I already liked Ohio’s chances vs ISU, now I really like them. He started every game last season and threw for over 3,000 yards and better than 66%. Massive blow to the Cyclones.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38117323...

It looks like there is a real problem within the program. As is many of these cases there could be more info and possible athletes involved.
Stay tuned the story is not over.




GO BOBCATS

With legalized sports betting all the rage these days, I suspect that we are going to see a lot more of this type of situation in college athletics, particularly football and basketball. Point shaving scandals will probably not be far behind.

And now another story about an Iowa kicker.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/iowa-kick... /

Word is he bet the under on the Iowa-Iowa State game and won. LMFAO.

What was his log in name? HunterDekkersQB. Further proof we're not surrounding these kids with the proper guidance. At least use Dunter Hekkers. Cmon man.

Imagine betting the under on your team... sitting in the locker room. Beautiful.

Surprise, surprise. We disagree. I think that not only will it be uncovered more, but that it'll be happening more. There's just a looser attitude today about betting.

A somewhat related tangent: I remember in the early 1970s when the Ohio constitutional amendment was on the ballot to allow for the creation of the Ohio Lottery, there were those who said it would only shift illegal betting to legal betting (which seemed like a good idea to me), but others warned that it would increase the number of people betting (which seemed like a bad idea to me). I could not decide which was more likely, so I left that line on the ballot blank. Knowing what I know today, I would have voted against it. What I didn't comprehend at the time was that the state lottery would run all kinds of deceptive ads encouraging folks to bet. The number of people gambling today in Ohio is astronomically higher than before the lottery was created, and many of those who do so are those who can least afford it. As someone once put it, the lottery is a tax on ignorance.

Yes, I think the lottery preys on those who can least afford it and I agree that, for the most part, it can be called a tax on ignorance. To a slightly lesser extent so can sports betting. Unlike the lottery there actually is some skill involved but almost nobody has the skill to beat the house. This is actually almost more of a trap for the ignorant than the lottery because the most ignorant people are often the most prone to actually believing that the one to beat the house is going to be them without much justification of that belief. And why I say "for the most part" is there are some that are not ignorant and choose to play anyway with the understanding that they are nearly certain to lose money over time. When I go to the movies I expect to lose money. I make that decision purely for entertainment. It is possible to gamble solely for the sake of entertainment, know that you are going to lose money, budget for and be able to afford that loss, and not get addicted. But it often doesn't work like that in the end.

But I think you are also mostly harming yourself and the argument doesn't come down to just is it harmful. Even in the case where something is harmful to others and not just to yourself we also have to consider personal freedom. I mean I think that is is wrong to not call your mother but I don't think that means you should be legally required to do so. If it is only harmful to yourself then I think that it has to be very destructive before we would start limiting your ability to make your own decisions. Yes, I understand that also doesn't mean the government has to promote poor decision making themselves and that this poor decision affects your family and to a smaller extent others.

One could argue that if the lottery is mostly a tax on ignorance then if it is doing its job in improving education then it should not be able to exist.

I don't think he's betting against his team. I think he knows Iowa's offense under Brian Ferentz is god awful. At least he's smart about his bets.

BLSS & Victory: You both make some good points. I guess we'll have to see if we end up with some point shaving scandals in the next year or two. BTC may be correct that the algorithms used will catch them quickly, but there are always people who think they can get away with cheating, and sometimes they do, or at least did in the past.

Does anyone remember the details of the point-shaving scandal at Toledo a number of years ago? If I'm remembering correctly, UT has been caught twice with basketball point shaving scandals -- one way, way back (maybe 1950s) and the other relatively more recent. This is just from memory, and as SBH will tell you, my memory is fallible.

The State of Iowa doesn't care much about kids' ywell-being . They're letting under 18s work in dangerous industries such as meat packing plants and mines so long as it's part of an "educational" program.. Laughable.

We're already seeing a lot of gambling issues. Several baseball programs were hit this past spring, including Bama and I think one of the Iowa teams, because players were gambling on some pro sports. NCAA rules prohibit gambling on any sport that the NCAA regulates, no matter what level. Some of the baseball players had bet on pro football games and because the NCAA regulates college football, the players violated the rules.

Who needed a fake ID in Athens? We just walked right into the bars as freshmen (1979). I had the same pleasant experience at the State Liquor Store.

They never carded anyone in my days 1977-1981. The story I heard back then from a bar owner was that the local police know it was going on. Once every few years they would bust one of the bars. The owners knew they had to take their turn every once in a while.