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Posted: 11/27/2011 2:24 PM
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I'd rather see The Bobcats play a Big Ten team than an Arkansas State or Utah State.  Pizza Bowl against the Boilermakers, Northwestern or even Illinois is more attractive and Cats fans will recall  it longer.  Remember the win over Illinois a couple of years ago?
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Posted: 11/27/2011 8:59 PM
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In years past I completely agreed. A nine win season "seeming;y" deserves a better opponent than a Sun Belt squad whom we pad our out of conference sked with.

But the fact we are 0*5 in bowls all time, and 0-3 in the past few years (and only competitive in ONE). I am more interested in a winable game. And if a directional Louisiana school or ArkSt is our opponent is who we play, so be it. Careful what you wish for - beating a 6 win Big 10 would be a monster upset. Trust me, we'd be a 10-14 point dog to UP, NU or Ill.

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Posted: 11/27/2011 10:14 PM
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World B. Free wrote:expand_more
In years past I completely agreed. A nine win season "seeming;y" deserves a better opponent than a Sun Belt squad whom we pad our out of conference sked with.

But the fact we are 0*5 in bowls all time, and 0-3 in the past few years (and only competitive in ONE). I am more interested in a winable game. And if a directional Louisiana school or ArkSt is our opponent is who we play, so be it. Careful what you wish for - beating a 6 win Big 10 would be a monster upset. Trust me, we'd be a 10-14 point dog to UP, NU or Ill.

Michael


BTW, WBF, Purdue is PU, in more ways than one. 
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Posted: 11/27/2011 10:57 PM
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WBF,  What are you smoking?  Beating Illinois would not be a "monster upset."  We did it against a better Illini team a few years ago in the regular season and it was just a mild upset. 
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Posted: 11/27/2011 11:15 PM
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I totally agree in that I would MUCH rather prefer playing a namebrand opponent vs. Utah State, Arkansas State, etc...  I'm kind of new to following OHIO Football but I would go out of my way to go to a game versus Purdue, Illiniois, Ohio State or ANYBODY that has a name I can recognize.  And while I may be a fair-weathered fan, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to Boise or Mobile to watch us play a team that resembles what we play during our OOC schedule at home that's now packaged as a reward for a great season.

In fact,if permitted  I wish our administration would turn down the higher ranked bowls (should we win vs NIU) and choose a bowl that has a more attractive opponent if the option is available.  I assume however if we win, we're locked into previous agreements??
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Posted: 11/28/2011 1:34 AM
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In fact,if permitted  I wish our administration would turn down the higher ranked bowls (should we win vs NIU) and choose a bowl that has a more attractive opponent if the option is available.  I assume however if we win, we're locked into previous agreements??


I know the bowls have a pecking order for picking teams and the contracted MAC bowls pay MAC teams more money than non-contracted games. We aren't locked into games its only that its our best option financially in most cases. A game against the Big Ten in Detroit would be tough to turn down.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 7:07 AM
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In fact,if permitted  I wish our administration would turn down the higher ranked bowls (should we win vs NIU) and choose a bowl that has a more attractive opponent if the option is available.  I assume however if we win, we're locked into previous agreements??


I know the bowls have a pecking order for picking teams and the contracted MAC bowls pay MAC teams more money than non-contracted games. We aren't locked into games its only that its our best option financially in most cases. A game against the Big Ten in Detroit would be tough to turn down.


And we don't pick the bowls; the bowls pick us.  If we turn down one of the three under contract with the MAC, there's no guarantee that another bowl invitation would come our way, unless some kind of deal were cut beforehand (in which case, the MAC and its bowl partners would likely need to be involved).  Right now, there are only 71 bowl eligible teams with 70 slots to fill, so the odds would be pretty good.  But if the bowl eligibles climb 74 or 75 this weekend, turning down a bowl is less of an option.  Remember, Temps stayed home last year with an 8-4 record against some decent teams.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 9:00 AM
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Part of me agrees, it would be more attractive if we played a team from the Big 10 Conference, at least from a name recognition standpoint. However, if we're lucky enough to play in Mobile in the GoDaddy.com Bowl against an Arkansas State or if we have to play Utah St. in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl, I bet we'd be underdogs in both of those games too. Right now Sagarin Ratings has Arkansas St. at #54, Utah St. at #74 and Ohio's at #76. Arkansas St. is a good team and we all remember what a team from the Sun Belt Conference did to us in a bowl game last year. So we may very well be the underdog no matter where we play.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 9:31 AM
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WBF, What are you smoking? Beating Illinois would not be a "monster upset." We did it against a better Illini team a few years ago in the regular season and it was just a mild upset.


Illinois finished 2-10 the year Ohio beat them (2006).

This year, they're 6-6.

They beat Arkansas State 33-15 this year before crashing during the second half of the season.

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... I'm pretty sure I'm not going to Boise or Mobile to watch us play a team that resembles what we play during our OOC schedule at home that's now packaged as a reward for a great season.


Agreed.

Arkansas State doesn't have any really impressive wins this year. They're a lot like Ohio and ranked just about the same. 
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Posted: 11/28/2011 10:23 AM
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A little OT, but kinda related......I've said all along that I don't see osu in the Pizza Bowl because they would self-impose a bowl ban before accepting a bid that was viewed as "beneath" them. When discussing it with an in-law (HUUUUUUGE osu fan) this weekend, he gave me his 2 cents on it: he thinks they would accept a Pizza Bowl bid just for the extra practices, especially if Meyer is announced as the new HC this week (which ESPN is now reporting), since it will help him install his new system.

I hadn't thought about that wrinkle. I still think osu either makes a better bowl or imposes the bowl ban, but it would make it VERY interesting for whatever MAC team faced them in the Pizza Bowl.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 11:03 AM
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FP,  you are right about the Illinois record that year, but they were a building team at that point and had the much hyped Juice Wiiliams at QB, who led them to a victory in The 'Shoe the following year.  This year's Illini team is headed south having laid a complete egg for the second half of the season.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 11:59 AM
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I hadn't thought about that wrinkle. I still think osu either makes a better bowl or imposes the bowl ban, but it would make it VERY interesting for whatever MAC team faced them in the Pizza Bowl.


Regardless of that 6-6 record Ohio State is a very dangerous team that lost close games to top level Big Ten competition. Illinois is a totally different deal. I expect OSU to end up in the seventh contracted Big Ten spot since the last 4 schools in the Big Ten all have 6-6 records. The 8th spot will go to Purdue or Northwestern.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 12:02 PM
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In fact,if permitted  I wish our administration would turn down the higher ranked bowls (should we win vs NIU) and choose a bowl that has a more attractive opponent if the option is available.  I assume however if we win, we're locked into previous agreements??


I know the bowls have a pecking order for picking teams and the contracted MAC bowls pay MAC teams more money than non-contracted games. We aren't locked into games its only that its our best option financially in most cases. A game against the Big Ten in Detroit would be tough to turn down.


And we don't pick the bowls; the bowls pick us.  If we turn down one of the three under contract with the MAC, there's no guarantee that another bowl invitation would come our way, unless some kind of deal were cut beforehand (in which case, the MAC and its bowl partners would likely need to be involved).  Right now, there are only 71 bowl eligible teams with 70 slots to fill, so the odds would be pretty good.  But if the bowl eligibles climb 74 or 75 this weekend, turning down a bowl is less of an option.  Remember, Temps stayed home last year with an 8-4 record against some decent teams.


The agreement has to be mutual between the bowl and team. Ohio could refuse Detroit for example and Boise will gladly accept the Bobcats. Its been done this way in the MAC for years. 
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Posted: 11/28/2011 1:12 PM
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Ohio State will take any bowl they can get, Urban Meyer will happily take those 15 practices.
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