I still can't believe they pay him $1M per year.

I can't believe they can afford to pay him $1M per year.

And yet, when I visited their board before the MACC, they had not one, but seven separate threads talking about why Candle should be fired immediately, and no threads about the MAC Championship game at all until about a day before the game.

They have a budget that is 25.2 million, about 4 million more than OU.

The money has to go to something.

OU's endowment is $200M more than Toledo.

OU has 56 wins since 2015. 4 bowl wins.

Toledo/Candle has 54 wins since 2015. 2 bowl wins.

I can imagine the advertising revenue in Toledo is more robust, but an additional $400K per year (ball park $2.5M+ since his 1st extension) to pay for that contract?

I can’t find recent info but Toledo was receiving over 2 million in donations support for athletics over 5 years ago. Their student fees to support athletics was the lowest in the MAC ( old data 2015). Football attendance is the highest in the MAC. They seem to be okay financially on several counts. Not sure why we can’t believe that they pay their coach $1MM, they must be able to justify it to the people who count there.

Do you really think the average fan remembers bowl wins? They do remember league championships and most on this board weren't alive when we won the last one.

I believe you believe the average fan is 60 years old and that 60 year old fan thinks they're the only fan. Yes.

I can't speak on hypotheticals and nonsensical babbling, that's where you come in.

I can only address the facts.
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This reminds me of a time I was getting my grad degree at Xavier. While I was there I was interning for the AD with marketing doing the timeout and halftime promotions and such. I distinctly remember overhearing a radio conversation between the SID, Marketing, Ticketing and the facilities guy who ran the Cintas Center. I can't remember the game, but it definitely wasn't a marquee matchup - some middle of winter game against an A-10 conference opponent.

Anyways, ticket guy comes over the radio with the actual tickets scanned number (people through the door). Marketing guy says something like "eh, lets just round it up to X,XXX" Now, Cintas at the time had a capacity of 10,000. I'd only ever seen it completely full twice - for Cincinnati and Dayton. Other times it was still a pretty packed house as this was in the midst of their A-10 dominance, but it definitely was NOT full by any means. During the timeout promotions I'd walk around the top and there were plenty of empty seats to be had.

There was one time when they rounded it up to sell out just because it was "close enough." I kept thinking to myself, "you just added 700 extra people to this building" and laughing. NCAA attendance is a marketing ploy. Tell people you sold out and it makes it sound like you've got the hottest ticket in town.

Alan that I agree those budget numbers are not indicative of revenue and include different components in them. One school will include a band while another will not so the budget numbers aren't even a direct apples to apple comparison. Some will have facility debt included in the numbers to inflate outlay.

But what it speaks to more in a general way is financial commitment of an athletic department. SEC budgets are all 3-4 times MAC budgets. A larger G5 budget shows generally greater commitment, particularly if the difference is more than a few million.

I know some on here are ANGRY that TA isn't the highest paid coach in the MAC but all that is needed to show a commitment at the conference level is to get him into the Top 3 or 4 pay wise of the conference to be competitive.

There is no point in paying him 2 million a year to be the highest paid and then have Toledo turn around in a year when Candle leaves going ahead to bring in a coach that is paid 2.5 million. All it does is cause a coaching salary arms race in the MAC. Its not going to be enough to prevent him from going to a P5. This is why you've seen a leveling of of G5 salaries in recent years to try to stem off a salary arms race.

Would you rather see Ohio pay TA an extra 900k a year or see Ohio spend 900k on new hydro pools? Which is going to have a greater impact on recruiting?

When your two main competitors for students are increasingly OSU and UC you want to invest. JC has said Boal's win over Virginia in the tournament was worth $91 million in marketing value to Ohio. Was it a plea for help aimed at the administration for more support?