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Visited the BGSU fan forum, above link.  Not surprised to find them enjoying disrespecting TT and coach Solich.  What goes around ...  I am going to enjoy the ....... comes around.  Two folks I would not give locker door motivation.  I believe BG  will have their hand full Wednesday.  Miami broke a string of losses, not going to happen for BG

I know you are right.  Just feel it is low, don't see that crap here.  Time for their young roster to deal with the MACs best OL and Tyler, Boykin and Beau. 

Then maybe internet message boards aren't for you.

No, it's here as well. We're not perfect and some posters here stoop to levels I wish Bobcats wouldn't stoop to. And I think  the posters who post such know after the fact they've overstepped certain bounds.

I'll just say that I bet the average age of this board is 20 years older than most any other message board. That's not a judgment, but an observation. That's going to affect how posters view post-modernity vs. how a millenial is going to post, think.

One generation views this place like writing a letter to the editorial page of a newspaper. The other views this as a virtual sportsbar, with all its crudeness and witticism. I love both aspects, but it's two generations posting with different goal in mind.

Spot on!

Sadly I see that day arriving as well...

It's quickly becoming more stressful than enjoyable.  For the record, I don't buy the age demographic being the root of the issue.  I'm guessing at 44, I fall somewhere near the middle of the split.  I'll admit that I've taken bait in the past from Marshall posters (and from Temple Mark but I don't count him).  I'm not necessarily offended by proactive bashing but much like LC, I could do without it.

The entitled vibe is what's really getting to me.  I suppose it is unavoidable to an extent as perennial winning becomes the norm.  I've seen boards though that have multiple forums, one of which is designated for "smack" and one for "discussion".  Maybe that's the direction we're heading?

JSF, perhaps you noted L.C. acknowledge that it is not his place to tell others what they should post. Think about it, you might let folks figure out for themselves how sensitive they want to be. We are all big boys here, what really rubs one raw is someone telling you you are too sensitive.

My apologies for misunderstanding you.  I would argue we've largely maintained our standards when it comes to the English langauge.

This is nonsense.

Our team was being hyped (internally within the AD's office and by local/national media) as a top 25'ish team with BCS potential. And yet, we were/are barely pulling off wins against some of the worst teams in all of college football (I'm looking at you UMass). Meanwhile, our MAC rivals like NIU are pulverizing these guys by 50 points. All of this culminating with a disastrous performance at Oxford.

It is not "entitlement" to wonder why, in his 8'th (?) season of building this program, Solich can't put away teams like Akron and Buffalo (at home) in semi-convincing fashion.

First of all, you will find no mention of the Akron and Buffalo games in my comments. No one thinks that Ohio played to their potential in those games. Secondly, I also didn't comment on the hopes of a top 25 ranking, nor a BCS bowl because I think it is a good thing to hope for that. The problem comes when you go from a hoping for a Top 25 Rank/BCS bowl to expecting it. I posted at the beginning of the season that at best there was a 10% chance that it could happen. As all the injuries occurred, those odds probably went down, and the weak performances against U.Mass, Akron, and Buffalo should have been a warning that this was probably not the season when that might happen.

I have no problem with dreaming big, but I also think it is healthy to accept reality. Defining the line between "success" and "failure" in terms of whether they are undefeated, in the Top 25, and in a BCS bowl is simply not realistic. Hope for it yes, but expect it, no. The other thing I mentioned that bothered me was people complaining about the win over EMU, that somehow a 31 point margin wasn't enough, or that 300 yards of rushing wasn't establishing a run game. Coach Solich, in his press conference, called the EMU game probably the best overall game this year, and it was one of the largest margins of victory under Solich, so I don't know why people are drawing the defining line between "success" and "failure" at an even higher point.

My other point is that this is still the early stages of this change. I have predicted that Ohio will never again fail to win 10 games until Solich retires. The more the teams do that, the more people will draw the line between "success" and "failure" at ever higher points.  Even if they fail to win 10 some years, I won't be down on the team however. As long time posters recall, back in about 2007 I predicted an undefeated season for the Bobcats in 2011, which raised a lot of eyebrows at the time. Even though that didn't happen, I think 2011 was still an outstanding season, and they accomplished a lot.

Logan, yes, I know what other boards are like. That's why I'm not on those boards. As this board becomes increasingly like those, I will probably gradually vanish, and only post infrequently. It isn't a bad thing - I will have enjoyed my time here, and met many nice people, and had many interesting conversations. I'll just be a dinosaur, and my time will have passed.

I don't like the disparaging posts either.  But I don't think that there's been a significant downgrading of the discourse here--especially considering that the volume of posts and number of people who post seem to be significantly higher.

Look, I was the one who was not happy with the EMU performance.  First, we were only up about 10 points with about two minutes to go in the third quarter--against a 1 win team which had been giving up a ton of yards on the ground.  I thought that we did not play that well over the first three quarters.  I don't see my advocacy of that point of view as disturbing.  Not insisting that anyone agree; merely saying that I think that my view point could be legitimately supported.

Second, I'm more interested in us playing to our potential than in winning.  (I say that knowing that I expect us to win the vast majority of games in which we play well.  The injuries on D must be factored in, of course.)

Turns out they had plenty to be cocky about.  They dominated OU on the field and on the sidelines.