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Posted: 10/7/2012 4:14 PM
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I just don't think Sagarins tell you that much either, even when "well-connected".  Example is last year, when Temple had a notably better Sagarin rating than all the other MAC schools, including NIU. Now, they beat Ball State by a lot and we only beat them by a little. They also had a close loss against Penn State. But they lost to 3 different teams that NIU beat. I guess that isn't included anywhere in the rating.  I think the margin of victory was weighed too heavily.

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Posted: 10/7/2012 8:05 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
I don't think there is as much historical bias as you think. I believe they will be "well connected" after one more week, and I don't expect significant changes.

The teams are now well connected, and there is no significant change. The current ratings show that Ohio dropped from 30 to 35 in Elo-Chess, and from 72 to 76 in predictor, where the rating fell from 69.9 to 68.6. Ohio now trails both NIU and Toledo in Predictor by a small amount.

Realistically, with as many players injured as they have, Ohio is not nearly the team they were at the beginning of the season. The predictor reflects that better than the Elo-Chess ratings.


The EloChess has at Sagarin's website (http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm) has us at #22, rating at 70.36, #66 overall
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Posted: 10/7/2012 10:00 PM
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It still amazes me that North Dakota State is ranked #37 with a 185th rated schedule. I know they are 5-0 and have some decent wins like Colorado State, Northern Iowa, and Youngstown State, but I think #37 is definitely a stretch!

Northern Iowa supposedly has the nations 13 toughest schedule? They are 1-4 against that schedule with their ONLY win being against Central State and they are #95. Ahead of 9 MAC Teams. The only MAC teams higher are NIU, Ohio, Toledo, and WMU. For a team with their ONLY win against Central State that is absurd! Central State is 2-4 with their wins coming against Urbana and William Jewel College. They lost to Missouri University of Science and Technology, Saint Joseph's College, and Stillman College. Basically Northern Iowa has no quality wins and they are #95 and 13th toughest schedule.

Maybe the computers don't lie, but common sense tells me they aren't always accurate and tell the whole picture.
I concur.

Also, the MAC remains the nation's worst BCS conference... We seem to have hurt the Big Ten, Instead of helping us.

-john
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