Is that the second tiebreaker to see who goes to Detroit? Or the third tiebreaker?

Does anybody remember the CBA? They gave points to the team that won each quarter. For that reason alone I'm glad that Isiah Thomas ran them into the ground.

Maybe we can get it within one score to keep that streak of MAC losses alive.

I think he is being generous. I think he is the best announcer of the MAC bar none, a great understanding of the conference and the types of teams and players that reside within it. That said, I think unfortunately he is wrong about us.

Frank definitely took us to the point where we can enter the conversation, but c'mon we have not won since 1968. The heartbreaks have piled so many and high during the Solich era however...maybe even one championship (think 2011 with the 20-0 halftime lead over NIU) would have truly established us as a blueblood MAC school. I am of that opinion myself. I believe we need a modern title to complement our past Championships in order to be considered a blueblood program.

But Frank did everything but win the Championship and unfortunately with that long of a streak it is somewhat of a defining attribute. If they would have told me back in sophomore year 2005 what the future would be with Frank I would have still taken it in a heartbeat no matter what, but it ended as a what-could-have-been...

Sitting on a 53 year title drought by definition cannot be a blueblood. Although we are in fact a founding member of the MAC who had great success in the first twenty years of the conference, which does amount to something. Frank gave us 15 years just about as good if not better than what we had back then, with the exception of winning the Championship game (which Hess never had to do to win back then, see the 1967 Championship for instance, a tie in the standings). Undeniably it is more difficult now, but also undeniably we went 0-4 in Detroit in my Lions' stadium. Maybe it was because I always wore my OU jacket and my Lions hat...haha...

We also went about 0-4 in years we should have won the East (2010, 2017, 2018, 2019 come to mind at least), not even making it to the Championship game. Now we are talking 8 years of what-could-have-been. As a poster above stated, especially the 38-10 beatdown of Toledo in 2017 where they ended up winning the MAC, or 2010 when we beat Miami 34-13 and they won the MAC. Cross-divisional, and short week (5 or 6 day MACtion games) games killed Frank's best teams, most of the losses coming by 3 points. There was always a game that we lost which we had no business losing.

Toledo, now I am from Toledo and was the OU class of 2008, so growing up you had these great Toledo teams still active, and the past with Chuck Ealey was before my time, but something that was definitely not forgotten in Toledo, this just great run of success... but they had gone through a huge drought since about 2003, people tend to forget Matt Campbell never even made the title game at Toledo, yet alone won it, neither did Tim Beckman. But they still have 2017 to point at. It provides them a bridge to the team's past that we came so agonizingly close to having ourselves... I do think they are a blueblood even though I am no Rockets fan.

This was a frustrating game on many levels. We had momentum going into this one and a few mistakes, really not many, kept us from winning.

-QB-
Rourke is a great guy, and developing player, but he regressed tonight and Rogers should have taken most of the snaps after Rourke left how many throws 10 feet short? Classic Cats offense. We're having success on the ground but not in the air? We're going to keep passing until it works! And the game slips through our fingers. When will we put Rogers in for one play and have him pass? Maybe next year.

-Strategy-
You can't kick a field goal if you need a touchdown. The missed field goal late in the game was when Albin made the choice that we were going to lose the game. It's like when you're down in a game and choose to punt. Eventually, one of those punts is you choosing to not be able to get back into the game. Sometimes it's the right choice, but not the right one in my opinion last night.

-Execution-
The guys played pretty well last night but the muffed punt hurt the most. I don't feel too bad about our penalties other than the false starts.

-Officiating-
I don't like complaining about refs, but I will complain about the announcers saying that the refs are helping us out (in the 4th). No, the refs are not helping us out. Toledo is helping us out by breaking the rules and getting caught. And since I brought it up, I think the refs finally started calling things that Toledo was doing all night. Toledo's running back had a great night, but there were blatant middle-of-the-field uncalled holds on several of his big runs, and 50/50 PI calls that didn't draw a flag until late in the game. If a guy can't turn around, he's being held.

-Blue Bloods-
Yeah, that was weird phrase to hear 20 times, but yes, we've been a top program in the MAC thanks to Frank. Frank issued in a golden era of Ohio football. The only downside to Frank (in my armchair opinion) is that he didn't foster a pumped up sideline. Oh I'm sure he fostered passionate players, just as long as they kept it to themselves. Sure, they have the sideline gimmicks, but I'd rather have the guys fired up and focused instead of that cold, cold silent and still sideline. You could read the frustration on they guy's faces, you can tell that they were just told to shut up and it's got to hurt to be told you can't express yourself when something good happens.

I love this team, I'm excited about where we're heading with the young players. This will be the season of what-ifs and almosts.

Fire Tim Albin

Based on all the roughing the passer, I’d say Toledo plays dirty

I was ashamed to wear my gear today.

May I suggest ill-fitting, inappropriate clothing. Far less stressful. ;)

If a “Blue blood” is 15 years and zero league titles, I think there needs to be another term for that. Yes he’s the MAC’s winningest coach, he’s also 1 loss from the losingest coach and his record against teams with a winning record is less than impressive.

FWIW, our extremely slim chances of winning the MAC East would have dissolved with Kent's 38-0 win over Akron today, even if we had beaten Toledo. Kent and MOFO are both 5-2 and would be playing for the East title next week anyway.

I'm okay with either one winning, I'd just like to see whichever one that wins the East go on and win the MACC too. The MAC West owned the East this year, going 14-4 in crossover games. Hell, Miami had half of the MAC East wins (vs the West) alone with 2. I'd like to see the East get the last laugh.

I was hoping we kept him in until he completed 2 passes in a row for more than 10yds.