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Posted: 12/20/2011 2:49 PM
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Posted: 12/20/2011 2:52 PM
Who gives a &*^( this is OU!  We just won the Potato Bowl!
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Posted: 12/20/2011 3:07 PM
                                  "No Bowl For You!"
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Posted: 12/20/2011 3:31 PM
Knowing this was a possibility (and most likely, a probability), I cannot imagine why they did not self-impose it on themselves about halfway through the season once they realized that they were not going to be competing for the national championship.  It would've been a lot easier to miss this year's Gator Bowl for a 6-6 season rather than next year's possible bowl. 
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Posted: 12/20/2011 3:35 PM
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Knowing this was a possibility (and most likely, a probability), I cannot imagine why they did not self-impose it on themselves about halfway through the season once they realized that they were not going to be competing for the national championship.  It would've been a lot easier to miss this year's Gator Bowl for a 6-6 season rather than next year's possible bowl. 

More importantly, it would have punished the kids who committed the violations.  Instead, they get to play in a bowl this year and were permitted to play in last year's bowl.
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Posted: 12/20/2011 3:38 PM
Ozcat wrote:expand_more
Knowing this was a possibility (and most likely, a probability), I cannot imagine why they did not self-impose it on themselves about halfway through the season once they realized that they were not going to be competing for the national championship.  It would've been a lot easier to miss this year's Gator Bowl for a 6-6 season rather than next year's possible bowl. 

More importantly, it would have punished the kids who committed the violations.  Instead, they get to play in a bowl this year and were permitted to play in last year's bowl.


Made me think of Boom Herron, who was suspended for the first 5 games, being named osu Inc.'s MVP at the team banquet last week.
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Posted: 12/20/2011 3:41 PM
I agree, fin. I'm not a big fan of OSU, although I was a fan of Tressel. My sense is that this is a harsh punishment. More importantly, looking forward to seeing Ohio in a big bowl game next year.
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Posted: 12/20/2011 4:29 PM
Brady Hoke: "You mean Ohio can't go back to the Potato Bowl next year?"
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Posted: 12/20/2011 5:09 PM
Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:expand_more
Brady Hoke: "You mean Ohio can't go back to the Potato Bowl next year?"



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Posted: 12/20/2011 7:53 PM
I wonder - If Ohio had been the pick of the Pizza Pizza Bowl, do you think Hoke would have agreed to trade bowls with Purdue so he could have had a shot at that win over Ohio that he wanted so badly?
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Posted: 12/20/2011 7:57 PM
Another slap on the wrist from the NCAA.  Only one of the players involved (Whiting) is an underclassman, so the four seniors will get more post-season gear to hock while the rest of the team will get shafted next year.  They should at least suspend the four seniors who were involved for the Croc(k) Bowl so these guys won't get another second in the national limelight in college. 

I've never had much respect for Fiami(FL), but at least they did the right thing by banning themselves from bowl games this season. 
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Posted: 12/21/2011 2:28 AM
finnOhio wrote:expand_more
Knowing this was a possibility (and most likely, a probability), I cannot imagine why they did not self-impose it on themselves about halfway through the season once they realized that they were not going to be competing for the national championship.  It would've been a lot easier to miss this year's Gator Bowl for a 6-6 season rather than next year's possible bowl. 


Because they're so arrogant, they never thought the NCAA would ban them from a bowl. 
 
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Posted: 12/21/2011 7:38 AM
I hope OSUCKS go undefeated next season.  I would find it hilarious that the Bucknuts would be all hyped up and no place to go.  It would be the the perfect hell for them.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 8:18 AM
I'm three miles from the Shoe and when I went outside this morning the only thing I could hear was a massive whine.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 8:18 AM
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I hope OSUCKS go undefeated next season.  I would find it hilarious that the Bucknuts would be all hyped up and no place to go.  It would be the the perfect hell for them.


I  hope not undefeated. I wouldn't want to see their ugly mugs at the top of the rankings. It would be hilarious if they won the Big Ten Championship game and were denied a Rose Bowl berth. That would be a nice round slap in the face. 
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Posted: 12/21/2011 8:34 AM
They're not eligibile to play in the Big Ten Championship game either.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 9:23 AM
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Knowing this was a possibility (and most likely, a probability), I cannot imagine why they did not self-impose it on themselves about halfway through the season once they realized that they were not going to be competing for the national championship.  It would've been a lot easier to miss this year's Gator Bowl for a 6-6 season rather than next year's possible bowl. 

More importantly, it would have punished the kids who committed the violations.  Instead, they get to play in a bowl this year and were permitted to play in last year's bowl.


Made me think of Boom Herron, who was suspended for the first 5 games, being named osu Inc.'s MVP at the team banquet last week.


Or designating Jordan Hall as a Captain his first game back from suspension...Or painting a huge mural of Tressel weeks after he "retired".

"Integrity" simply is not a word in O$U's vocabulary unless it's being thrown about in press conferences...
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Posted: 12/21/2011 9:26 AM
It's their unabashedly ARROGANCE that got them the bowl ban. They really truly believe that THE B.S.!

Arrogance that they petitioned to have Pryor and the others play in last years Sugar Bowl
Arrogance that they didn't immediately fire Tressel when they learned HE lied about Pryor and the others.
Arrogance in Gorden Gee(k)'s comment of I just hope Coach Tressel doesn't dismiss me
Arrogance in how Gene Smith has handled the entire situation
Arrogance in not self-imposing a completely underserving and worthless season by accepting this years Gator Bowl bid

I still think the selling of the trinkets and tattoo's was much ado about nothing. In watching the Conference raiding whoring and the likes of the Todd Graham's of the world, not to mention the unconceivable events of Penn State, the stench of the BigBoy conferences behavior at levels way beyond the players, is mind boggling.

That THE, in their own arrogance, totally mishandled what could have been an easily manageable situation. How Gee and Smith are still employed for such mishandling doesn't say much about THE Board of Trustees.

That THE is a repeat offender, as stated by the NCAA, is probably lucky that they didn't get really hammered. I'm no THE hater, but I'm certainly not shedding any tears for them.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 9:59 AM
Ozcat wrote:expand_more
Knowing this was a possibility (and most likely, a probability), I cannot imagine why they did not self-impose it on themselves about halfway through the season once they realized that they were not going to be competing for the national championship.  It would've been a lot easier to miss this year's Gator Bowl for a 6-6 season rather than next year's possible bowl. 

More importantly, it would have punished the kids who committed the violations.  Instead, they get to play in a bowl this year and were permitted to play in last year's bowl.


You don't honestly believe Herron, Posey and Hall were the only players "working" for Digeronimo do you?  Or that the few that were busted for accepting "gas money" from the charity were the only ones to do so?

The NCAA COI knows that's not the case too...They just couldn't prove it.  The majority of the incoming class probably won't play in 2012 anyway so they're not truly being punished.

Buckeye Nation is whining about the severity of this ruling.  In reality, O$U skated here mostly because they were smart enough to refuse to disclose the rest of the email communications between Tressel and Sarniak, hiding behind FERPA guidelines.  ESPN still has an open law suit regarding these emails.  The fact that they weren't forced to divulge these is the only thing standing between Failure to Monitor and Lack of Institutional Control (USC) that would have been imposed when it came out that Smith knew all along.  I find it amusing though that Gee's refusal to dismiss Smith (an effort to portray things were still under control) lead to the 2012 bowl ban (had Smith been wise enough to self impose it in 2011 it wouldn't have been enforced for 2012).

I still think the scholarship reductions should have been stiffer but in general they got this one right considering what they had to work with...
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Posted: 12/21/2011 8:05 PM

You can't make some of this stuff up!  Maybe they can get Butch Davis as the recruiting coordinator.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7376122/everett-withers-north-carolina-tar-heels-headed-ohio-state-buckeyes-assistant


 

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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:05 PM
born2bleedgreen wrote:expand_more
Who gives a &*^( this is OU!  We just won the Potato Bowl!


I'm available to re-post the above should any of you feel the need to give a flip about the jr institution in columbus.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:48 AM
First off I wanna say I think all the punishments were pretty much perfect. Except the scholarship stuff, 3 a year is a joke, that will have zero impact as many have stated.

Firing Tressel was solid punishment for him but it really wasn't enough by itself.  He still has a cult following in Columbus and surely could have gotten another job quickly despite the scandal somewhere (See: John Calipari). Tacking on the "show cause" makes him toxic to any other school, and the bowl ban means his cult will all be blaming him come next post-season when State has to sit out. So I think its just a matter of time until his reputation in Columbus is shot. 

I am surprised so many here and even more State fans have the thought that if only they had just self imposed a ban this year life would have been so much better.  Really? I feel like that's a tactic little kids use to try to get out of trouble. "Lets give away something we don't care about and then they can't possibly add to that and take away something we do care about."  The NCAA may be stupid but they aren't that stupid, its blatantly obvious the Gator Bowl means nothing to OSU.  If I was the NCAA I would let them self impose a ban, then ban them next year still.

I get it that it is a shame that innocent players are being punished and the ones that actually created the problems get off but unfortunately there really isn't a good way to punish players, even if you suspend them, they just say screw you I'm going pro anyways.

But if you think about it, these tattoos are two way transactions, and I think the best way to discourage Alumni from giving improper benefits is to punish their alma mater as a whole.  I certainly wouldn't want to be the one responsible for all this if I was a tattoo parlor owner.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 2:36 PM
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It's their unabashedly ARROGANCE that got them the bowl ban. They really truly believe that THE B.S.!

Arrogance that they petitioned to have Pryor and the others play in last years Sugar Bowl
Arrogance that they didn't immediately fire Tressel when they learned HE lied about Pryor and the others.
Arrogance in Gorden Gee(k)'s comment of I just hope Coach Tressel doesn't dismiss me
Arrogance in how Gene Smith has handled the entire situation
Arrogance in not self-imposing a completely underserving and worthless season by accepting this years Gator Bowl bid

I still think the selling of the trinkets and tattoo's was much ado about nothing. In watching the Conference raiding whoring and the likes of the Todd Graham's of the world, not to mention the unconceivable events of Penn State, the stench of the BigBoy conferences behavior at levels way beyond the players, is mind boggling.

That THE, in their own arrogance, totally mishandled what could have been an easily manageable situation. How Gee and Smith are still employed for such mishandling doesn't say much about THE Board of Trustees.

That THE is a repeat offender, as stated by the NCAA, is probably lucky that they didn't get really hammered. I'm no THE hater, but I'm certainly not shedding any tears for them.


I like your use of just the word THE when referring to that institution in Columbus. I'm adopting this.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 8:51 PM
     Maybe the big 10 can have a preliminary game before the league championship game in Indianapolis next December  - osu inc. v. penn st.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:10 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
     Maybe the big 10 can have a preliminary game before the league championship game in Indianapolis next December  - osu inc. v. penn st.


Don't you mean osu Inc. vs State Penn? (bah-dum, pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)
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