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Posted: 11/21/2010 9:17 PM
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Funny things happen when guys become seniors. They suddenly get it. If you had told me that Austin Everson would ever be a proficient DI quarterback when he first began playing, I would've said you were crazy. 
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Good example. I remember prior to Everson's Senior year predicting he would improve dramatically, and getting a lot of flack her for that prediction.

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Bates will be the man next year. Count on it. Also count on him working out the kinks in his throwing mechanics and becoming an adequate passer.


I agree, Jim, that Bates has the potential for dramatic improvement. He needs to learn to control his emotion to be a really good QB, though, and that will be difficult. That concerns me more than his throwing motion.
Last Edited: 11/21/2010 9:21:58 PM by L.C.
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Posted: 11/21/2010 10:28 PM
Anyone who saw AE in his first collegiate start against UCF -- a game that Bobcats totally dominated -- thought he had a lot of potential.  For awhile he seemed to go downhill, but then, as L.C. said, he really bloomed in his senior year.  I would nominate him to my All-Time Ohio All Guts team.  He played with great guts and determination in every game -- and also, I might add, with lots of intelligence.  My wife and I had one opportunity at a GWC Ox Roast to have a nice long talk with him.  This, I believe, was prior to his senior year.  We were both impressed by how well spoken he was and his very positive attitude.  
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Posted: 11/23/2010 4:42 PM
If I remember from reading the articles pertaining to Roback he stated several times that he wanted to play on the offensive side of the ball not particularly QB.
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Posted: 11/23/2010 5:18 PM
AE is HOF for that 2006 season.  It all started--well, began again--there

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Posted: 11/23/2010 9:28 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Funny things happen when guys become seniors. They suddenly get it. If you had told me that Austin Everson would ever be a proficient DI quarterback when he first began playing, I would've said you were crazy. 
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Good example. I remember prior to Everson's Senior year predicting he would improve dramatically, and getting a lot of flack her for that prediction.


Thankfully the evidence was swallowed up by the internet crash, because I was probably the one who was giving you flack. I was not sold on Everson.
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Posted: 11/24/2010 9:25 AM
Lol, Brian, it doesn't matter who it was, and it wasn't just one person. I said before the season that Everson would have a solid Senior season based on the fact that it would be the first time in his 4 year career that he would be playing the same offense two years in a row. In this offense the QB is expected to do a lot of audibling, and the ability to recognize defensive schemes and know when to audible is something that comes with experience. Everson never was a threat to be an NFL QB, but he was a good college QB placed in a difficult situation, with new offensive coaches each year, and with new expectations.

Bates could have the same situation - coming on strong his Senior year, if he works hard at improving, and at controlling his emotions. We will just have to wait and see how that works out, but if he doesn't improve, there are several younger QBs who would love to displace him for the starting job.
Last Edited: 11/24/2010 9:27:09 AM by L.C.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 5:12 PM
Tyler Tettleton.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 5:48 PM
we saw again this year what it takes to win a MACC- strong play from the QB position.

2011 has a chance to be something special, we have a very winnable OOC- Gardner Webb, New Mexico State, Marshall, and Rutgers

Our home schedule should be fun with Marshall, Temple, Miami and Kent State all due a trip to Peden.

I like Bates but I hope we find a long term answer for QB starting next year. It would be nice to have a 3 or 4 year starter to help take us to the next level.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 6:51 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
we saw again this year what it takes to win a MACC- strong play from the QB position.

2011 has a chance to be something special, we have a very winnable OOC- Gardner Webb, New Mexico State, Marshall, and Rutgers

Our home schedule should be fun with Marshall, Temple, Miami and Kent State all due a trip to Peden.

I like Bates but I hope we find a long term answer for QB starting next year. It would be nice to have a 3 or 4 year starter to help take us to the next level.
I just like seniors. Sooo much experience. First year starters just make more mistakes. If anyone recalls Leach's progression of QBs at Texas Tech, most started as RS juniors or seniors with years in the program. I am seeing more rotation of QBs. I still think Bates will have a big senior year. I hope he gets to show his skills vs Troy.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 7:05 PM
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Tyler Tettleton.


This could be the answer to the question...."What Ohio scout team QB this year was the most impressive?"
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Posted: 12/7/2010 7:08 PM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
we saw again this year what it takes to win a MACC- strong play from the QB position.

2011 has a chance to be something special, we have a very winnable OOC- Gardner Webb, New Mexico State, Marshall, and Rutgers

Our home schedule should be fun with Marshall, Temple, Miami and Kent State all due a trip to Peden.

I like Bates but I hope we find a long term answer for QB starting next year. It would be nice to have a 3 or 4 year starter to help take us to the next level.


I just like seniors. Sooo much experience. First year starters just make more mistakes. If anyone recalls Leach's progression of QBs at Texas Tech, most started as RS juniors or seniors with years in the program. I am seeing more rotation of QBs. I still think Bates will have a big senior year. I hope he gets to show his skills vs Troy.


I believe Frank has had the Cats bowl eligible every season with a senior quarterback. Without one? 8-15.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 7:53 PM
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Anyone who saw AE in his first collegiate start against UCF -- a game that Bobcats totally dominated -- thought he had a lot of potential.  For awhile he seemed to go downhill, but then, as L.C. said, he really bloomed in his senior year.  I would nominate him to my All-Time Ohio All Guts team.  He played with great guts and determination in every game -- and also, I might add, with lots of intelligence.  My wife and I had one opportunity at a GWC Ox Roast to have a nice long talk with him.  This, I believe, was prior to his senior year.  We were both impressed by how well spoken he was and his very positive attitude.  


OCF, timely to be talking about AE. I had a conversation today with a member of the university staff during which I commented that I bet if you asked Coach Solich what he could do if he had an entire roster of AEs packaged in the necessary different sizes and shapes for a football team (but all with AE's talent, grit, determination, intelligence and such), Frank would tell you he would have a football team that would be a national power -- but which couldn't throw worth a darn.  From my perspective, that team wouldn't have to throw!

Another AE story. We were briefly in California this spring, at Pepperdine University. I was wearing some Green, and an RA commented, "Ohio." I of course quickly jumped in, "Not the Buckeyes." He said, "I know. The Bobcats." He proceeded to explain that he is from southern Mississippi, and there are a contingent of people in his hometown who are secondarily Ohio Bobcats fans. Their devotion to OUr team stems from the post-Katrina cleanup when a group of people came to his town. "There was this Ohio football player, this quarterback ..." and the rest of his story concerned the amazingly positive impression Austen Everson made on the people in that Mississippi town.

I did not realize that AE now is part of the athletics department at Nebraska -- another HuskerCat ... or perhaps a Bobsker.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 8:46 PM
Doc, I really think you are on to something there. That redshirt doesn't get placed unless the staff thinks they want Tettleton around a little longer. I think we will see both Bates and Tettleton split time next season much like we saw this year with Boo. But the spring will tell us a lot.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 9:00 PM
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Doc, I really think you are on to something there. That redshirt doesn't get placed unless the staff thinks they want Tettleton around a little longer. I think we will see both Bates and Tettleton split time next season much like we saw this year with Boo. But the spring will tell us a lot.



Just had an interesting talk today with someone who knows football and his son is there at every practice. His son said the other guys were good, but that Tettleton gave the Ohio defense fits.

We can't forget Snyder however.....he has the best arm of the group.
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Anyone who saw AE in his first collegiate start against UCF -- a game that Bobcats totally dominated -- thought he had a lot of potential.  For awhile he seemed to go downhill, but then, as L.C. said, he really bloomed in his senior year.  I would nominate him to my All-Time Ohio All Guts team.  He played with great guts and determination in every game -- and also, I might add, with lots of intelligence.  My wife and I had one opportunity at a GWC Ox Roast to have a nice long talk with him.  This, I believe, was prior to his senior year.  We were both impressed by how well spoken he was and his very positive attitude.  


OCF, timely to be talking about AE. I had a conversation today with a member of the university staff during which I commented that I bet if you asked Coach Solich what he could do if he had an entire roster of AEs packaged in the necessary different sizes and shapes for a football team (but all with AE's talent, grit, determination, intelligence and such), Frank would tell you he would have a football team that would be a national power -- but which couldn't throw worth a darn.  From my perspective, that team wouldn't have to throw!

Another AE story. We were briefly in California this spring, at Pepperdine University. I was wearing some Green, and an RA commented, "Ohio." I of course quickly jumped in, "Not the Buckeyes." He said, "I know. The Bobcats." He proceeded to explain that he is from southern Mississippi, and there are a contingent of people in his hometown who are secondarily Ohio Bobcats fans. Their devotion to OUr team stems from the post-Katrina cleanup when a group of people came to his town. "There was this Ohio football player, this quarterback ..." and the rest of his story concerned the amazingly positive impression Austen Everson made on the people in that Mississippi town.

I did not realize that AE now is part of the athletics department at Nebraska -- another HuskerCat ... or perhaps a Bobsker.


Austen Everson was a freshman when I was a senior and I got to know a little bit personally. We actually ended up playing on the same intermural basketball team. He was probably about the type of basketball player you'd expect. He didn't have exceptional talent, but even then he worked hard. Even then, I was most impressed with the person he was, especially for an 18-year-old kid. He always had a positive attitude and got along with everyone on every team. We were average. We killed a team, got killed and had some close games. He was the same no matter what. I hadn't heard what he was up to since graduating and I'm sure he'd be doing well for himself and I'm glad to hear that he is. We'd be lucky to have another quarterback like him come along.
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Posted: 12/8/2010 11:24 PM
I don't know who it will be next year. However, I have seen so many strong armed QB's this year in college football. Teams like LA Tech, Nevada and many other schools. I know the guy at Nevada is a special player but why can't we land a strong armed QB? I am looking forward to seeing Snyder. Maybe he will answer the bell.

Is LeVon back?
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Posted: 12/9/2010 10:17 AM
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we saw again this year what it takes to win a MACC- strong play from the QB position.

2011 has a chance to be something special, we have a very winnable OOC- Gardner Webb, New Mexico State, Marshall, and Rutgers

Our home schedule should be fun with Marshall, Temple, Miami and Kent State all due a trip to Peden.

I like Bates but I hope we find a long term answer for QB starting next year. It would be nice to have a 3 or 4 year starter to help take us to the next level.


+1

The future's bright with an opportunity to run the same hybrid QB offense we ran this year and be able to do so from Spring Ball on.  Couple that OOC schedule with the extra practice time afforded for the Bowl game and the return of LaVon and Noah...The Cats gotta wear shades... 
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Posted: 12/10/2010 1:46 AM
D-line is the main concern.  Run dominate and pressure qb.
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Posted: 12/10/2010 9:02 AM
Am I correct is the fact that Frank red-shirted Tyler this season?
If so, why?



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Posted: 12/11/2010 5:58 PM
so he could play most of next year and start the following year ... consistancy
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Posted: 12/11/2010 6:54 PM
There are a lot of wins on our early schedule so I hope we have this decided in fall camp.I am told Snyder is the best thrower but he is not game tested (yet). Phil will probably have a similar role next year, which is to test the defense with a run and short pass attack. We will have awesome receivers again so we will need to have a top notch passing game.
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we saw again this year what it takes to win a MACC- strong play from the QB position.

2011 has a chance to be something special, we have a very winnable OOC- Gardner Webb, New Mexico State, Marshall, and Rutgers

Our home schedule should be fun with Marshall, Temple, Miami and Kent State all due a trip to Peden.

I like Bates but I hope we find a long term answer for QB starting next year. It would be nice to have a 3 or 4 year starter to help take us to the next level.


I just like seniors. Sooo much experience. First year starters just make more mistakes. If anyone recalls Leach's progression of QBs at Texas Tech, most started as RS juniors or seniors with years in the program. I am seeing more rotation of QBs. I still think Bates will have a big senior year. I hope he gets to show his skills vs Troy.


I believe Frank has had the Cats bowl eligible every season with a senior quarterback. Without one? 8-15.


Our Sr Qbs have gotten us bowl eligible but we don't have any bowl wins (yet) or MACCs to show for it. A 3-4 year Dysert/LeFarve type QB migh be whats needed to get us over the hump. Not having a clear starting QB at the beginning of the season every year is a drag too. You could argue that if we had a clear starting QB at the beginning of this season that we could have pulled off wins against Toledo and Marshall. Realistically we could have been 10-1(7-0) and nationally ranked going into the Kent State game and would still be in the MACC regardless if we win or lose. 

That's not to take away from the great job Boo and Bates have done for us this year, just saying it took us until the 2nd half of our 4th game to find our groove. A 3 or 4 year starter helps negate those slow starts. I'd like to see one of the young guys take Boo's spot with Bates in an expanded role next year. Penn State in 2012 is our only tough OOC in the next two years, its a great time to get a new QB some experience. It would be nice going into 2013 with a 2 year starter at QB when we play North Texas, Marshall, Louisville and TBD in OOC. Maybe we'd be ready to add a quality, yet winnable Marquee game in Peden as our 4th OOC that year.   
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