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C Money
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Posted: 1/25/2012 1:03 PM
...for making 7 wins the minimum for bowl eligibility.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16996317/growing-belief-seven-wins-should-be-magic-number-for-bowl-eligibility

Probably good for us, since we have been consistently at or above 7 wins the past several years, but bad for the MAC, since we'll probably get squeezed out of our auto-bids. Then again, I don't know if losing guaranteed trips to Detroit or Boise is all that bad.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 3:40 PM
Great idea!  Way too many meaningless bowls now.  No one should ever be playing in a bowl and end up with a losing record.  This would be the first step in a bowl meaning something again.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 4:44 PM
It's hard to predict how it would affect the MAC,  since few MAC teams go bowling at 6-6, while some MAC teams end up staying at home with 7-5 records. The other problem, not mentioned, is that many of the 6-6 teams got to 6-6 with a win over an FCS school, so they were really only 5-6. I might favor seeing them not count FCS wins at all. That, in turn, would cause football powers to significantly reduce FCS games, and pay more for MAC/Sunbelt etc opponents as substitutes for "likely wins".
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Posted: 1/25/2012 10:24 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
It's hard to predict how it would affect the MAC,  since few MAC teams go bowling at 6-6, while some MAC teams end up staying at home with 7-5 records. The other problem, not mentioned, is that many of the 6-6 teams got to 6-6 with a win over an FCS school, so they were really only 5-6. I might favor seeing them not count FCS wins at all. That, in turn, would cause football powers to significantly reduce FCS games, and pay more for MAC/Sunbelt etc opponents as substitutes for "likely wins".


I'd be in favor of six wins against 1A schools.  That way, if they play a 1AA school they have to get seven; eight if they play two.  They could still have the same number of bowls but six-win teams with one win against a 1AA school could be chosen but only after all the legitimate six-plus-win teams were chosen.  That would get MAC-level teams into better bowls and allow some of the lesser bowls to get AQ schools.
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Posted: 1/26/2012 8:59 AM
i am a traditionalist, and traditionally, bowls were a reward for an outstanding season.  That hasn't been the case for years, with teams having 6 or 7 wins getting bids to small time bowls played before half empty stadiums.  If I ruled the football world, the number of bowls would be cut down to to about 15, meaning 30 teams would be bowl eligible, roughly 25% of the entire D-!A football roster.  Bowls would be back to what they were originally meant to be.  More meaningful for both teams and fans...
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Posted: 1/26/2012 9:42 AM
Its my understanding that wins against FCS schools do not count toward bowl eligability in the current system.
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Posted: 1/26/2012 10:44 AM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
i am a traditionalist, and traditionally, bowls were a reward for an outstanding season.  That hasn't been the case for years, with teams having 6 or 7 wins getting bids to small time bowls played before half empty stadiums.  If I ruled the football world, the number of bowls would be cut down to to about 15, meaning 30 teams would be bowl eligible, roughly 25% of the entire D-!A football roster.  Bowls would be back to what they were originally meant to be.  More meaningful for both teams and fans...


Here here!  The current menagerie of bowls renders most of them absolutely meaningless.

 I recently read a book that I picked up in the airport titled "52 Things Kids Need from a  Dad."  In looking through the table of contents the chapter that caught my eye and led me to buy the book was "Kids Need their dad to acknowledge the absurdity of participation trophies."  These silly bowls are kind of like that.
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Posted: 1/26/2012 12:52 PM
As I understand it, a team can count a maximum of one FCS win towards eligibility every other year.
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Posted: 1/26/2012 1:28 PM
So a bowl is going to take a 7-5 Temple team over a 6-6 Penn State team?
Never happen
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Posted: 1/26/2012 5:57 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
As I understand it, a team can count a maximum of one FCS win towards eligibility every other year.
You can count an FCS win every year.
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Posted: 1/27/2012 12:10 AM
If I had my way it'd be 8 wins minimum.
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