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Topic: Official Game 9 Thread: Miami (OH)
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Casper71
11/2/2021 9:58 PM
Big-time momentum change. Question is can any coach give up a 28 zero lead? I think I know one.
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KyleWvr13
11/2/2021 10:02 PM
Oh boy... please don't come back, please don't come back...
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Cats5
11/2/2021 10:08 PM
Just gotta have faith in Ron Collins….
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Casper71
11/2/2021 10:08 PM
Yep, got a love our tackling
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BobcatPride
11/2/2021 10:09 PM
Please take Rourke out. He’s gone cold. Switch it up with Rogers.
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Cats5
11/2/2021 10:12 PM
BobcatPride wrote:expand_more
Please take Rourke out. He’s gone cold. Switch it up with Rogers.
This isn’t it….
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Doc Bobcat
11/2/2021 10:16 PM
Casper71 wrote:expand_more
Big-time momentum change. Question is can any coach give up a 28 zero lead? I think I know one.
Ouch.
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Cats5
11/2/2021 10:19 PM
Ron Collins calling prevent defense the whole third quarter lol gotta love him
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cc-cat
11/2/2021 10:55 PM
OhioBobcat wrote:expand_more
It's been 6 straight years of no MAC team truly wanting to face this program and its showing again tonight!
While I appreciate you think that each year our MAC brethren cycle the Ohio game and declare, "that is the one game I wish we didn't have to play" - I'm curious as to why you are hating on the 2015 team that went 8-5?

Is it because they started a QB from Nebraska? And if you are going to hate on he and others like him, then isn't that an indictment of the midwest in general. I put it to you Ohio Bobcat, since this country was built on the backbone of the men and women of the midwest, isn't this an indictment of the Unites Staes of America? Well you can have whatever warped view you want of Ohio football, but I for one am not going to sit here and watch you hate on the 2015 team and this great country.
Last Edited: 11/2/2021 10:56:30 PM by cc-cat
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Cats5
11/2/2021 11:04 PM
Cats5 wrote:expand_more
Please take Rourke out. He’s gone cold. Switch it up with Rogers.
This isn’t it….
How about now?
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OhioBobcat
11/2/2021 11:07 PM
Ohio continues its downright dominance over Miami! That’s now 12 wins in the last 15 meetings!!!!
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KyleWvr13
11/2/2021 11:28 PM
Welp, it got scary there but not going to complain about a win against our biggest rival.

Defense looked much, much improved over what we've seen the entire season. I wasn't sitting there rolling my eyes at all the missed tackles, hopefully they can keep it up for the rest of the year to recover this poor season.
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Cats5
11/2/2021 11:38 PM
Still gotta watch out for the Ron Collins guy. He called a good game for half the game. Other half was pretty bad to say the least
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Felix
11/2/2021 11:44 PM
Happy to win, but giving up 492 passing yards is concerning!
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Victory
11/2/2021 11:52 PM
I was watching this thread and all of the times various members declared Victory before Miami got back into it again and again. I was thinking how Miami fans would be directed to this thread and just love reading it if they won. I'm sure glad we pulled it out because giving Miami fans that pleasure would have been tough to swallow.

In the first half we had one TO but played generally free of dumb Penalties and undisciplined mistakes. That was far the best half of the year. We made some key plays in the second half. We stopped them on 4th and short time and again. That included a really nice 1 on 1 breakup on a deep shot. Considering that, it tells you how much they dominated the rest on the play in the second half in general if they almost came back from 28 down in spite of the their failings on 4th down. I'm not sure what to make of the whole thing in reassessing what this teams chances in their remaining games. We beat arguably the worst team in FBS in Akron and then barely lost 3 consecutive games to pretty bad teams. Then a great 1st half followed by a terrible and utterly bizarre second half.
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bshot44
11/3/2021 12:11 AM
OhioBobcat wrote:expand_more
COMPLETE @SSWHIPPING TONIGHT!!! Don't ever doubt this team or program! EVER!
1. You are completely INSUFFERABLE

2. They nearly blew a 28pt lead ... is that really an "@SSWHIPPING"?

3. I was wrong ... really didn't think a 1-7 team coming off a bye week would get off the mat & win. Good on them!

P.S. I also didn't account for Chuck Martin to somehow out-Albin Tim Albin. Wow ... those 4th down calls were something! That game was certainly there for the taking for Fiami.

Good for Cats ... a win in what's been a dark couple months.
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Jeff McKinney
11/3/2021 12:17 AM
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This game is far from over. We will go conservative and make it close.
Prophetic
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Pataskala
11/3/2021 12:32 AM
Glad for the win. At least we'll have one win at home this year.

But how many times do we have to give MOFO (or any other team) a chance to beat us in the 4th quarter, especially when we had a 28-pt lead midway through the third quarter. Every time MOFO had the ball in the 4th quarter it was almost a given that they would score quickly. If they had had a kicker that was worth anything we would've lost (blocked FG and a missed extra pt). Their last three drives were 9 plays, 71 yds, 2:24; 5 plays, 95 yds, 0:59; 6 plays, 56 yds, 0:40. If Tuggle hadn't come through we'd be 1-8 now.

Bringing Rogers in just to throw the ball on 3rd and 6 with 4:30 to go after he sat the bench all night in 40-degree weather (or colder) was damn stupid. It was a good play but his arm was cold and it showed.

This thing of trying to draw teams offsides with hard counts just doesn't work anymore. Maybe, just maybe, it's because we don't use hard counts at any other time during the course of a game. Either run a play or punt the ball instead of wasting timeouts.

Other MAC teams scared to play us? Don't think so.
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Ironcat
11/3/2021 10:20 AM
and 400 yrds in 2H alone. I know we are dealing with alot of injuries but 400 yrds passing in a half is horrible......trend past 4 weeks is to play good one half and opposing team makes adjustments and rolls us in 2H
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OhioCatFan
11/3/2021 11:23 AM
I'm extremely happy that we won, but as others have said the coaching on this team still leaves me scratching my head. Prevent-victory-defense for the last quarter and a half of the game? I believe it started after we got the TD in the third quarter that put us up 28-0.

I was informed by a friend who attends practices regularly that this week we'd done a lot of practicing of recovering onside kicks. I will have to say that that was prescient. So, I give credit where credit is due. But I can't understand our defensive strategy. OK, if your up 28 with five minutes to go in the game, the prevent makes some sense, but with a quarter and half to go? And, you have to take into account the kind of QB you are facing. If it's QB who isn't much of a passer, OK, maybe you can get away with using the prevent-style defense a little earlier, but hell, man, that's not Miami.

During that third quarter my wife was yelling, we are going to blow this. This team can't keep a lead. I was the calm one saying, I don't think even this team can blow this big a lead. Toward the end, when they scored that last TD, I wasn't so sure.

Also, in terms of coaching, why didn't Tuggle fall down at the I foot line instead of scoring? Miami would never have gotten the ball back? While I really enjoyed seeing Tuggle score (he's one of my favorite Bobcats), if you are thinking strategically you've coached your players to understand things like this and have situational awareness.

My friend who attends practices tells me that this coaching staff will get it done and that I need to have more patience. Maybe so, but put me in the still skeptical camp. But, I'm willing to be proven wrong, and hope that next week we will win again.
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giacomo
11/3/2021 12:14 PM
Very entertaining game from start to finish. We got to see our alma mater play on TV and see the sights and hear the band! Even if we lose, it was a fun game to see.
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BillyTheCat
11/3/2021 12:30 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Also, in terms of coaching, why didn't Tuggle fall down at the I foot line instead of scoring? Miami would never have gotten the ball back? While I really enjoyed seeing Tuggle score (he's one of my favorite Bobcats), if you are thinking strategically you've coached your players to understand things like this and have situational awareness.
Really, you want to call Tuggle's decision (a poor one), a coaching issue? At the end of the day, they are young people who make decisions despite coaching.
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bobcatsquared
11/3/2021 1:02 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
While I really enjoyed seeing Tuggle score (he's one of my favorite Bobcats), if you are thinking strategically you've coached your players to understand things like this and have situational awareness.
Best part of watching Tuggle scored TDs this season?

While he runs up to and jumps into the arms of a lineman or two (a typical TD celebration), he has TJ Jackson, all 6-7 and 375 pounds, run up to him and jump into Tuggle's grasp (at least that's what they want it to look like).
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cc-cat
11/3/2021 1:11 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Also, in terms of coaching, why didn't Tuggle fall down at the I foot line instead of scoring? Miami would never have gotten the ball back? While I really enjoyed seeing Tuggle score (he's one of my favorite Bobcats), if you are thinking strategically you've coached your players to understand things like this and have situational awareness.
Really, you want to call Tuggle's decision (a poor one), a coaching issue? At the end of the day, they are young people who make decisions despite coaching.
Agree. No one expected Tuggle to break in the clear. The issue with the situation and this team is not Tuggle not falling down at the 1, but the fact we all knew that having a 9 point lead with 90 seconds to play and Miami having no timeouts put Ohio in a precarious position, not put Miami in a dire one.
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OhioCatFan
11/3/2021 1:25 PM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
Also, in terms of coaching, why didn't Tuggle fall down at the I foot line instead of scoring? Miami would never have gotten the ball back. While I really enjoyed seeing Tuggle score (he's one of my favorite Bobcats), if you are thinking strategically you've coached your players to understand things like this and have situational awareness.
Really, you want to call Tuggle's decision (a poor one), a coaching issue? At the end of the day, they are young people who make decisions despite coaching.
Agree. No one expected Tuggle to break in the clear. The issue with the situation and this team is not Tuggle not falling down at the 1, but the fact we all knew that having a 9 point lead with 90 seconds to play and Miami having no timeouts put Ohio in a precarious position, not put Miami in a dire one.
I agree that in the overall scheme this is not a big deal. However, in my mind I'm comparing this with a game I watched earlier in the season (can't remember the teams now), where a player in a similar situation had the situational awareness to fall on the 1 foot line and then have his team run out the clock. In this case we won anyway, but this is just one of those little things that when added to other little things are the mark of a well-coached team.
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