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Posted: 9/16/2012 3:29 AM
From a relatively small but more thoughtful Marshall board:

http://theherdgrapevine.yuku.com/topic/4011/CUSA-worst-DI...
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Posted: 9/16/2012 9:16 AM
THat post  would be shredded if they posted that over on Terd Nation. ....and on BA.our own penchant with leaving the MAC notwithstanding.. I do agree with them that C USA is currently a dead conference and an extreme financial burden to carry when you factor in transprotation for the minor sports balanced with increased TV revenue.

I am a bit taken aback by the view they have on the "xubsidies" OUr teams receive. Interesting view for sure. 65%?

ALl this info from a man with a BMW Isetta as an avatar....may be the original smart car but clinging to that as an identity is just a bit eccentric.

GOod find and thoguht provoking. Ding Dong ....C USA....is dead....put a fork in it.....and do not let them back in the MAC...as much as they talk about the dead weight in the MAC it was not like they came in and just dominated and had dynasties on many sports while they were members........egocentric steaming piles.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 9:49 AM
Believe me.  The meeting of all Herd fans who want back in the MAC could be held in a phone booth.  It's all about the Benjamins.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 10:13 AM
Greenhawk wrote:expand_more
I will make this prediction today: over the course of the next decade, the MAC will outperform either the Sunbelt or the reconstituted CUSA where it counts the most - on the field of play. I can only hope that Marshall's athletic success will not mirror that dire course. 


I think this poster may be right. I hope he is. I just don't see how CUSA can be economically viable with the kind of travel they require for in-conference games. And the luster of that conference has certainly been tarnished recently with the defections.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 10:25 AM
From Graham Watson's Week 3 Winners and Losers column (the Losers section):

Conference USA: While Conference USA won some games this weekend, it didn't get the signature win for which it was hoping and Houston and SMU both were blown out. Marshall had a chance to beat Ohio and ruin its dream of a perfect season, but fell short. After Western Kentucky's by win over Kentucky, Conference USA becomes the worst conference in the country.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 12:35 PM
Billy Mack wrote:expand_more
Believe me.  The meeting of all Herd fans who want back in the MAC could be held in a phone booth.  It's all about the Benjamins.


Ding Ding, we have a winner. The vast majority of MU fans have no desire to be in the Mac. The only reason we rejoined when we come back to 1-A was the Mac was our only option. A couple of the posters on the Grapevine knocking CUSA are not even MU grads, just guys in Huntington that are fans or season ticket holders. By the way, I am not trying to demean the Mac. Marshall didn't build a 38,000 plus stadium to be in the Mac.

The natives are getting restless with the current football coach. MU only has five seniors on the team, but it is Doc's third year. The loss to wvu really hurt. We finally get a schedule with them, but we are in a down cycle and they are in a up cycle. Their QB is the best one we will face all year by far. Hell, they put 70 points on Clemson last year.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 12:38 PM
I personally like our bowl tie-ins better, along with our basketball all around.

I mean if we can play the top two teams in the MAC OOC and play our CUSA schedule, I'm fine with it.

I just have no desire to see Marshall vs Akron or a directional Michigan in November.

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Posted: 9/16/2012 12:51 PM
MAC has a much better TV deal, that's got to be worth something.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 1:13 PM
Did Marshall not receive NCAA sanctions for each year they were in the MAC?  C-USA was for a short time a great league.  The 2013 version is nothing but a bunch of former 1-AA conversions.  Southern Miss, ECU and Marshall are the new marque programs.  I ll take the MAC any day over the new 2013 C-USA which I can't see lasting too long in its present state.  

Miami finished football in the Top 10 and OU and Kent proved it can be done in bball.  The best option for either Ohio or Marshall to move up is a new league.  

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Posted: 9/16/2012 1:54 PM
Marshall wants to be bigger time in football and maybe hoops. I get that. But what you're seing in that there are a whole lotta schools ahead of them that don't want to be passed by Marshall. These conference situations are now fluid and you've got to be like Machievelli with a chest of gold to stay ahead and leapfrog. Like a Herd poster said, I don't like playing Michigan directional schools in November either, but we're doing okay in the MAC.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 2:13 PM

Conference alignments seem to still be in flux so who knows what will happen...Will the mega conferences hold?

But I gotta think that from an academic and financial and fan/geographical and sports success point of view that the MAC will hold and is a decent place for Ohio.  That is, a team at the top of the MAC has decent platform for athletic success.  The top MAC team gets notice.  Yes, playing the bottom six MAC teams brings no luster--but does it work financially for us to aspire higher?

Of course, I may be way off base...but it seems to work somewhat here.

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Posted: 9/16/2012 9:46 PM
To me CUSA clearly looks like the worst conference in 1A and it isn't going to get any better when the programs that the Big East wanted leave and are replaced with some schools that just started football.  Bascially, the Big East looks a lot like CUSA from 10 years ago.  The other 4 1A leagues are going to be awful for a long time.

I don't know about Marshall but from Ohio's perspective leaving the MAC for CUSA, if ever offered would, IMO, be truely insane.  It might lead to short term more bowl revenue but the league is just as bad right now and scattered and unstable.  IMO, if they made the decision to do that they would have to be rock hard stupid.  If that offer ever did happen its just to be stopgap for an unstable league in flux.

New Mexico State and Idaho left the Sunbelt for the WAC.  Now the WAC doesn't exist and the Sunbelt won't take them back.
Last Edited: 9/16/2012 10:28:34 PM by Victory
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Posted: 9/16/2012 10:57 PM
Victory wrote:expand_more
Bascially, the Big East looks a lot like CUSA from 10 years ago. 


That's because the Big East is CUSA from 10 years ago, plus Temple.
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