase of New Zealand because I'm tired of hearing how they're role models for all of this.

-Population: 5 million people
-International Airports: 2
-Not like there's a boat between New Zealand and Australia because it's 1300 nautical miles away

Plus they are a bloody island in the middle of nowhere essentially.

Tired of the comparison, but it is what it is. We locked down, did what we had to do to get things reopened again. Can't wait to hear the tune of academics change when they have to actually go job hunting because the student body won't come back the way they expect it to and is overbloated. Enjoy Athens the way it is, because that bubble is about to burst and there will be a boatload of hurt down there like you wouldn't imagine.....
It doesn't matter whether NZ is an island or how many airports they have. The fact is, they did what they needed to do. By contrast, among countries with at least five million population, the US is FOURTH WORST in controlling the pandemic. Only Chile, Kuwait and Panama have higher infection rates per one million population (latest figures from Johns Hopkins). The old adage is "lead, follow or get out of the way." The White House did none of those. They left it up to the states to respond to the pandemic, then criticized the efforts of many states, and used FEMA to buy up or make it more expensive to buy supplies states needed to fight the virus. If the White House had taken this seriously back in March, we probably wouldn't be facing this situation.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
8/10/2020 10:29 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
We locked down, did what we had to do to get things reopened again. Can't wait to hear the tune of academics change when they have to actually go job hunting because the student body won't come back the way they expect it to and is overbloated. Enjoy Athens the way it is, because that bubble is about to burst and there will be a boatload of hurt down there like you wouldn't imagine.....
Nothing like rooting for a bunch of people to lose their jobs and livelihoods because you disagree with them on the level of risk associated with a global pandemic.

The funny thing about this, is that you started with "we. . .did what we had to do to get things reopened again." But we didn't. What we had to do to get things reopened again was show regard for the health and well-being of those around us. To buy into a common purpose and goal. We did none of those things. In fact, largely what we've done is wish ill will on people we disagree with. We put our own myopic, selfish views of what freedom means ('not being told to wear a mask') ahead of the need of the collective. At every step along the way, people fought for their individual needs and prioritized that over the collective good, and our government proved itself incapable of providing safety and security when it was most needed. We proved only that we lacked the collective will to do what was best for the country.

We acted, and are continuing to act, like a failed state. I suspect historians will look back at this moment in time as the moment it became clear to the free world we were no longer their leader. To be clear, that fall has been a longtime coming and is multifaceted -- it's not because of Covid that that's the case. But Covid laid bare the extent to which we've fallen.
Last Edited: 8/10/2020 12:33:09 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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Buckeye to Bobcat
8/10/2020 12:49 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
We locked down, did what we had to do to get things reopened again. Can't wait to hear the tune of academics change when they have to actually go job hunting because the student body won't come back the way they expect it to and is overbloated. Enjoy Athens the way it is, because that bubble is about to burst and there will be a boatload of hurt down there like you wouldn't imagine.....
Nothing like rooting for a bunch of people to lose their jobs and livelihoods because you disagree with them on the level of risk associated with a global pandemic.

The funny thing about this, is that you started with "we. . .did what we had to do to get things reopened again." But we didn't. What we had to do to get things reopened again was show regard for the health and well-being of those around us. To buy into a common purpose and goal. We did none of those things. In fact, largely what we've done is wish ill will on people we disagree with. We put our own myopic, selfish views of what freedom means ('not being told to wear a mask') ahead of the need of the collective. At every step along the way, people fought for their individual needs and prioritized that over the collective good, and our government proved itself incapable of providing safety and security when it was most needed. We proved only that we lacked the collective will to do what was best for the country.

We acted, and are continuing to act, like a failed state. I suspect historians will look back at this moment in time as the moment it became clear to the free world we were no longer their leader. To be clear, that fall has been a longtime coming and is multifaceted -- it's not because of Covid that that's the case. But Covid laid bare the extent to which we've fallen.
Not disagreeing at all. Just frustrated to be honest. Sorry if it sounds like I'm taking it out on folks, heck my business ain't having a ton of fun during this. There's no good way to say what has happened all round and again, not sure what to do at this point.
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