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Posted: 11/19/2025 12:30 PM
In postgame, Smith himself said Parker made poor decisions in the passing game. This isn't controversial. I think there's some reverting to the mean when it comes to key plays. I expect with some extra time for film, it gets better by Buffalo.
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Posted: 11/19/2025 2:18 PM
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In postgame, Smith himself said Parker made poor decisions in the passing game. This isn't controversial. I think there's some reverting to the mean when it comes to key plays. I expect with some extra time for film, it gets better by Buffalo.
And certainly when you're not comfortable going through your progressions... the pouring rain and a wet ball isn't helping.

I put less than zero stock into this game.

Downpour. Soggy field. Two delays. They scored 40. I'll take that injury free W all day long.

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What kind of coach would say well they are giving us the run but we are gonna pass anyway?

Also what kind of athlete is Parker?

Is he a Qb who can run or is he a RB who can throw?

He’s not a pro style stand flat footed 60 yards in the air passer but his intelligence and spin moves and overall field vision make him a decent QB.
Precisely. If they were throwing in the rain we'd be enraged. Instead they almost racked up FOUR HUNDRED YARDS on the ground.

Parker is a limited thrower. He's always been a limited passer. His legs open up the pass. He's got a decent enough arm. His decision-making in the pass game is limited to one read.

As always, you take the good with the bad. He powers the running game. Quite successfully. When teams get nervous they focus too much on him running it and Chase springs open.

I'm not tearing apart the entire car - in week twelve - just because the horn is making a funny noise.
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Posted: 11/19/2025 2:37 PM
There is a lot of questioning Parker’s throwing abilities in this thread and I agree that he has looked worse lately, but I have a couple of thoughts:

1. He threw the ball so much better against good competition at Rutgers and WVU, gotta wonder if there is something physical or mental going on.

2. I would love to hear what somebody who has played or coached the game at a decent level thinks about him as a ball carrier. The way he avoids getting tackled and moves it seems like he could have an opportunity to try and play RB or WR at a higher level.
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Posted: 11/19/2025 5:55 PM
Anybody know who QB3 is? Guessing it's Hype but may have to dip into the portal to have an experienced arm instead a room of newbies. And, of course, 1 or 2 of the current backup QB's will leave.
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Posted: 11/19/2025 6:20 PM
That was a crazy statistic on TV that Ohio is 2nd in the country in turnovers at home the past two years despite the 12-0 record. To think some of this board believe Parker and his 8/19 at WMU is not replaceable are missing something in their logic.
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Posted: 11/19/2025 6:23 PM
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Anybody know who QB3 is? Guessing it's Hype but may have to dip into the portal to have an experienced arm instead a room of newbies. And, of course, 1 or 2 of the current backup QB's will leave.
My guess is the following for next year:

1) We know Navarro is going to the pros for next year.
2) I don't expect Nick Poulos to return if he comes back for one more year.
3) That would leave us with the young Hype Grand, Tim Carpenter with some experience, and incoming commit Levi Davis to battle for the QB1 spot. Basically, back to where we were to start 2024 when it was Navarro vs. CJ Harris.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 9:27 AM
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Anybody know who QB3 is? Guessing it's Hype but may have to dip into the portal to have an experienced arm instead a room of newbies. And, of course, 1 or 2 of the current backup QB's will leave.
My guess is the following for next year:

1) We know Navarro is going to the pros for next year.
2) I don't expect Nick Poulos to return if he comes back for one more year.
3) That would leave us with the young Hype Grand, Tim Carpenter with some experience, and incoming commit Levi Davis to battle for the QB1 spot. Basically, back to where we were to start 2024 when it was Navarro vs. CJ Harris.
I'm not buying the Hype, I expect him to enter the portal. How he ended up in Athens to begin with is beyond me.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 10:06 AM
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College football is in a sad state around here.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/15/sports/gasper-mass... /


More on the UMess story

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/20/sports/umass-footb... /
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Posted: 11/20/2025 10:50 AM
IceCat76 wrote:expand_more
College football is in a sad state around here.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/15/sports/gasper-mass... /


More on the UMess story

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/20/sports/umass-footb... /
This is behind a paywall. Can you provide a short summary?
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Posted: 11/20/2025 3:05 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
College football is in a sad state around here.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/15/sports/gasper-mass... /


More on the UMess story

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/20/sports/umass-footb... /
This is behind a paywall. Can you provide a short summary?
Sorry about that here's some excerpts.

"Its shipwrecked football program is nearing the end of its 15th consecutive losing season, its 0-11 start leaving it ranked last among the 136 Football Bowl Subdivision schools in the country.

It looks as if the ineptitude has caught the attention of school leaders, who say a salvage plan is on the way.

“For the first time ever as a body, we recognize that the resources haven’t been high,” said director of athletics Ryan Bamford, “and that the expectations now that the resources are being built to build a successful program, those expectations grow, the accountability grows, and the urgency grows.”

School leaders believe they have the formula.

⋅ Renovation to McGuirk Stadium, to the tune of $25 million to $30 million.

⋅ Less reliance on the transfer portal system.

⋅ More emphasis on recruiting New England high school players.

⋅ A newly created administrative post in the athletics department to directly oversee the program.

⋅ More investment in name, image, and likeness (NIL).

⋅ Providing enough resources to become a competitive member of the Mid-American Conference.

“Nobody is interested in hearing their excuses anymore, because it has gotten so bad,” said Corey Schneider, co-founder of the now-defunct Midnight Ride Collective. “Nobody is like, ‘Oh, well, you’ve got to cut them some slack, they’re trying to do their best.’ They’re not trying to do their best. This is what not caring looks like.”

The transition has accelerated the drop and produced a dreadful track record:

• Over its 14 FBS seasons, UMass is 26-133, a .164 winning percentage and average of 1.85 wins a season. (Without, obviously, any bowl appearances.)

• Seventeen schools have made the leap to FBS since 2006, including two this season — Missouri State (7-3) and Delaware (5-5 with two games left). UMass is the only one (excluding Delaware) to never post a winning season.

Bamford’s $830,473 salary this year makes him the sixth-highest-paid state employee. Joe Harasymiak, the third head football coach Bamford has hired, comes in at No. 3 at $1.22 million.

Other sports at UMass have generally performed respectably, and sometimes very well, while Bamford has been in charge. The men’s hockey team won the national championship four years ago. The women’s basketball team won the Atlantic 10 championship in 2022.

When Bamford began the job, he said he told then-chancellor Kumble Subbaswamy that the economic and competitive assumptions behind the school’s decisions to join the FBS in 2012 and leave the Mid-American Conference to become an independent after the 2015 season were not sound.

Looking ahead, Bamford said leaving the FBS is not on the table.

He is optimistic that with UMass back in the MAC, the school is ready to take meaningful strides to correct deferred maintenance not only to the stadium, but also the football program that plays in it.

UMass Amherst chancellor Javier Reyes was quick to jump on the telephone to discuss UMass football and Bamford.

More resources are coming football’s way, said Reyes, investments “which are proportional and appropriate to the MAC conference right where we are. We want to be competitive to the MAC.”

“The hockey team was turned around and thrived because of investments we made at that moment,” said Reyes. “That is an important area that we have to remember.”

Maybe reflecting on the success of the men’s hockey team will help UMass football supporters get through the next few years.

Boston Globe 11/20/2025
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Posted: 11/20/2025 3:32 PM
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Anybody know who QB3 is? Guessing it's Hype but may have to dip into the portal to have an experienced arm instead a room of newbies. And, of course, 1 or 2 of the current backup QB's will leave.
My guess is the following for next year:

1) We know Navarro is going to the pros for next year.

Yeah, not sure where this comes from????? Absolutely nothing against Parker or his game, but he's not going pro next year in football. He's had a very good career here, and I applaud that and appreciate what he has given us in his career here.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 4:15 PM
Thanks, IceCat, that's an interesting article.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 4:49 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Anybody know who QB3 is? Guessing it's Hype but may have to dip into the portal to have an experienced arm instead a room of newbies. And, of course, 1 or 2 of the current backup QB's will leave.
My guess is the following for next year:

1) We know Navarro is going to the pros for next year.

Yeah, not sure where this comes from????? Absolutely nothing against Parker or his game, but he's not going pro next year in football. He's had a very good career here, and I applaud that and appreciate what he has given us in his career here.
I only say that because Navarro doesn't have any eligibility left with us. He has to go pro, whether that means the NFL, CFL, or any other league that's considered professional.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 5:21 PM
STVCastle wrote:expand_more
Anybody know who QB3 is? Guessing it's Hype but may have to dip into the portal to have an experienced arm instead a room of newbies. And, of course, 1 or 2 of the current backup QB's will leave.
My guess is the following for next year:

1) We know Navarro is going to the pros for next year.

Yeah, not sure where this comes from????? Absolutely nothing against Parker or his game, but he's not going pro next year in football. He's had a very good career here, and I applaud that and appreciate what he has given us in his career here.
I only say that because Navarro doesn't have any eligibility left with us. He has to go pro, whether that means the NFL, CFL, or any other league that's considered professional.
He can go get a job too. Sorry, I didn’t realize how exactly you meant that.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 5:43 PM
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Anybody know who QB3 is? Guessing it's Hype but may have to dip into the portal to have an experienced arm instead a room of newbies. And, of course, 1 or 2 of the current backup QB's will leave.
My guess is the following for next year:

1) We know Navarro is going to the pros for next year.

Yeah, not sure where this comes from????? Absolutely nothing against Parker or his game, but he's not going pro next year in football. He's had a very good career here, and I applaud that and appreciate what he has given us in his career here.
I only say that because Navarro doesn't have any eligibility left with us. He has to go pro, whether that means the NFL, CFL, or any other league that's considered professional.
He can go get a job too. Sorry, I didn’t realize how exactly you meant that.
Rourke has a better arm, but his success may have opened a door there. Even if he was in a sort of gadget role like that dude from the Saints a while back.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 6:08 PM
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Anybody know who QB3 is? Guessing it's Hype but may have to dip into the portal to have an experienced arm instead a room of newbies. And, of course, 1 or 2 of the current backup QB's will leave.
My guess is the following for next year:

1) We know Navarro is going to the pros for next year.

Yeah, not sure where this comes from????? Absolutely nothing against Parker or his game, but he's not going pro next year in football. He's had a very good career here, and I applaud that and appreciate what he has given us in his career here.
I only say that because Navarro doesn't have any eligibility left with us. He has to go pro, whether that means the NFL, CFL, or any other league that's considered professional.

What position do you see him playing?
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Posted: 11/20/2025 6:21 PM
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What position do you see him playing?
If I had to guess, Navarro will probably have to switch to WR. I've seen many MAC QBs switch to WR at the pro level.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 6:22 PM
He's not going to be a pro. Not sure he's even Penske material.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 6:57 PM
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What position do you see him playing?
If I had to guess, Navarro will probably have to switch to WR. I've seen many MAC QBs switch to WR at the pro level.
While he has probably been as successful here as the Rourke brothers, Kurtis is more of a prototypical NFL QB, and Nathan much more so than Navarro. Navarro excels at Improvisation and not going through progressions. I think if he has any shot at all it would most likely to follow the path of another MAC QB - Josh Cribbs. If he can find a way to use that elusiveness and a good return man, play some on special teams as he did at UCF, become at least a somewhat serviceable receiver, and be an emergency QB, who knows. This is to me a very, very, very long shot.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 8:55 PM
STVCastle wrote:expand_more
What position do you see him playing?
If I had to guess, Navarro will probably have to switch to WR. I've seen many MAC QBs switch to WR at the pro level.
Many? Please define the term “many”.
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Posted: 11/20/2025 10:29 PM
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What position do you see him playing?
If I had to guess, Navarro will probably have to switch to WR. I've seen many MAC QBs switch to WR at the pro level.
Many? Please define the term “many”.
Edelman
Cribbs
Phil Bates
Armani Rogers (TE kinda counts)
The Seahawks threw to Sherman Smith alot

The Bobcats are well represented in the many
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Posted: 11/21/2025 9:12 AM
Parker's ability to evade tacklers is so impressive, as a pro scout I would certainly entertain a tryout to see what kind of hands he has for some type of flex position.
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Posted: 11/21/2025 9:16 AM
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He's not going to be a pro. Not sure he's even Penske material.
Navarro in an IndyCar would be cinema.
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Posted: 11/21/2025 10:59 AM
BryanHall wrote:expand_more
What position do you see him playing?
If I had to guess, Navarro will probably have to switch to WR. I've seen many MAC QBs switch to WR at the pro level.
Many? Please define the term “many”.
Edelman
Cribbs
Phil Bates
Armani Rogers (TE kinda counts)
The Seahawks threw to Sherman Smith alot

The Bobcats are well represented in the many
Could also almost add Chuck Ealey, who withdrew from NFL draft when it became apparent they wouldn't give him a shot at QB. Played QB in CFL instead.
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Posted: 11/21/2025 11:27 AM
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Parker's ability to evade tacklers is so impressive, as a pro scout I would certainly entertain a tryout to see what kind of hands he has for some type of flex position.
Taysom Hill will be 36 next season, Saints need to line up his replacement soon.
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