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Posted: 10/7/2012 7:48 AM
This is not your uncle's old Akron.  Like Ohio, Akron is now competently coached and will be getting better week to week.  Might help if when we think about the next oponent we think "coach Bowden's team".  "Akron" makes one think of a team likely to lose, the other not so much.  Let us respect this oponent.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 8:07 AM
I've heard this staff referred to as "FSU North." Bowden-Bowden-Amato-Buckley. This staff is "the deal."
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Posted: 10/7/2012 11:07 AM
Could Akron be Ohio circa 2005?  That was one team no one ever wanted to overlook.  Akron could very well be the real deal-good news is Coach Solich knows that too and I'm sure he'll make darn sure no one on the team overlooks Akron.  That being said, the next game sure is no gimme.  I don't think there are any gimmies left on the schedule, quite frankly.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 11:23 AM
They're better than they were, BUT they're still Akron.  They haven't beaten a 1A team this year, although they've been close a couple times.  I'm sure the most-watched film this week will be their game yesterday.  BGSUcks held them to 10 pts and shut them out in the 2nd half, first time they'd been shut out for a half since their opening game.  Don't know what the Falcons did, but I'm sure we'll try to emulate it.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 11:32 AM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
Could Akron be Ohio circa 2005?  ...

Very much so. They have real coaches now, and they are already much improved. Just as Ohio had a few good players in 2005, but not enough, and not enough depth, Akron must face the same issues.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 11:34 AM
Fun little sidelight to the game is that Akron's Chuck Amato and OUr Dwayne Dixon coached together at NC State -- just before Dwayne came to Athens.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 11:46 AM
Why do you think Ohio would be overlooking anyone?  Statistically blown out in two games (one at home) against low win teams--saved from loses in both by ability to make BIG plays when needed.  If UA was coached by a CYO dad they are still capable of a win in Athens on Homecoming.

Time to start steam rolling again.  Dual threat QB to run the offense not a single threat guy in a dual threat system.  Ohio cannot change what talent is available on their defense.  The offense has to carry the load and take back TOP, number of plays and grind out those yards.  Everyone and anyone can score on Ohio so the offense and special teams have to be the "X" factor in controlling Ohio's destiny.  WVU is our mirror image of outscoring the other guy.

Go Bobcats beat UofA!
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Posted: 10/7/2012 12:19 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
They're better than they were, BUT they're still Akron.  They haven't beaten a 1A team this year, although they've been close a couple times.  I'm sure the most-watched film this week will be their game yesterday.  BGSUcks held them to 10 pts and shut them out in the 2nd half, first time they'd been shut out for a half since their opening game.  Don't know what the Falcons did, but I'm sure we'll try to emulate it.


According to this morning's Beacon Journal, during the second half, BG amped up the pressure on Akron QB Dalton Smith, sacked him 4 times and limited him to something like 35 yards  - after giving up 200 or so in the first half. 
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Posted: 10/7/2012 1:10 PM
MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
Why do you think Ohio would be overlooking anyone?  Statistically blown out in two games (one at home) against low win teams--saved from loses in both by ability to make BIG plays when needed.  If UA was coached by a CYO dad they are still capable of a win in Athens on Homecoming.

Time to start steam rolling again.  Dual threat QB to run the offense not a single threat guy in a dual threat system.  Ohio cannot change what talent is available on their defense.  The offense has to carry the load and take back TOP, number of plays and grind out those yards.  Everyone and anyone can score on Ohio so the offense and special teams have to be the "X" factor in controlling Ohio's destiny.  WVU is our mirror image of outscoring the other guy.

Go Bobcats beat UofA!

Hey MC, I think you just scored BINGO! Probably the most distressing aspect of the moment is that T2 clearly has something physically preventing him from being himself, which is causing the offense some hiccups. The D is just a mess -- it's been "mess-idated" by injuries. And the kicking game is so all over the place I'm finding myself holding my breath on PAT kicks despite having a really great foot!
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Posted: 10/7/2012 1:17 PM
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According to this morning's Beacon Journal, during the second half, BG amped up the pressure on Akron QB Dalton Smith, sacked him 4 times and limited him to something like 35 yards  - after giving up 200 or so in the first half. 


Mike, I watched the second half. BG opted to run the ball instead of throw, and they ate clock and Zippy after trailing 10-zip at halftime.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 1:47 PM
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According to this morning's Beacon Journal, during the second half, BG amped up the pressure on Akron QB Dalton Smith, sacked him 4 times and limited him to something like 35 yards  - after giving up 200 or so in the first half. 


Mike, I watched the second half. BG opted to run the ball instead of throw, and they ate clock and Zippy after trailing 10-zip at halftime.


Be interesting to see Ohio's game plan next week. 

Love to see TT run at least a couple times to widen the holes for the RBs.  Yesterday TT lofted at least 4 passes out of bounds to avoid running - or a bad throw. 
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Posted: 10/7/2012 1:49 PM
Homecoming... forecast 70 and sunny.....sold out Peden....#26 in AP poll....... a win all but guarantees a top 25 spot with #22 and #23 playing each other next week......lost on homecoming last year.... SI Article comes out next week....Akron fired up......

could a game against AKRON??? be the game of the century for Ohio?
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Posted: 10/7/2012 4:11 PM


Things are changing in Akron. A while back he would have been holding a cheeseburger from Swenson's.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 4:55 PM
Per news article, one of Akron's more serious weaknesses is a lack of depth on the defensive line. That could be a problems for them next week.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 9:26 PM
OHIO -19.5
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Posted: 10/7/2012 9:37 PM
When I watched them against Tennessee, their ends seemed scrawny. I would think Ohio's tackles would be able to overpower them. It would be nice to get Tettleton through this week and to the bye with minimum dropbacks/exposure and let Blankenship and Boykin rack up big yards. With as banged up as the defense is, limiting the amount of snaps they take can't be bad, either.

I'd love a 28-7 type of game where Ohio grinds them down.

That bye week has to look like an oasis sitting out there  right now. Just get there unbeaten.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 12:41 AM
Based on the last two weeks, take BG and the points.  Just not sure we can stop anybody and if they have the ball enough to throw 50 times it will be a lot closer than 19.5!  Another dog fight.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 9:36 AM
Interesting conundrum: if our offenseruns hurry-up, or even if they're just their normal selves, we'll probably be scoring in bunches, after short drives (as in just a couple of plays). Likewise, if the defense/return game preforms like it did for much of the UB game, we could be facing many short fields: at halftime of the UB game our average starting position was something like the enemy 43 yard line. In short, I could easily see another occassion where we "lose" the time of possession battle and have many fewer yards than our opponents, and its not necessarily a bad thing:

Time of possession: regardless of how long you take between snaps, if it only takes you a couple of plays to score, you're not going to have the ball for very long, and thats a good thing. NOT COUNTING the kick return for a TD, we had scoring drives of 1 play (14 yards), 1 play (15 yards), 6 plays (32 yards), 11 plays (65 yards), and 2 plays (55 yards) (all stats taken from ESPN's box score). Obviously the 11 play scoring drive was good for controling the clock, but the others are going to get the team back on the field quickly. Its one thing to control the clock, but you're not going to ask the running backs to take a knee after 10 yards to better control the clock. This is frequently a problem for high speed quick strike teams like Oregon

Yardage: We only had 333 offensive yards, but tack on another 150 kick return yards as well as the turnover recoveries and we had pretty good field position throughout, which is going to subtract directly from the O's total production, ESPECIALLY when the other team has 56 rushing attempts and 30 first downs. This was especially acute when our defense was bending heavily (not quite breaking, but damn we're banged up).
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Posted: 10/8/2012 9:59 AM

We don't much run the hurry-up.  We run no-huddle.  For true hurry-up see Oregon.

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Posted: 10/8/2012 10:45 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more

We don't much run the hurry-up.  We run no-huddle.  For true hurry-up see Oregon.



We haven't run hurry-up of late. The first two weeks of the season, we ran it extensively, especially in the second half of the Penn State game, I think especially when we got what we felt was a favorable assortment of defensive players on the field.
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