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Posted: 9/30/2011 10:41 PM
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First of all, I want to thank the Walter family for their most generous donation to the University to make the facility possible.  It has been donations such as this and in the past by Jody Galbraith Phillips that have contributed to the success we have enjoyed the past couple of years.


Amen, Bro!  I'm glad that you have mentioned Jody.  We should never forget all that she did for Ohio athletics.  As I understand it she gave the bulk of the funds for the permanent lights at Peden and also for the replacement turf when the original artificial turf at Peden had to be replaced after only a few years of use.  She also was a strong supporter of the College of Osteopathic Medicine.  Great Ohio lady!


Finally some sense.

Thank goodness Carl stays up past 10:30.
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Posted: 10/1/2011 8:51 AM
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Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:expand_more
First of all, I want to thank the Walter family for their most generous donation to the University to make the facility possible.  It has been donations such as this and in the past by Jody Galbraith Phillips that have contributed to the success we have enjoyed the past couple of years.

I noticed the brochure said this facility would provide a full-length field.  They mentioned the demensions of the field would be 130 x 390 feet.  However, the width of a regulation football field is 160 feet.  I know that each square foot is very expensive and am not sure if other schools have a field that is not regulation width.





Chip,

Maybe the operative word is full-length, not full-width. 
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Posted: 10/1/2011 11:10 AM
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I realize most of the practices are still going to be outside, but it does change pass routes a bit.  Still very excited about the facility and hope it helps with all of the sports who utilize it.
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Posted: 10/1/2011 11:09 PM
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Would be nice if it had an indoor track that all the teams could use for year-round conditioning, not to mention the track team for home meets, and maybe even host the MAC Champs at some point.

Put that as a feature and I will donate immediately.
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Posted: 10/2/2011 1:41 AM
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OUbobcat9092 wrote:expand_more
Would be nice if it had an indoor track that all the teams could use for year-round conditioning, not to mention the track team for home meets, and maybe even host the MAC Champs at some point.

Put that as a feature and I will donate immediately.
It's a cost thing -- would increase the cost quite dramatically (though I'm sure they'd do it if you donated enough to cover the difference!!).
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Posted: 10/2/2011 12:14 PM
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Would be nice if it had an indoor track that all the teams could use for year-round conditioning, not to mention the track team for home meets, and maybe even host the MAC Champs at some point.

Put that as a feature and I will donate immediately.
It's a cost thing -- would increase the cost quite dramatically (though I'm sure they'd do it if you donated enough to cover the difference!!).


The committee's recommendation was for a regulation size indoor track which would have also made the football field regulation width.  The cost of all of that was $16 million vs the $11 million for this facility.  Not sure that they would donate the $5 million difference but there are a significant number of folks who identified with and supported track who would be more likely to give if that was a feature of this facility.
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Posted: 10/2/2011 2:38 PM
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Why don't we put a few solar cells on roof and ask the guvmint for $500 million?
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Posted: 10/2/2011 3:00 PM
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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Why don't we put a few solar cells on roof and ask the guvmint for $500 million?


Monroe, you might be onto something! 
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Posted: 10/6/2011 8:18 PM
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Well I got the call from developement tonight regarding the new multi-purpose center. The young man ask me if I would donate $200 and I said yes. I went onto tell him I wanted to do the 5 year $200 a year for a total of $1000 towards the project and he had no idea what I was talking about. After speaking to his supervisor he said they would put me down for it aa soon as they investigated that option. I has already made up my mind I was going to support this project at this level. It will be a great recruiting tool!
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Posted: 10/7/2011 8:33 AM
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Gallia Cat wrote:expand_more
Well I got the call from developement tonight regarding the new multi-purpose center. The young man ask me if I would donate $200 and I said yes. I went onto tell him I wanted to do the 5 year $200 a year for a total of $1000 towards the project and he had no idea what I was talking about. After speaking to his supervisor he said they would put me down for it aa soon as they investigated that option. I has already made up my mind I was going to support this project at this level. It will be a great recruiting tool!


LOL that is hilarious and disappointing as well, you would have thought that they would have the same forms available that many of us have received in our brochures.
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Posted: 10/7/2011 11:13 AM
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why, why, why is there no IMMEDIATE "donate now" link on ANY of the webpages having to do with the center? 


Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!! 

Drives me crazy.  Instead of calling my land line asking for a donation while I'm putting my kids to bed, send me an email with a link to put in my credit card info.....  (Yes I still have a land line...)

Anyway, I do like the communication pieces I've received in the mail.  And, I'll likely be doing the $200 per year thing.

What does $200 per year x 5 years x every bobcattack.com poster = ?
Last Edited: 10/7/2011 11:16:05 AM by Ohio69
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Posted: 10/7/2011 3:21 PM
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Again, I think they don't want to be collecting people's credit card numbers due to the past and very obvious issues with data security.  Additionally, they might believe they can get donors to give more through a more personal approach.



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Posted: 10/7/2011 10:55 PM
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Again, I think they don't want to be collecting people's credit card numbers due to the past and very obvious issues with data security.  Additionally, they might believe they can get donors to give more through a more personal approach.





It's 2011.  If data security cannot be achieved, then I doubt we have adequate security for cash and bank accounts.  I mean, you gotta be kidding.

Also, uh, it might make some sense to GET THE MONEY NOW.  Which does not foreclose a follow-up 'thank you' phone call in which further donation can be sought.

You're kidding, right?
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Posted: 10/8/2011 7:59 AM
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Well Monroe, perhaps (or assuredly) your synapses are permanently damaged from the days whenb you were campaigning under the "Party Naked" banner (some student, huh?) in the 1970s, but our alma mater does have problems securing data.  Why, just a few years ago, we were on the national news for a network security breach of astounding proportions.

And, yes, there are others who know a hell of a lot more than you about (everything?) raising money.  So I would be more inclined to trust them than you.

Now if you'd like to PM me again to tell me that your feelijngs are hurt, please do so at your earliest convenience.
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Posted: 10/8/2011 2:58 PM
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Naw, my feelings aren't hurt in any way.  You express your opinion in a reasonable manner, more or less.  I just think that you're rather a pessimist, are willing to be stuck in a less-than-satisfactory reality, and don't present a reasonably objective view of the facts.  If you want to dispute the governance of 1976-77 (I don't; it's ancient history), you should at least do some reading and/or interviewing and see how we were regarded.  Blanket slam; easy.  Reasonable representation pf the truth--a bit more difficult and fair.
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:55 AM
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You can call me a pessimist all you like, Monroe, but you've conveniently ignored the point of this argument - you indicated it's easy to ensure data security in this day and age and that the lack of a "buy now" button is a big mistake.  I pointed out that we have a very bad record of data protection and that I believe the university has been appropriately reluctant to start letting disparate departments collect this type of information and accept donations online.  All donations must be consistent with the Ohio University Foundation's process requirements - they run the show on this, not the AD.

And on another point, you have had a rather irritating tendency of late to jump into discussions with simple statements like, "end this thread...focus on Buffalo," etc.  Like no one else is allowed to have discussions that don't align with your (very simplistic) view of things.  Take a look at your last 10 or 20 posts on this site to see what I mean.  They remind me of the episode of "The Office" when Michael Scott ruins his improv class by "contributing" "Halt, FBI!" to each scene. Childish.


 
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:54 AM
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Another factor may be that the money collectors on payroll must have their existence justified and that to have multiple desks performing similar tasks is an inefficiency that can't be afforded.
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Posted: 10/9/2011 12:50 PM
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Pete Chouteau wrote:expand_more
Another factor may be that the money collectors on payroll must have their existence justified and that to have multiple desks performing similar tasks is an inefficiency that can't be afforded.


Good point.  Further, let me point out that it's very easy to pay a firm to set up all your online payments -- ticket purchases, Ohio gear purchases, donations, etc.  These firms take care of the security issues and the best of them do an extremely good job of it.  Of course, they take a percent or two and that reduces the per transaction take, but overall I think the increased number of transactions would offset the increased cost.  But, as you point out, a few folks might lose their jobs at Ohio, or have to be assigned to other tasks, which might require learning new skills.
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Posted: 10/10/2011 11:15 AM
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Is this thing a done deal or do they need some level of commitment to move forward? How much will the project cost?

It appears to me to be only for football, even as the brochure says it will have multiple uses for the students and community. How realistic is that with only a regular sized football field with goal posts? We already have Ping and Grover, although I'm not sure what Grover is actually used for these days. Do we really need this facility? To prepare for Gardner Webb and Eastern Michigan? Unless we are using this as a springboard to upgrade the football program, which means we had better have even more dollars committed after completion, this could be a white elephant.
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It's needed and it's happening.  $8 million, perhaps more, of the $11 million total has already been raised.  I just wish they would expand the project to include a track and other amenities.  As a point of comparison, our facility as currently configured will be less than half the size of Akron's, Kent's and BG's.










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Posted: 10/10/2011 12:56 PM
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Schaus was on during the Buffalo broadcast and made it sound like the actual project depended upon how much money was raised. What's not clear to me is what the $11M buys. And how much more would be needed for a full-sized field, track, etc. If those items aren't that much more expensive than $11M, I would prefer to wait until the funds are in place to add them.
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Posted: 10/10/2011 1:05 PM
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I was told a track raises the price to $15-16mm.  The $11 million version is what you see in the sketch and the square footage specifications in the news release.  No locker rooms, for example - just 2 restrooms.  Very few bells & whistles.


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Posted: 10/10/2011 1:07 PM
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I was told the 11M gets us the current plan...full length football field, shorter width, running lanes, netting for baseball/softball, etc.  That number is based on what university facilities calculate the building to realistically cost.  Until they raise the 11M, they cannot start the bidding process.

Walter gave $10M with 8M going to the IPF and the other 2M going to Convo renovations, of which, 200K is being put to use right now re-doing the athletic training facilities...which were very sub-standard.  The remaining 1.8M is currently under review for what investments and improvements they want to make in the Convo.
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Posted: 10/10/2011 7:16 PM
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It's needed and it's happening.  $8 million, perhaps more, of the $11 million total has already been raised.  I just wish they would expand the project to include a track and other amenities.  As a point of comparison, our facility as currently configured will be less than half the size of Akron's, Kent's and BG's.









I've been in BG's and they do not have a full football field or a track. It's also part of the student center with basketball courts in the same facility.
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Posted: 10/10/2011 8:34 PM
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That would be news to BGSU and the MAC, since they hosted the indoor track championship a couple of times.
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