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Bobcatzblitz
7/17/2020 10:33 PM
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great pickup...... he was amazing for UNLV for awhile. and then i don't know what happened. i understand he may have hadaccuracy issues as QB. but i think it's a matter of using him properly

UNLV seems like a layup for a good mid-major football team. maybe even an upgrade to pac 12 if it ever expands..... but they seemingly can never make it work.. is being that close to the las vegas strip seen as a negative by moms?....... it seems bizarre how bad they've been for so long. should be #1 non-BCS conference school for LA recruits IMO

i wouldn't worry about athens, ohio and culture shock etc.... minnesota golden gophers work in tons of HS recruits from florida... you are there to play football and go to class, not lounge by the pool.
Other than the treatment room they actually do lounge by the pools in athens quite a bit
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L.C.
7/17/2020 10:41 PM
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...
Tettleton and Boo did not really improve in accuracy over two to three years as a st.
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Here is how much various QBs improved in QB Efficiency. The numbers in square brackets are seasons with <100 pass attempts.
Under Gdowski:
Everson [107.9], 87.7, 102.0
Bower 119.5 (Illinois), [91.8], 125.7
T3 124.7, [111.5], 128.5
Boo 137.5, [122.0], 136.2
Tettleton {68.5], 148.9, 141.2, 138.8

Under Isphording:
Vick [170.4], [101.3], 130.9, 134.0 (First two years under Gdowski
Sprague [170.1], 99.9, 136.6
Windham [129.9], [98.3], 118.0
Maxwell 131.8, [136.7], [138.3]
Rourke 132.9, 156.0, 150.3

Under Gdowski it appears that the quarterbacks didn't improve a lot. Under Isphording, every QB improved, with the exception of Rourke's Senior season, which wasn't quite as good as his Junior year. I attribute that to the fact that the line wasn't good.

Based on that data, I expect that Rogers will also show improvement.*, **
Armani had a respectable Pass Efficiency of 122.9 as a Freshman. It was down a bit as a Sophomore and Junior, but he didn't play as much. I would expect him to do at least as well as his Freshman year, probably more like 130-140. Here are his highlights from his Freshman year. I could see him having a very good year, comparable to a t3 or Tettleton year.



* - If there is football
** - If he wins the starting job
Last Edited: 7/17/2020 10:55:31 PM by L.C.
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MakeEmDance
7/19/2020 5:45 AM
He has to start right?

Surrounded by underclassman, but only throwing 50% on 350 career attempts.

Lot more snaps than the competition though!
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L.C.
7/19/2020 8:37 AM
Rogers had a QBR in 2017 of 53.4, which would put him in about the middle of the MAC.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr/_/season/2017/g...

QBR factors in running as well as passing. Here are some comparisons to recent Ohio QBs:
2017 Rogers-UNLV 53.4 (32.8 running)

2019 Rourke 75.3 (43.0 running)
2018 Rourke 77.6 (35.8 running)
2017 Rourke 73.5 (47.7 running)
2016 Windham 55.4 (17.1 running)
2015 Vick 50.8 (-1.8 running)
2014 Vick 61.5 (12.4 running); Sprague 29.3 (5.3 running)
2013 Tettleton 55.6 (2.0 running)
2012 Tettleton 59.9 (6.8 running)
2011 Tettleton 60.5 (18.4 running)
2010 Jackson 41.4 (5.0 running)
2009 T3 39.8 (-1.9 running)
2008 Jackson 51.5 (8.5 running)
2007 Bower 29.8 (-5.9 running)
2006 Everson 24.5 (-11.5 running)
2005 Everson 17.6 (-7.9 running)
2004 Hawk 16.1 (-3.8 running)

So, in terms of his running ability, Rogers is right up there with Rourke. In terms of his total contribution as a QB, he's below Rourke, and in the range with Windham, Vick, and Tettleton.
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OhioBobcat
8/8/2020 3:33 PM
You have to wonder if Rogers will now change his mind to come to Ohio with the MAC’s announcement. There’s obviously no football this fall for the MAC and there’s no guarantee they will have a season in the spring either. If other FBS leagues push forward you couldn’t blame him for going to another school to play this year. It would make no sense to transfer to a school as a grad transfer if they don’t even end up playing. Certainly something for him to consider now.
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Bobcatzblitz
9/1/2020 12:11 AM
Mr Rogers is enrolled and with the extra year of eligibility the QB situation should be set..no need to rush Mr Rourke.
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ExCat21
9/9/2020 1:34 PM
Coach Isphording is a QB whisperer. No worries over here from me about Armani. He might be the MAC POY in our style of offense once ball resumes again. We have better line play than UNLV. He will have a little more time to read-op and throw. And with his size and speed....he'll be fine. If he plays smarts and knows when to slide, go out of bounds to live for another down.....that will help his durability. Im excited to him play in our offense next year...with an extra off-season (Covid-19) to digest our playbook and a previous QB whose film he will gobble up.
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Doc Bobcat
9/10/2020 6:08 AM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Coach Isphording is a QB whisperer. No worries over here from me about Armani. He might be the MAC POY in our style of offense once ball resumes again. We have better line play than UNLV. He will have a little more time to read-op and throw. And with his size and speed....he'll be fine. If he plays smarts and knows when to slide, go out of bounds to live for another down.....that will help his durability. Im excited to him play in our offense next year...with an extra off-season (Covid-19) to digest our playbook and a previous QB whose film he will gobble up.
This.
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Doc Bobcat
9/25/2020 9:42 PM
Extra time for Armani to learn the offense. First game Nov. 4.

QB Whisperer Isphording should gave plenty of time to work his magic.
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9/25/2020 11:13 PM
Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Extra time for Armani to learn the offense. First game Nov. 4.

QB Whisperer Isphording should gave plenty of time to work his magic.
+1 You got me excited with your hints here, Doc. And, this year we can all stay at home on those cold winter nights, and not feel the least bit guilty that we are not shivering in Peden Stadium.
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OhioBobcat
9/26/2020 9:35 AM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Coach Isphording is a QB whisperer. No worries over here from me about Armani. He might be the MAC POY in our style of offense once ball resumes again. We have better line play than UNLV. He will have a little more time to read-op and throw. And with his size and speed....he'll be fine. If he plays smarts and knows when to slide, go out of bounds to live for another down.....that will help his durability. Im excited to him play in our offense next year...with an extra off-season (Covid-19) to digest our playbook and a previous QB whose film he will gobble up.
I already expected him to come in and destroy teams right away. I was never concerned about his ability as I remember seeing him play some at UNLV. He has Omar Jacobs type size (might even be bigger) but with much better wheels. My main concerned is his durability. He's often been injured and in this offense, he will be running the ball a lot. My other concern goes back to the 4-year QB's we sign out of high school on the roster in relation to continue recruiting them, retaining them and developing them. Ohio's last QB (Nathan Rourke) was a Juco who had 3 years of eligibility remaining. Most Juco's come in with 2 years but Rourke was a Juco qualifier who had 3 and we saw some departures from guys at the position behind him. Now they have brought in yet another transfer, this time a grad transfer, who originally had only 1 year but because of Covid he will now have 2 years here. This kind of pattern is going to make it difficult to bring in and more importantly, retain the type of QB out of high school that many our peer programs have had and developed. Now I'm not saying bringing in Rourke or Rogers was a mistake. Rourke killed it and I expect Rogers to do the same. But that said, this provides additional hurdles for the 4-year guys being recruited or being groomed behind them here. They aren't competing against other guys in similar situations as they are. It's like they're fighting with college football's version of "free agents" with the transfers. There's a double edged sword in almost anything you try to do, and this is the other side of the approach Ohio has taken at QB here in the last 5 years.
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9/30/2020 3:23 AM
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Coach Isphording is a QB whisperer. No worries over here from me about Armani. He might be the MAC POY in our style of offense once ball resumes again. We have better line play than UNLV. He will have a little more time to read-op and throw. And with his size and speed....he'll be fine. If he plays smarts and knows when to slide, go out of bounds to live for another down.....that will help his durability. Im excited to him play in our offense next year...with an extra off-season (Covid-19) to digest our playbook and a previous QB whose film he will gobble up.
I already expected him to come in and destroy teams right away. I was never concerned about his ability as I remember seeing him play some at UNLV. He has Omar Jacobs type size (might even be bigger) but with much better wheels. My main concerned is his durability. He's often been injured and in this offense, he will be running the ball a lot. My other concern goes back to the 4-year QB's we sign out of high school on the roster in relation to continue recruiting them, retaining them and developing them. Ohio's last QB (Nathan Rourke) was a Juco who had 3 years of eligibility remaining. Most Juco's come in with 2 years but Rourke was a Juco qualifier who had 3 and we saw some departures from guys at the position behind him. Now they have brought in yet another transfer, this time a grad transfer, who originally had only 1 year but because of Covid he will now have 2 years here. This kind of pattern is going to make it difficult to bring in and more importantly, retain the type of QB out of high school that many our peer programs have had and developed. Now I'm not saying bringing in Rourke or Rogers was a mistake. Rourke killed it and I expect Rogers to do the same. But that said, this provides additional hurdles for the 4-year guys being recruited or being groomed behind them here. They aren't competing against other guys in similar situations as they are. It's like they're fighting with college football's version of "free agents" with the transfers. There's a double edged sword in almost anything you try to do, and this is the other side of the approach Ohio has taken at QB here in the last 5 years.

I hear what you are saying. I get it. But word around town is that Baby R is no where near the same as Big R. If that were the case....we wouldn't be looking elsewhere. But Im glad we (the MAC) waited to make sure it is safe for athletes, coaches, training staff, bands, cheerleaders and refs. And GameDay is on my birthday Nov 4th. I cant wait to tune in.
Last Edited: 9/30/2020 3:27:40 AM by ExCat21
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BryanHall
9/30/2020 10:28 AM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Coach Isphording is a QB whisperer. No worries over here from me about Armani. He might be the MAC POY in our style of offense once ball resumes again. We have better line play than UNLV. He will have a little more time to read-op and throw. And with his size and speed....he'll be fine. If he plays smarts and knows when to slide, go out of bounds to live for another down.....that will help his durability. Im excited to him play in our offense next year...with an extra off-season (Covid-19) to digest our playbook and a previous QB whose film he will gobble up.
I already expected him to come in and destroy teams right away. I was never concerned about his ability as I remember seeing him play some at UNLV. He has Omar Jacobs type size (might even be bigger) but with much better wheels. My main concerned is his durability. He's often been injured and in this offense, he will be running the ball a lot. My other concern goes back to the 4-year QB's we sign out of high school on the roster in relation to continue recruiting them, retaining them and developing them. Ohio's last QB (Nathan Rourke) was a Juco who had 3 years of eligibility remaining. Most Juco's come in with 2 years but Rourke was a Juco qualifier who had 3 and we saw some departures from guys at the position behind him. Now they have brought in yet another transfer, this time a grad transfer, who originally had only 1 year but because of Covid he will now have 2 years here. This kind of pattern is going to make it difficult to bring in and more importantly, retain the type of QB out of high school that many our peer programs have had and developed. Now I'm not saying bringing in Rourke or Rogers was a mistake. Rourke killed it and I expect Rogers to do the same. But that said, this provides additional hurdles for the 4-year guys being recruited or being groomed behind them here. They aren't competing against other guys in similar situations as they are. It's like they're fighting with college football's version of "free agents" with the transfers. There's a double edged sword in almost anything you try to do, and this is the other side of the approach Ohio has taken at QB here in the last 5 years.

I hear what you are saying. I get it. But word around town is that Baby R is no where near the same as Big R. If that were the case....we wouldn't be looking elsewhere. But Im glad we (the MAC) waited to make sure it is safe for athletes, coaches, training staff, bands, cheerleaders and refs. And GameDay is on my birthday Nov 4th. I cant wait to tune in.
I don't doubt your contacts about younger R, but they needed another QB for depth. If not Armani, it would've likely been a JUCO guy. Also, if Little R is so much less impressive than big R, why did Mischler and the walk-on transfer at the end of last year. I would think that Mischler would've stuck around to compete for another year.
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9/30/2020 10:33 PM
BryanHall wrote:expand_more
Coach Isphording is a QB whisperer. No worries over here from me about Armani. He might be the MAC POY in our style of offense once ball resumes again. We have better line play than UNLV. He will have a little more time to read-op and throw. And with his size and speed....he'll be fine. If he plays smarts and knows when to slide, go out of bounds to live for another down.....that will help his durability. Im excited to him play in our offense next year...with an extra off-season (Covid-19) to digest our playbook and a previous QB whose film he will gobble up.
I already expected him to come in and destroy teams right away. I was never concerned about his ability as I remember seeing him play some at UNLV. He has Omar Jacobs type size (might even be bigger) but with much better wheels. My main concerned is his durability. He's often been injured and in this offense, he will be running the ball a lot. My other concern goes back to the 4-year QB's we sign out of high school on the roster in relation to continue recruiting them, retaining them and developing them. Ohio's last QB (Nathan Rourke) was a Juco who had 3 years of eligibility remaining. Most Juco's come in with 2 years but Rourke was a Juco qualifier who had 3 and we saw some departures from guys at the position behind him. Now they have brought in yet another transfer, this time a grad transfer, who originally had only 1 year but because of Covid he will now have 2 years here. This kind of pattern is going to make it difficult to bring in and more importantly, retain the type of QB out of high school that many our peer programs have had and developed. Now I'm not saying bringing in Rourke or Rogers was a mistake. Rourke killed it and I expect Rogers to do the same. But that said, this provides additional hurdles for the 4-year guys being recruited or being groomed behind them here. They aren't competing against other guys in similar situations as they are. It's like they're fighting with college football's version of "free agents" with the transfers. There's a double edged sword in almost anything you try to do, and this is the other side of the approach Ohio has taken at QB here in the last 5 years.

I hear what you are saying. I get it. But word around town is that Baby R is no where near the same as Big R. If that were the case....we wouldn't be looking elsewhere. But Im glad we (the MAC) waited to make sure it is safe for athletes, coaches, training staff, bands, cheerleaders and refs. And GameDay is on my birthday Nov 4th. I cant wait to tune in.
I don't doubt your contacts about younger R, but they needed another QB for depth. If not Armani, it would've likely been a JUCO guy. Also, if Little R is so much less impressive than big R, why did Mischler and the walk-on transfer at the end of last year. I would think that Mischler would've stuck around to compete for another year.
First and foremost, I want to disclose that each athlete that dons the Green and White is a true Bobcat. Mischler is a good QB but he won't see the field unless there are QB injuries.

Armani should be the starter with baby Rourke and CJ battling for #2. Neyland Yates will be redshirted to learn the system. So we have 4. I believe Armani and CJ have the ability to run and throw where Rourke will be a straight passer. But that's my opinion.
Last Edited: 9/30/2020 10:35:26 PM by ExCat21
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rpbobcat
10/1/2020 6:42 AM
Today's (10/1) The Post as an interview with Mr.Rogers.

The last question the reporter asks is "Its your last year . . .".

I thought the NCAA was giving all fall athletes an extra year.

Does anyone know what the story is ?
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BryanHall
10/1/2020 8:20 AM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Coach Isphording is a QB whisperer. No worries over here from me about Armani. He might be the MAC POY in our style of offense once ball resumes again. We have better line play than UNLV. He will have a little more time to read-op and throw. And with his size and speed....he'll be fine. If he plays smarts and knows when to slide, go out of bounds to live for another down.....that will help his durability. Im excited to him play in our offense next year...with an extra off-season (Covid-19) to digest our playbook and a previous QB whose film he will gobble up.
I already expected him to come in and destroy teams right away. I was never concerned about his ability as I remember seeing him play some at UNLV. He has Omar Jacobs type size (might even be bigger) but with much better wheels. My main concerned is his durability. He's often been injured and in this offense, he will be running the ball a lot. My other concern goes back to the 4-year QB's we sign out of high school on the roster in relation to continue recruiting them, retaining them and developing them. Ohio's last QB (Nathan Rourke) was a Juco who had 3 years of eligibility remaining. Most Juco's come in with 2 years but Rourke was a Juco qualifier who had 3 and we saw some departures from guys at the position behind him. Now they have brought in yet another transfer, this time a grad transfer, who originally had only 1 year but because of Covid he will now have 2 years here. This kind of pattern is going to make it difficult to bring in and more importantly, retain the type of QB out of high school that many our peer programs have had and developed. Now I'm not saying bringing in Rourke or Rogers was a mistake. Rourke killed it and I expect Rogers to do the same. But that said, this provides additional hurdles for the 4-year guys being recruited or being groomed behind them here. They aren't competing against other guys in similar situations as they are. It's like they're fighting with college football's version of "free agents" with the transfers. There's a double edged sword in almost anything you try to do, and this is the other side of the approach Ohio has taken at QB here in the last 5 years.

I hear what you are saying. I get it. But word around town is that Baby R is no where near the same as Big R. If that were the case....we wouldn't be looking elsewhere. But Im glad we (the MAC) waited to make sure it is safe for athletes, coaches, training staff, bands, cheerleaders and refs. And GameDay is on my birthday Nov 4th. I cant wait to tune in.
I don't doubt your contacts about younger R, but they needed another QB for depth. If not Armani, it would've likely been a JUCO guy. Also, if Little R is so much less impressive than big R, why did Mischler and the walk-on transfer at the end of last year. I would think that Mischler would've stuck around to compete for another year.
First and foremost, I want to disclose that each athlete that dons the Green and White is a true Bobcat. Mischler is a good QB but he won't see the field unless there are QB injuries.

Armani should be the starter with baby Rourke and CJ battling for #2. Neyland Yates will be redshirted to learn the system. So we have 4. I believe Armani and CJ have the ability to run and throw where Rourke will be a straight passer. But that's my opinion.
Mischler and Yates transferred before the bowl game last year. Mischler is at Duquesne. My assumption (at that time) I had was that Rourke was so far ahead of him he wouldn't compete for the starting role in 2020 and behind CJ/Rourke in 2021. If Rourke 2.0 is such a downgrade, I thought that Mischler would have stuck around to compete for another year--Duquesne is Division II so he could be eligible immediately.

As for the current year, I don't know what the eligibility issues are around this year, but I would be hesitant to burn a year of eligibility on CJ if we have depth. If it is a free year, everyone sees the field.
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10/1/2020 12:11 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Today's (10/1) The Post as an interview with Mr.Rogers.

The last question the reporter asks is "Its your last year . . .".

I thought the NCAA was giving all fall athletes an extra year.

Does anyone know what the story is ?
Did a bit of research.

The NCAA has granted an extra year of eligibility to all Fall athletes.

So Mr.Rogers has another year,if he wants it.
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ou79
10/1/2020 2:48 PM
FYI, Duquesne University plays D-I (FCS) football and is a member of the NEC for football. It is not D-II.
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ExCat21
10/1/2020 4:02 PM
Naylan Yates QB - transfer portal.

But we have a Freshman named Kadin Beler from Phoenix Arizona.

https://www.hudl.com/profile/8365836/Kadin-Beler

His HS runs pistol. He seems like a true pocket passer with a little wiggle for read op. But to see a QB play MLB in his school is something else too. He just likes to play and get after it.
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BryanHall
10/1/2020 5:10 PM
ou79 wrote:expand_more
FYI, Duquesne University plays D-I (FCS) football and is a member of the NEC for football. It is not D-II.
My bad--I still remember them as a D-III school in the 80s. The point I made about not having to wait to transfer still applies--I believe.
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BillyTheCat
10/1/2020 9:31 PM
BryanHall wrote:expand_more
Coach Isphording is a QB whisperer. No worries over here from me about Armani. He might be the MAC POY in our style of offense once ball resumes again. We have better line play than UNLV. He will have a little more time to read-op and throw. And with his size and speed....he'll be fine. If he plays smarts and knows when to slide, go out of bounds to live for another down.....that will help his durability. Im excited to him play in our offense next year...with an extra off-season (Covid-19) to digest our playbook and a previous QB whose film he will gobble up.
I already expected him to come in and destroy teams right away. I was never concerned about his ability as I remember seeing him play some at UNLV. He has Omar Jacobs type size (might even be bigger) but with much better wheels. My main concerned is his durability. He's often been injured and in this offense, he will be running the ball a lot. My other concern goes back to the 4-year QB's we sign out of high school on the roster in relation to continue recruiting them, retaining them and developing them. Ohio's last QB (Nathan Rourke) was a Juco who had 3 years of eligibility remaining. Most Juco's come in with 2 years but Rourke was a Juco qualifier who had 3 and we saw some departures from guys at the position behind him. Now they have brought in yet another transfer, this time a grad transfer, who originally had only 1 year but because of Covid he will now have 2 years here. This kind of pattern is going to make it difficult to bring in and more importantly, retain the type of QB out of high school that many our peer programs have had and developed. Now I'm not saying bringing in Rourke or Rogers was a mistake. Rourke killed it and I expect Rogers to do the same. But that said, this provides additional hurdles for the 4-year guys being recruited or being groomed behind them here. They aren't competing against other guys in similar situations as they are. It's like they're fighting with college football's version of "free agents" with the transfers. There's a double edged sword in almost anything you try to do, and this is the other side of the approach Ohio has taken at QB here in the last 5 years.

I hear what you are saying. I get it. But word around town is that Baby R is no where near the same as Big R. If that were the case....we wouldn't be looking elsewhere. But Im glad we (the MAC) waited to make sure it is safe for athletes, coaches, training staff, bands, cheerleaders and refs. And GameDay is on my birthday Nov 4th. I cant wait to tune in.
I don't doubt your contacts about younger R, but they needed another QB for depth. If not Armani, it would've likely been a JUCO guy. Also, if Little R is so much less impressive than big R, why did Mischler and the walk-on transfer at the end of last year. I would think that Mischler would've stuck around to compete for another year.
First and foremost, I want to disclose that each athlete that dons the Green and White is a true Bobcat. Mischler is a good QB but he won't see the field unless there are QB injuries.

Armani should be the starter with baby Rourke and CJ battling for #2. Neyland Yates will be redshirted to learn the system. So we have 4. I believe Armani and CJ have the ability to run and throw where Rourke will be a straight passer. But that's my opinion.
Mischler and Yates transferred before the bowl game last year. Mischler is at Duquesne. My assumption (at that time) I had was that Rourke was so far ahead of him he wouldn't compete for the starting role in 2020 and behind CJ/Rourke in 2021. If Rourke 2.0 is such a downgrade, I thought that Mischler would have stuck around to compete for another year--Duquesne is Division II so he could be eligible immediately.

As for the current year, I don't know what the eligibility issues are around this year, but I would be hesitant to burn a year of eligibility on CJ if we have depth. If it is a free year, everyone sees the field.
🤦🏼‍♂️ Duquesne is NOT Division II 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

And I remember someone saying the younger Rourke is not as good right now as the older Rourke and getting lambasted.
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Kevin Finnegan
10/2/2020 2:22 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
And I remember someone saying the younger Rourke is not as good right now as the older Rourke and getting lambasted. [/QUOTE]Hmmm...like this, maybe?

[QUOTE=BillyTheCat]

(Bangs head against the wall!!!!) Have you been to practices? Charted throws? Seen what is happening? I watch it every day. Kurtis is a better throwing QB than his brother. Which is what I stated originally.
Last Edited: 10/2/2020 2:29:11 PM by Kevin Finnegan
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L.C.
10/2/2020 3:20 PM
Kevin Finnegan wrote:expand_more
And I remember someone saying the younger Rourke is not as good right now as the older Rourke and getting lambasted.
Hmmm...like this, maybe?

(Bangs head against the wall!!!!) Have you been to practices? Charted throws? Seen what is happening? I watch it every day. Kurtis is a better throwing QB than his brother. Which is what I stated originally.

Umm, no. That would be the reverse. Rather than saying that "the younger Rourke is not as good right now as the older Rourke", Billy said that the younger Rourke was better, at least as far as passing accuracy.
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71 BOBCAT
10/2/2020 5:41 PM
The bottom line hear for Curtis, IMO, is if he wasn't good Solich would not have recruited him. PERIOD!





GO BOBCATS
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BillyTheCat
10/3/2020 12:35 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
And I remember someone saying the younger Rourke is not as good right now as the older Rourke and getting lambasted.
Hmmm...like this, maybe?

(Bangs head against the wall!!!!) Have you been to practices? Charted throws? Seen what is happening? I watch it every day. Kurtis is a better throwing QB than his brother. Which is what I stated originally.

Umm, no. That would be the reverse. Rather than saying that "the younger Rourke is not as good right now as the older Rourke", Billy said that the younger Rourke was better, at least as far as passing accuracy.
Thanks LC, makes it even harder when folks try and cherry pick posts and they still get it wrong.
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