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Posted: 10/18/2012 6:50 PM
We're leading the MAC in average attendance and percentage of capacity (I think UMass they used the capacity of their stadium in Amherst).
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Posted: 10/18/2012 7:31 PM
Im trying to figure out how USF calculates their Percentage as well.  I know that they play at the Bucs Stadium, and it is nowhere near full...
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Posted: 10/18/2012 9:23 PM
It's kind of amazing how Iowa and Notre Dame, through 4 games managed to hit exactly their stadium capacity, to the person. Do you suppose they just don't bother counting, and record every game as an exact sellout? Nah.... It's probably just an amazing coincidence that out of just under 300,000 people they both hit the perfect attendance exactly.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 9:32 PM
I have no problem believing that they SOLD every ticket.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 8:47 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
It's kind of amazing how Iowa and Notre Dame, through 4 games managed to hit exactly their stadium capacity, to the person. Do you suppose they just don't bother counting, and record every game as an exact sellout? Nah.... It's probably just an amazing coincidence that out of just under 300,000 people they both hit the perfect attendance exactly.


Have you ever been to Notre Dame Stadium? There's really not much room for anything but capacity. They pack 'em in like sardines there. I like to think of it as a smaller version of Michigan's Big House. At least at Michigan they let you spread your legs and extend your arms a bit.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 9:29 AM
and the most amazing thing is not one person missed even one game, so that the attendance exactly matched the rated capacity.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 10:11 AM
I'm not really close to what's going on in the halls of Ohio U. and in the administration that a lot of you are.  This year we're averaging pretty much at capacity and even in our darkest years since the expansion of Peden Stadium to 24,000 we've probably averaged 80% of capacity.  Are there any plans being drawn up for further expansion?  It seems to me that there's sufficient economic justification for a small expansion (say an additional 5,000 or so).  I was just curious.  If there are no such plans, I think a tremendous opportunity's being wasted.
Last Edited: 10/19/2012 10:13:19 AM by Mark Lembright '85
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Posted: 10/19/2012 10:17 AM
If we ever plan on expanding, the time is now.  

People say we need to do this for a couple more years... Why?
Besides standing, students are also being kicked out of the student section to the hill because there simply isn't enough room.  Besides getting into Peden, you now must go early as a student not to guarantee a good seat, but to just guarantee a seat.  I like a packed hill, but the hill is already full and this is still happening...  Bump it up 10,000.  
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Posted: 10/19/2012 10:43 AM
The current setup is a logistical nightmare as well.  I didn't really notice how bad it was until I was down on the field with the alumni band, and it took us and the 110 a solid 20 minutes to get from the field up into the stands.  Bottleneck traffic everywhere.  Once I did get to my seat, I sat and watched the same person try to get from one end of the stadium to the other and it took them probably 10 minutes.  Even a small expansion, or rebuilding the student side to make it easier to access would suffice at this point.  Better to take care of it now before we are having bigger problems down the road. 
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Posted: 10/19/2012 10:48 AM
Why on Earth should Ohio spend money to increase seating when the value of the seat is as low as $4 per game?

When every ticket in the house is worth $30, let's talk.

We're not even close to needing stadium expansion.

That being said, our efforts to get bodies in the door at rock bottom prices are being matched by almost every other conference member, and none of them are having our success in making it happen.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 10:51 AM
Stadium improvements>>>>stadium expansion.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 11:36 AM
Stadium improvements are a must, if an expansion (small) can be made then that's fine.  We do need to improve what we have.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 11:44 AM
If you don't want to talk stadium expansion, how about we open up more seating for students? Students are showing up and being turned away.  

Students don't pay for tickets? Well they do pay a couple grand in tuition...
Last Edited: 10/19/2012 11:44:50 AM by The Optimist
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Posted: 10/19/2012 12:04 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
If you don't want to talk stadium expansion, how about we open up more seating for students? Students are showing up and being turned away.  

Students don't pay for tickets? Well they do pay a couple grand in tuition...


This happen other than homecoming?


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Posted: 10/19/2012 1:20 PM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
If you don't want to talk stadium expansion, how about we open up more seating for students? Students are showing up and being turned away.  

Students don't pay for tickets? Well they do pay a couple grand in tuition...


This happen other than homecoming?



Yes it happened against NMSU.  I would imagine it will happen for our next two games too...
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Posted: 10/19/2012 1:22 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
If you don't want to talk stadium expansion, how about we open up more seating for students? Students are showing up and being turned away.  

Students don't pay for tickets? Well they do pay a couple grand in tuition...


And don't forget what students (and their parents) pay in general fees in addition to tuition.

As to improvements, I wonder if it wouldn't be more economically to just tear down the student section and build a new section. 
Last Edited: 10/19/2012 1:23:21 PM by Mark Lembright '85
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Posted: 10/19/2012 6:29 PM
Technically I think that tickets to varsity sporting events are technically a component of the General Fees. At least that was the case when I was a student.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 7:27 PM
mf279801 wrote:expand_more
Technically I think that tickets to varsity sporting events are technically a component of the General Fees. At least that was the case when I was a student.


And still are, as my Sports Management professor points out.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 9:54 PM

Sorry for hijacking the thread with a long winded, potentially irrelevant post.  Some of these ideas may have been in my head because I read them on here (I know a few are) so if you posted it first, please take credit for it.

If we renovate, tear down the student side and build steeper, larger sitting areas.  Take down the wings on the endzone and redo that side; maybe square it off.

I doubt we see anything until next year about expanding, but I think they'll definantly start discussing it.  My .02...

1)  Figure out how to maximize decibals.  Talk to the firms who do the best stadiums.  Reach out to the firm that worked on renovations for Autzen Stadium.  At 54,000 capacity, they are probably louder than the Shoe, the Swamp, and just about any stadium in the country not domed.  They reached 127 decibals once.  Excerpt from Wikipedia:

Autzen is known for its crowd noise. Due to the stadium's relatively small footprint, the fans are very close to the action, and the field is sunken. These factors contribute to the loudness of the stadium even though it is smaller than other 'noise comparable' stadiums.
[20] According to many in the Pac-10, it was actually even louder prior to the most recent expansion because the noise reverberated all the way up the stadium and bounced back down to the field—the so-called "Autzen bounce." Oregon officials say that any future expansions will trap more noise.[2

This is what we need to look at for stadium expansion.  Build the architecture in a way that it traps the sound.  Closed endzones, fans as close as possible, steeper bleachers so if they expand off that, they can add on easier.
2)I don't know how the process works with construction, but try to keep local construction firms in.  On top of the pay, donate tickets to home games to the firm as an appreciative gift.  Stadium built in Ohio by Ohio's people for Ohio's people.  For fundraising, reach out to every local business possible.  Reach out to large national corporations who don't have a footprint in Southeast Ohio.  Again, show appreciation for them somehow and the return on it could be big.  Reach out to the community itself.  If we expand, keep prices for tickets resonably low (still gotta bump prices a bit, but keep it reasonable.)  Reach out to the community, give Southeast Ohio something they can be proud of.  God knows it needs it.

3)  Market the living hell out of this move.  Turn this area of the state into true Bobcat Nation.  (Think Optimists GET OFF MY LAWN! mentality.)  When local students are doing college visits, Ohio should be their first choice.  Student athletes should DREAM of going to Ohio.  Send representatives to local festivals or county fairs (ESPECIALLY the Pumpkin Show) if they're not out there already.  Recruiting isn't only something Frank needs to be creative with.  Selling point:  We have the best stadium in the MAC, the best fanbase in the midwest, and one of the best coaching staffs (staves?) in the country.  Year in and out, we get one of the top recruiting classes in the conference.  This is not some Big Ten semi-pro team where you are just a face in the crowd.  At Ohio, YOU are more than a face in the crowd.  You're not a spectator, but a part of something.  This may sound corny, but the thing I love about OUr athletic program is that it is a community.  (Look at the differences between small towns and big cities for reference)

4)  Reach out to local schools.  Hocking College doesn't have athletics like us.  Maybe reach out to Marietta and Shawnee State for the midweek games.  There's room for a DIII and DI school to root for each other.  Have a game where the school gets tickets, courtesy of our Fine institution.  Maybe have a game where students at the schools in Athens and neighboring counties get a discount. 


This is my pipe dream of Ohio.  We're competators with Ohio State and Cincinnati.  We have become to the MAC what Texas is to the Big XII.  The crown jewel.  All the others are competing to catch up with us.  We use our power to push around the other weaker MAC schools on the field and force them to get better.  Hell, we are the model for EMU, Buffalo, UMass, Miami.  Because of that, the MAC becomes a conference that nobody takes lightly anymore.  (Toledo, NIU, and another East team can help lead the charge.)

I realize that doing this would require two things:  constant 12 or 13 win seasons (or 14) and a massive funding project.  Can we do this?  With our resources now, maybe not.  But we need to have a goal of higher things, even if we're in the MAC.  Our attendence is steering us that way.  Capture the momentum of this season, carry it to basketball, hope it reaches baseball, and watch Ohio become THE mid-major of the East.


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Posted: 10/20/2012 9:47 AM
Autzen stands are very very steep. It's like being surrounded by a giant wall.  Whereas Peden has one of the flattest inclines of any stadium.
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