If you did that for OUr fine institution what sort of numbers do you get?

In other words, what were our totals for 1992 - 2001?


1982 - 1991?

Let's remember that when you talk about Akron, or those "other 20s", we're living in a glass house...

-john

Ohio is at 43-38.  BG, MU, WMU, BSU and CMU are the others between 41-44 wins.  I did not include Temple since it was only in the conference since 2006.  In that time, though, they have 25 Conference wins!

Look, you have to use some time frame and some objective criteria.  This discussion is NOW and I am not sure the discussion was even ongoing then.  So, I used the figures that were available on that site for the last 10 years.  I think that is a long enough time frame to see if you belong. This is, however, just ONE criteria.  It could be combinedt with others, attendance, graduation numbers, resources spent, etc..  The bottom line is: the powers at be with this conference should use some objective criteria and give notice to the bottom feeders that they need to get with the program or not be surprised if they are shown the door.  Also please note, these are two of those "add ons at the bottom" that I always use as examples of the WRONG way for a conference to expand.

My final comment: love the status quo people who would do NOTHING to improve the current mediocrity and lack of respect of this Conference.  It can be made better by adding at the top or subtracting at the bottom.  My mother always said "you are judged by the company you keep". 

Didn't the MAC try to boot KSU and EMU for football attendance reasons back in the mid-1980s only to be blocked by an EMU lawsuit? Can we just drop a school given our league bylaws, etc.?


 

As for UB...didn't they basically revive football from the dead.  So, after 10 years, the success they had decades earlier and a "new tradition" appear difficult for them to consistently achieve.

Everyone seems to agree on EMU.

Didn't we kick Marshall out in the 70s?  Wasn't Temple kicked out of the big East?  There has to be a way to show the door to those that don't contribute.

WARNING: A SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC RANT FOLLOWS

This was justified. What was not justified was the rebuff Marshall received a few years later (post crash) when they attempted to re-join the MAC and were voted down after being given every indication that their request was going to be honored.  This slap in the face is the major reason some Herd fans have such a disdain for the MAC, at least those who are 55+ in age.  Many in that age group consider their departure to C-USA "pay back."  Though my Ohio green is my dominant strain, my Marshall green understands this at a gut level.  Yes, it was a gut wrenching period to live through.  It was like a sucker punch to the solar plexus just as you are trying to stand up after recovering from a knock-out blow.  That's not a great analogy, but it's the best that I can do at the moment.  Somewhere I have the results of a survey we conducted shortly after this rebuff that was published in the student newspaper (The Parthenon).  The raw emotions revealed were not at all surprising given the circumstances.  Ohio, unfortunately, played a key role in the negative vote to prevent Marshall 's return at that time.  It was very shameful. 

Being around OHIO in 1971 I remeber some of this. No matter what the reasons, Marshall was asked to leave the MAC and did not get acceptance at some point in time.  Bottom line is this is 2012 and that was all about 40 years ago.  None of those decision mnakers are around now and people should be looking at what is best for their institution(s) today and not at pay backs!