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Posted: 10/1/2012 1:21 PM
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After the game, I had a myriad of thoughts run through my head.  All of the problems on defense were a glaring concern, our injuries piling up this season are concerning me more than that.  Beating UMASS by 3 looks on paper to be a disaster of a showing, despite the fact we won.

But I was kinda glad that they gave us a game.  Of course, it gives coaches more to work on this week in practice to get corrected.  The biggest thing though, was that they proved they can play any team in the conference.  They're going to be a two win program, maybe three at max, but we need the bottom of the MAC to start making strides or the conferences perception will continue to be bad.  We're not going to the Big East, Big Ten, or ACC anytime soon.  CUSA would be a step sideways, maybe slightly backward.  So the best bet is to see the MAC start to gain steam.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 2:38 PM
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I've always said the MAC is judged by its bottom teams, not its top teams. The top teams in the MAC are good enough to compete with any team in the country not in the top 15 or so. But the bottom teams in the MAC are usually worse than any team in any conference. If we can get Akron, EMU, UB and UMass to become mediocre it will help the MAC alot. I feel Akron and UMass are on the right path, the other two, not so much.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:22 PM
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Well this year seems to be an exception as lightly regarded MAC weakling CMU beats middle of B1G pack Iowa at home.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:34 PM
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OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Well this year seems to be an exception as lightly regarded MAC weakling CMU beats middle of B1G pack Iowa at home.


You're absolutely right.  Still, when Akron, EMU, and eventually UMASS start to look better (Miami is on the verge of being those teams) we'll look even stronger as a conference.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:39 PM
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I'm  not sure that's what is necessary. Every conference has a couple of weak teams. What the MAC needs is consistent front runners, teams that dominate annually for multiple years, and also do well against non-conference teams. The trouble with the MAC is, the contenders change too often, leaving no high-impact program that defines the conference. OU has the opportunity to take that position.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:44 PM
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Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
I'm  not sure that's what is necessary. Every conference has a couple of weak teams. What the MAC needs is consistent front runners, teams that dominate annually for multiple years, and also do well against non-conference teams. The trouble with the MAC is, the contenders change too often, leaving no high-impact program that defines the conference. OU has the opportunity to take that position.


Agreed. It's the same for basketball as well.  Kent has been good (not great) for a nice long stretch but nobody else has taken the mantle.  We need a program (NIU, Toledo or us) to take that next step in football and stay that way.  
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Posted: 10/1/2012 7:12 PM
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Much of the sentiment on the board after the game stems from the fact that many think UMass is the worst team in college football.

If they surprised us I see no reason for them not to surprise someone else.  They have a QB who can throw.....a WR who can play on Sundays....and a RB who can run.

Let's get healthy.

Let's wake up to the fact that  no season is a cake walk.  If we get healthy and have another game like this then we can whine.....well....wait....we won didn't we.

Want some cheese with that whine.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 7:15 PM
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I'm for building up the bottom-feeders so long as it isn't at the expense of everybody else.  One or two players isn't going to make a difference to most of the perennial also-rans; they'll need at least 8-10, which could undermine the efforts of other MAC schools.  We need to have them turn down CUSA, Sun Belt, Big Least, etc. instead of choosing one MAC school over another.  You need to draw talent into the MAC, not spread around the pool of recruits that's already there.  Solich has done that well here; Bowden might be able to do it at Akron based on his reputation; Molnar might be able to do it at UMass because of geographics.  Problem is the MAC teams too often have to recruit against one another (not saying they shouldn't, just that it happens out of necessity) so the overall talent levels stay pretty much the same.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 7:37 PM
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I also wonder how many whiners actually watched the game.

"Well...their QB is a true freshman and he went into
the game with  no TD's and 4 ints."

Yes that's true....BUT DID YOU WATCH THE FRIGGIN GAME?

The kid is 6'5"-220 and throws darts....no pressure equals dart time....and for some reason we had no pressure on him....not sure why....and I'm not whinin....just confused.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 9:41 PM
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OUVan wrote:expand_more
We need a program (NIU, Toledo or us) to take that next step in football and stay that way.
The is only one choice for the defining MAC institution.

Ohio is the only founding member remaining in the Conference (although some think Fiami was).

We regularly out-draw all of the other schools in the major men's sports, and we clearly have the most beautiful campus.

Nevermind the visibility the 110 brings us on a national basis..

Only a little biased,
-john
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Posted: 10/1/2012 9:45 PM
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oucs 1986 wrote:expand_more
We need a program (NIU, Toledo or us) to take that next step in football and stay that way.


The is only one choice for the defining MAC institution.

Ohio is the only founding member remaining in the Conference (although some think Fiami was).

We regularly out-draw all of the other schools in the major men's sports, and we clearly have the most beautiful campus.

Nevermind the visibility the 110 brings us on a national basis..

Only a little biased,
-john


That means a lot to me and you....not so sure anyone else gives a rats arse about how OUr campus looks.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 9:50 PM
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Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
We need a program (NIU, Toledo or us) to take that next step in football and stay that way.


The is only one choice for the defining MAC institution.

Ohio is the only founding member remaining in the Conference (although some think Fiami was).

We regularly out-draw all of the other schools in the major men's sports, and we clearly have the most beautiful campus.

Nevermind the visibility the 110 brings us on a national basis..

Only a little biased,
-john


That means a lot to me and you....not so sure anyone else gives a rats arse about how OUr campus looks.
It helps when you're looking for the "face" of the conference.

-j
Last Edited: 10/1/2012 9:51:19 PM by oucs 1986
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Posted: 10/1/2012 10:30 PM
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Doc Bobcat wrote:expand_more
We need a program (NIU, Toledo or us) to take that next step in football and stay that way.


The is only one choice for the defining MAC institution.

Ohio is the only founding member remaining in the Conference (although some think Fiami was).

We regularly out-draw all of the other schools in the major men's sports, and we clearly have the most beautiful campus.

Nevermind the visibility the 110 brings us on a national basis..

Only a little biased,
-john


That means a lot to me and you....not so sure anyone else gives a rats arse about how OUr campus looks.

I think it varies person to person, but there will certainly be recruits and outsiders who find it very important.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 10:36 PM
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It matters to McDavis, too. There is a push from Cutler Hall to work on beautifying the campus. The grounds need to look like they did 20 years ago. I know it costs money, but the campus is a gem and needs to be maintained.
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