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Tyler
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Posted: 10/25/2011 1:36 PM
One of my friends at Fiami sent me this gem. He hates the reputation and is writing a response to it. We both thought it was satire at first, but he confirmed with the author's friends that it is 100% serious

Students should respect the Miami stereotype, embrace its reputation

www.miamistudent.net/opinion/opinion-students-should-respect-the-miami-stereotype-embrace-its-reputation-1.2663465#.Tqbx4pwu7Zc
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Posted: 10/25/2011 2:08 PM
Having spent a misbegotten 18 months living in Oxford for work, this jarred back some dark memories for me. The article really does describe the bizarre sense of entitlement and superiority complex of the average Miami student. It is impervious to logic and sticks with alumni even after they leave Butler County for some internship their dad scored them at P&G or Fifth Third. I foolishly chose to live in Oxford shortly after graduating from OU, thinking that a college town would be fun. I entered somewhat bemused by the OU/Miami rivalry but I left with a white-hot hatred for that school. I made a few friends there, but most of Miami and alumni remain smug and deluded their entire lives. It’s an institution worthy of our most withering derision.
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Posted: 10/25/2011 2:16 PM
"Fourthly" (well, actually, "Thirdly" in this string), feel pity for this poor misguided soul as he heads for the great comeuppance known as the real world.
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Posted: 10/25/2011 2:23 PM
Should have just added this link to the "So Say Us All" Thread.
Reason #2357 why Miami sucks....
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Posted: 10/25/2011 2:27 PM
As a Miami alum, I can tell you that stuff like this makes me cringe.
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Posted: 10/25/2011 6:43 PM
In the great circle of life, a son comes to understand his father's wisdom rather late in life.

I was all but enrolled in Miami in 1979 per my mother's wishes, but my father insisted that he have a chance to check out the place more closely before signing a check.  I can still remember walking with him in a tour group as our guide droned on about the "Miami mystique" and how privileged we would be to attend the school.  My father, a Northwestern graduate, kept rolling his eyes and muttering gems like, "Last I checked, this was still a state school."  At the end of the tour, the guide asked if there were any questions. My father raised his hand and asked, "Where do they get their beer?"  She replied that Oxford was dry and that Miami students weren't known for drinking ("unlike some other schools").  He raised his hand again and asked, "What do they do for entertainment?"  She replied that Greek life was the center of the social scene.  So he asked, "And where do they get THEIR beer?"  She finally admitted that many students made weekly trips across the Indiana border.  "THAT sounds safe," said the old man.

On the way home, as my mother was extolling the virtues of of MU, my father turned around and said, "If you ask me, the Miami mystique could be a big mistake.  I think you should keep looking."  My next trip was to Athens and he didn't express even the slightest concern when I asked him to write the check.

 
Last Edited: 10/25/2011 6:49:07 PM by SBH
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Posted: 10/25/2011 7:14 PM
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withering derision


Nice prose!  Kudos!
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Posted: 10/25/2011 8:37 PM
SBH, Oxford was really dry in 1979?  It certainly wasn't dry when my daughter went there for her first two years in the 1990s.  She wised up after her sophomore year and transferred to Ohio, which she had previously referred to as "Slow U," whatever that was suppose to mean.
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Posted: 10/26/2011 12:21 AM
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SBH, Oxford was really dry in 1979? It certainly wasn't dry when my daughter went there for her first two years in the 1990s. She wised up after her sophomore year and transferred to Ohio, which she had previously referred to as "Slow U," whatever that was suppose to mean.
I grew up right up the road from Oxford, in Preble County. Spent 2 summer music camps at Fiami (74/75). Both of my parents attended (Mother - OSU Undergrad, Fiami Masters - Father also OSU undergrad, Fiami to fullfill requirements for Teachers Certificate). My aunt was an English Literature professor there for quite a few years also. I witnessed the tragic fire downtown in '72(?) when there for my mothers Masters Degree graduation. Saw 5 firefighters go into a blazing building - and the building collapsed on them right after they went in (all died) - will never forget that.

Oxford was definately Not Dry in the 70's - I will always remember the first bar I went into as under age high schooler was the infamous Boars Head. Muther's was also there for years. MAYBE it was dry per retail liscenses - possible as I remember a carryout just outside the township border - would sell beer to ANYONE - just hand him a driver's liscense - I don't think he could read! Oxford Was, and Still Is very "Dry" when it comes to the nature of the community - Incredibly "Dry"!

As you may gather - I was almost "pre-destined" for either O$U, or Fiami. Actually was accepted into the Music School at O$U (not easy!) - then, I visited some friends down in Athens one weekend......... "Way down in Athens County, that's where I am" (Jonathan Edwards) - it was a done deal...........
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Posted: 10/26/2011 12:59 AM
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Having spent a misbegotten 18 months living in Oxford for work, this jarred back some dark memories for me. The article really does describe the bizarre sense of entitlement and superiority complex of the average Miami student.


Miami has dropped a ton in the college rankings from where they were listed 10 years ago. The USWNR had Miami listed #90 when a decade ago that ranking was in the 50's. Granted Ohio has dropped from 90 to 120 in that time frame but those rankings in that range include 5-10 schools at a time that are tied. Miami is not an Ivy League school and I don't even know if they would meet the definition of Public Ivy anymore. They certainly aren't a Junior Ivy either like Northwestern or Vanderbilt, backup schools for kids who can't get into an Ivy or Stanford/Cal Tech. Miami is nothing more than the top state school in the dull Miami Valley region. The relative selectivity is due to the millions of people who live nearby. I'm not sure why anyone would want to attend the school if they didn't live in SW Ohio. The same with Columbus State-High Street (OSU) unless you want to study something rare like Material Science.
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Posted: 10/26/2011 1:30 AM
Youngstown Bobcat wrote:expand_more
One of my friends at Fiami sent me this gem. He hates the reputation and is writing a response to it. We both thought it was satire at first, but he confirmed with the author's friends that it is 100% serious

Students should respect the Miami stereotype, embrace its reputation

www.miamistudent.net/opinion/opinion-students-should-respect-the-miami-stereotype-embrace-its-reputation-1.2663465#.Tqbx4pwu7Zc


The premise is good looks are key to success in life. Good looks are only key to success at the bar. Graduates of Harvard and Emory have careers. Graduates of Miami have kids and drive SUV's. 
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Posted: 10/26/2011 1:59 PM
The only mystique about Fiami is how can one school in a dirtwater part of Ohio be so full of sh*t without having an ag school?  (The Farmer School of Business doesn't count.)
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Posted: 10/26/2011 5:14 PM
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Miami is not an Ivy League school and I don't even know if they would meet the definition of Public Ivy anymore.


I sure hope not.

I qualified for the place.

In the words of my hero Groucho: "I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member."
Last Edited: 10/26/2011 5:16:35 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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Posted: 10/27/2011 10:15 PM
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...  My father, a Northwestern graduate......"Where do they get their beer?"  She replied that Oxford was dry and that Miami students weren't known for drinking ("unlike some other schools").  He raised his hand again and asked, "What do they do for entertainment?"  She replied that Greek life was the center of the social scene.  So he asked, "And where do they get THEIR beer?"  She finally admitted that many students made weekly trips across the Indiana border.  "THAT sounds safe," said the old man....

As a Northwestern graduate, it's worth pointing out that Evanston was dry, as well. Where did we get our beer? Um, we took trips to Skokie or Howard Street in Chicago.
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Posted: 10/28/2011 5:42 AM
My father was in Evanston from 1946-1950 will a lot of other GI's fresh from the European theatre.  They had zero problems getting booze in Evanston - delivered from Chicago.



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Posted: 10/29/2011 10:37 AM
SBH wrote:expand_more
In the great circle of life, a son comes to understand his father's wisdom rather late in life.

I was all but enrolled in Miami in 1979 per my mother's wishes, but my father insisted that he have a chance to check out the place more closely before signing a check.  I can still remember walking with him in a tour group as our guide droned on about the "Miami mystique" and how privileged we would be to attend the school.  My father, a Northwestern graduate, kept rolling his eyes and muttering gems like, "Last I checked, this was still a state school."  At the end of the tour, the guide asked if there were any questions. My father raised his hand and asked, "Where do they get their beer?"  She replied that Oxford was dry and that Miami students weren't known for drinking ("unlike some other schools").  He raised his hand again and asked, "What do they do for entertainment?"  She replied that Greek life was the center of the social scene.  So he asked, "And where do they get THEIR beer?"  She finally admitted that many students made weekly trips across the Indiana border.  "THAT sounds safe," said the old man.

On the way home, as my mother was extolling the virtues of of MU, my father turned around and said, "If you ask me, the Miami mystique could be a big mistake.  I think you should keep looking."  My next trip was to Athens and he didn't express even the slightest concern when I asked him to write the check.
Great, great, story. I am still laughing. Your father reminds me of me.
Last Edited: 10/29/2011 10:41:47 AM by Oldcat
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Posted: 10/30/2011 8:02 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
In the great circle of life, a son comes to understand his father's wisdom rather late in life.

I was all but enrolled in Miami in 1979 per my mother's wishes, but my father insisted that he have a chance to check out the place more closely before signing a check.  I can still remember walking with him in a tour group as our guide droned on about the "Miami mystique" and how privileged we would be to attend the school.  My father, a Northwestern graduate, kept rolling his eyes and muttering gems like, "Last I checked, this was still a state school."  At the end of the tour, the guide asked if there were any questions. My father raised his hand and asked, "Where do they get their beer?"  She replied that Oxford was dry and that Miami students weren't known for drinking ("unlike some other schools").  He raised his hand again and asked, "What do they do for entertainment?"  She replied that Greek life was the center of the social scene.  So he asked, "And where do they get THEIR beer?"  She finally admitted that many students made weekly trips across the Indiana border.  "THAT sounds safe," said the old man.

On the way home, as my mother was extolling the virtues of of MU, my father turned around and said, "If you ask me, the Miami mystique could be a big mistake.  I think you should keep looking."  My next trip was to Athens and he didn't express even the slightest concern when I asked him to write the check.

 


Pops is a great guy.  You trail the redhawk taint of misanthropy.
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