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Posted: 10/19/2011 1:20 PM
There are several law suits winding through courts that the NCAA will likely lose and which will send them running to Congress for help.  Congress can protect them but will want some things in return, like the BCS schools not splitting from the NCAA I assume.
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Posted: 10/19/2011 4:51 PM
An individual conference or small group of schools could bolt the NCAA, but if all the BCS schools left as a group you'd see anti-trust action against the BCS -- probably starting in the Senate Judiciary Committee.  If all FBS schools left the NCAA together that would probably have less anti-trust implications.  Congress has a vested interest in this issue having been a party -- along with President Teddy Roosevelt -- to the founding of the NCAA for the purposes of saving football when it was on the verge of being banned because of the number injuries and deaths that were occurring on the gridiron of that day.  A decade before this attempt to ban football, the death of Ralph O'Bleness, Ohio QB, and brother of Charles G. O'Bleness, during a practice before a scheduled game with WVU in 1898 made national headlines and was cited as evidence by both pro- and anti-football partisans.  
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Posted: 10/19/2011 6:17 PM
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:expand_more


Coach K. is mouthing off. When conference commissioners and BCS bowl executives start talking about proposals to leave the NCAA then I would start to worry.
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Posted: 10/19/2011 7:05 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
A decade before this attempt to ban football, the death of Ralph O'Bleness, Ohio QB, and brother of Charles G. O'Bleness, during a practice before a scheduled game with WVU in 1898 made national headlines and was cited as evidence by both pro- and anti-football partisans.  


He died on the spot of what is now Victory Hill and hence forth its cursed.
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Posted: 10/19/2011 7:24 PM
I know that Bob Huggins and others have been lobbying that the Big 6 conferences should have a separate b-ball tourneys for Big 6 conferences than the mid- and lower majors.  Don't see that happening any time soon so long as there's a Butler or a Gonzaga lurking out there.  I don't see them bolting the NCAA in football, either.  So long as they can keep on over-signing recruits or can make the coach the fall guy for lack of institutional control, they'll put up with the occasional wrist-slap from the NCAA.  It's perfect cover for legitimacy.
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Posted: 10/19/2011 7:45 PM
Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
A decade before this attempt to ban football, the death of Ralph O'Bleness, Ohio QB, and brother of Charles G. O'Bleness, during a practice before a scheduled game with WVU in 1898 made national headlines and was cited as evidence by both pro- and anti-football partisans.  


He died on the spot of what is now Victory Hill and hence forth its cursed.


I hereby call on Ralph O'Bleness' spirit to life the Bobcats instead of curse them.  (Quick, someone spin around 3 times and then sacrifice a chicken.)


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Posted: 10/19/2011 8:52 PM
I'm not sure about this, Wes, but I think the field might have been where Porter Hall now is.  In my youth it was the Ohio baseball field, and I was told by old timers that it had been used for football.  I've also heard that the first football field was behind where McCracken Hall now is, where the old high school football stadium was in my day.  Perhaps, I can get Doug McCabe at the Alden archives investigating this burning question.  Of course this happened during a practice, so maybe it was in the old IPF, which I believe was in a large barn on the Slaughter farm on the top of what is now Second Street.  

BTW, they went ahead and played the game with WVU in Parkersburg and lost 16-0, the previous year Ohio had won in Athens 12-0.  Even back then having a good QB was apparently important.

Edit: Uncle Wes and Ohio69, hey, if Notre Dame can motivate players to "Win one for the Gipper," why can't Ohio occasionally "win one for Ralph"?  Maybe we need to give him a more catchy nickname. "Win one for The Blenny?"  Or, how about "Win one for the Chrysthanthemums"?  That's what the team was sometimes called then; it was way before the Bobcat mascot was chosen. 
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Posted: 10/19/2011 11:52 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
I'm not sure about this, Wes, but I think the field might have been where Porter Hall now is.  In my youth it was the Ohio baseball field, and I was told by old timers that it had been used for football.  I've also heard that the first football field was behind where McCracken Hall now is, where the old high school football stadium was in my day.  Perhaps, I can get Doug McCabe at the Alden archives investigating this burning question.  Of course this happened during a practice, so maybe it was in the old IPF, which I believe was in a large barn on the Slaughter farm on the top of what is now Second Street.  

BTW, they went ahead and played the game with WVU in Parkersburg and lost 14-0, the previous year Ohio had won in Athens 12-0.  Even back then having a good QB was apparently important.

Edit: Uncle Wes and Ohio69, hey, if Notre Dame can motivate players to "Win one for the Gipper," why can't Ohio occasionally "win one for Ralph"?  Maybe we need to give him a more catchy nickname. "Win one for The Blenny?"  Or, how about "Win one for the Chrysthanthemums"?  That's what the team was sometimes called then; it was way before the Bobcat mascot was chosen. 


OCF: You always provide these gems that only Bobcat Attack posters will appreciate.  Love it!
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Posted: 10/20/2011 6:05 PM
You may figure out a way to trump O'Bleness's curse, but you'll have a harder time dealing with Cornstalk's.
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Posted: 10/20/2011 6:59 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
You may figure out a way to trump O'Bleness's curse, but you'll have a harder time dealing with Cornstalk's.


MOTHMAN LIVES!!!
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Posted: 10/20/2011 11:51 PM
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You may figure out a way to trump O'Bleness's curse, but you'll have a harder time dealing with Cornstalk's.


It's not a curse, it's a motivational story.  Win one for The Blenny!

As for Cornstalk, his big battle was over there in West Virginia, so we'll let Pt. Pleasant High School deal with that one.
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Posted: 10/21/2011 10:41 AM
Cornstalk included all of the mid-Ohio valley and Tecumseh has the rest of southern Ohio covered. 
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Posted: 10/21/2011 11:38 AM
Fist, he was murdered in Pt. Pleasant, and according to the ever semi-accurate wikipedia:

Cornstalk was originally buried at Fort Randolph; in 1840 his grave was found and the remains moved to the Mason County Courthouse grounds; when in 1954 the courthouse was torn down he was reburied in Point Pleasant. Legends arose about his dying "curse" being the cause of misfortunes in the area (later supplanted by local "mothman" stories), though no contemporary historical source mentions any such utterance by Cornstalk.
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Posted: 10/21/2011 4:06 PM
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I know that Bob Huggins and others have been lobbying that the Big 6 conferences should have a separate b-ball tourneys for Big 6 conferences than the mid- and lower majors. 


Huggy is just tired of mighty Big East teams like Georgetown, Villanova, Louisville, Pittsburgh, and West Virginia getting knocked off in the NCAA Tourney by "little guys" like OU, VCU, George Mason, Morehead State, Butler, and Dayton.
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