I take it they were not for the first two home games?

I was in school from 2000 to 2004 and this was absolutely the case when I was in school, as well, and I'm sorry to see that not much has changed. You think "hey, I got into a top journalism school," and no one tells you that that's just a line on a resume unless you have the self-confidence, know-how, free time/money, and initiative to do a thousand extra things that really don't have anything to do with school proper to even have a hope of doing anything in that career path. I didn't realize how behind I really was until about three years into my four-year stint, too late to change my major. More needed to be done to facilitate getting the skills and experience a kid actually needed to try to get a job, not "go to WOUB for four hours a day and see what happens." Not everyone could do that, on top of their classes and even attempting to enjoy the rest of a normal college experience.

Out of my core broadcast group (say 30-35 people, give or take), I'd say only about a third ever got a paycheck from a media outlet, and out of that third, I believe only three people still work in media in 2021.

I think it’s different because all I ever hear on this board and heard on campus was “OH MY GOD OUR J-SCHOOL! WE’RE SO AWESOME!!!”

Sports Ad. There’s a major that deserves to brag a little. Can’t keep bragging about something you haven’t been relevant in in over 20 years.

100% correct though that students rely on some kind of j-school brand recognition that is completely irrelevant if you don’t have a body of work and a quality body of work.

So, next time you complain about a WOUB presser, here’s two people telling you that the top j-school thing is complete non sense (and once again, no one in athletics is there to edit the thing properly), so using that in your argument of why it should be better is complete BS.

I think news at noon is the class. I think newswatch is still volunteer. I think there are classes that assist newswatch though getting them some packages. Never heard the specifics of it, but WOUB got a pretty nice pay day a few years back so some people are being paid for some amount of their work.

I’ll say another issue is diversification. So many of the students I encountered wanted to be broadcasters. Didn’t want to shoot, didn’t want to edit, but they had several years of some level of broadcasting experience. They’ll never get their foot in a door not being able to shoot and edit. Like I said, I just hate how Scripps relies on this outdated mindset that they’re so good and don’t set their students up for success. They want to be broadcasters? Great! Send them to athletics. We have a crazy amount of stuff they can broadcast. Their solution? WOUB. If a student turns in something sub par? Don’t just give them some BS critique because they’re a student. Give some legit criticism and help. I’ve seen grad students put out some real duds of projects. Their equipment is outdated (similar to what I used in college almost 10 years ago. They don’t have someone legitimately attempting to help them. Exploitative isn’t the word I want to use, but for the amount of programming students give to WOUB, you’d think they’d invest in someone to actually help them.

I get it. You're bitter. Move on.

+1

Now, to get back to the subject at hand. I'm really worried about the game tomorrow. We've had such a bad experience against CMU for almost forever. If we can beat them, I think we could turn the season around, if we lose, I would not be surprised to see us go 1-11. I hate to be overly dramatic about it, but I see this as the preverbal "must win game." If we lose, I'll be ready to ask, "Is it basketball season yet?" If we win, I'll be checking what bowls we might be able to make. Maybe I'm slightly schizophrenic and not in touch with reality, but that's the way I see it. Go OHIO!

+1

+2. Although this conversation should have been in its own thread.

Kicker.

Punting from your own 35 should be a fireable offense

Gatekeepers suck, but my favorite thing about that "You know you went to OU if" Facebook group is the complete lack of clue many of out alumni have towards college sports.

"What channel is the game on Dish?"
"Why isn't this on regular ESPN?"
"How do I buy tickets?"
"Why don't they show the 110 performance?"