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Scott Welsh
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Posted: 11/8/2012 10:48 AM


Kent - Loses to Redhawks, Beats BG, Loses to OHIO
BG - Loses to Kent AND Buffalo
Miami- Beats Kent and loses to either Central or Ball (would prefer both)
OHIO - Just Win BABY!!!!
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Posted: 11/8/2012 11:45 AM
Congratulations, Scott.  It takes an undeserved amount of faith in the Cats to envision this team beating BSU and Cant on the road. Emotionally, physically, mentally beaten at this point, and yet  who knows?  Could happen, I guess.  Not feelin' it today, though.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 11:50 AM
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Posted: 11/8/2012 11:52 AM
So where do we go from here? if we win one more does a 9-3 record keep us out of a bowl game? Do we still hold out hope for a conference championship chance? With such a disheartening loss I am finding it hard to get excited about the next two games. With that said I will continue to root for this team and watch them until the end. We may lose the fair weather/band wagon fans but at 8-2 this team still has the opportunity to do something special.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 11:57 AM
Can I ask why we care about winning the division now that we're not undefeated and have no shot at a BCS bowl?  What does it really matter?  What's the motivation to win the MAC at this point?  A nice, shiny new banner for Peden?  It's completely meaningless.  Winning the division only ties you into one of the same old lousy MAC bowls. 
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Posted: 11/8/2012 12:18 PM
Because that is the team's initial goal. Has been since the end of last season. They still have not reached it, and incrementally, that comes before any bowl game or BCS discussion, including any Top 25 listing. Our first goal is win the smallest measure, well, second-smallest if you count the MAC East.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 12:22 PM
IAbobcat wrote:expand_more
So where do we go from here? if we win one more does a 9-3 record keep us out of a bowl game? Do we still hold out hope for a conference championship chance? With such a disheartening loss I am finding it hard to get excited about the next two games. With that said I will continue to root for this team and watch them until the end. We may lose the fair weather/band wagon fans but at 8-2 this team still has the opportunity to do something special.


There is no way this team doesn't end up in a bowl game. Even if they lose out.

What would be so special about something they did last year - win 10 games including a bowl game (and at least last year they were division champions)?
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Posted: 11/8/2012 12:42 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but this is how I think we can get into the MAC Championship game:

1) We have to win out
2) Kent needs to loose against Miami and against us, but they MUST beat Bowling Green
3) Bowling Green needs to loose to Kent and Buffalo
4) Miami needs to loose a game sometime before the season ends, but not against Kent State.

Pretty easy, right?
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Posted: 11/8/2012 12:52 PM
KyleWvr13 wrote:expand_more
Correct me if i'm wrong, but this is how I think we can get into the MAC Championship game:

1) We have to win out
2) Kent needs to loose against Miami and against us, but they MUST beat Bowling Green
3) Bowling Green needs to loose to Kent and Buffalo
4) Miami needs to loose a game sometime before the season ends, but not against Kent State.

Pretty easy, right?


That looks familiar

But if Kent beats Miami....that finally eliminates us.  Kent would then have to Beat BG and then face us with no losses.  BG wins any game...over.

It's the 1986-1990 version of me that is still hopefull.  That guy never even had a wisp of any of this.  Doesn't mean I am ok with the losses.  Just holding out hope until there is none.

Go Cats
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Posted: 11/8/2012 1:04 PM
Scott Welsh wrote:expand_more


Kent - Loses to Redhawks, Beats BG, Loses to OHIO
BG - Loses to Kent AND Buffalo
Miami- Beats Kent and loses to either Central or Ball (would prefer both)
OHIO - Just Win BABY!!!!



I'll drink that kool-aid.  It's the MAC.  Not counting on it, but anything can happen.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 1:42 PM
Maryland Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Can I ask why we care about winning the division now that we're not undefeated and have no shot at a BCS bowl?  What does it really matter?  What's the motivation to win the MAC at this point?  A nice, shiny new banner for Peden?  It's completely meaningless.  Winning the division only ties you into one of the same old lousy MAC bowls. 


I couldn't disagree more. A conference championship means a lot more to me than a bowl game. Your mileage may vary, but I doubt I'm the only one who sees it that way.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:01 PM
athena wrote:expand_more
Can I ask why we care about winning the division now that we're not undefeated and have no shot at a BCS bowl?  What does it really matter?  What's the motivation to win the MAC at this point?  A nice, shiny new banner for Peden?  It's completely meaningless.  Winning the division only ties you into one of the same old lousy MAC bowls. 


I couldn't disagree more. A conference championship means a lot more to me than a bowl game. Your mileage may vary, but I doubt I'm the only one who sees it that way.


Not to sound blase, but we've been to three straight bowl games now, so it's not like we haven't been there already.  We haven't won the MAC since 1968 -- the year before I was a freshman.  It would be a plateau we haven't reached in my 43 years of association with Ohio University.  I'd to see it happen. 
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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:35 PM
I agree that winning a MAC championship should be our top goal, but it's also important to go to bowl games. Who wants to go back to the days when the season always ended in November. Bowl games carry the excitement of football season longer. Granted, it's not like I wouldn't still follow other bowl games, but I want my team in a bowl game whether it's a MAC bowl like the Little Caesar's Bowl or as one website suggested, the Pinstripe Bowl. That's important too. 
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Posted: 11/8/2012 4:36 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Can I ask why we care about winning the division now that we're not undefeated and have no shot at a BCS bowl?  What does it really matter?  What's the motivation to win the MAC at this point?  A nice, shiny new banner for Peden?  It's completely meaningless.  Winning the division only ties you into one of the same old lousy MAC bowls. 


I couldn't disagree more. A conference championship means a lot more to me than a bowl game. Your mileage may vary, but I doubt I'm the only one who sees it that way.


Not to sound blase, but we've been to three straight bowl games now, so it's not like we haven't been there already.  We haven't won the MAC since 1968 -- the year before I was a freshman.  It would be a plateau we haven't reached in my 43 years of association with Ohio University.  I'd to see it happen. 


I get there's a level of pride there, and all coaches say the same thing, but what's the reward for winning the conference?  I shirt that says you are champs?  A statistic that says you won it?  The current college football postseason provides no real reward for winning your conference for the non-AQ's.  In every other D-1 sport Ohio competes in winning the conference qualifies you into some type of postseason tournament.  In football it does not.  It gets you to Detroit or Mobile, and a hat that says you are champs.  That's it. 

My point is that end result of a good season is a bowl game either way, and by not winning you actually may get a better bowl and better opponent.  I'll also argue winning a bowl game is more significant in the current college football lanscape than winning the conference.  How many times this year have we heard the media mention winning our first bowl last year? Much more significant than winning the MACC and losing the bowl game. 
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Posted: 11/8/2012 8:44 PM
I think we sometimes forget that a double digit win season is special no matter how often it happens. Not many teams can win that many games and not every team wins a bowl game. Enjoy this now because it is hard for smaller schools to continue this success.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 8:46 AM
Maryland Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Can I ask why we care about winning the division now that we're not undefeated and have no shot at a BCS bowl?  What does it really matter?  What's the motivation to win the MAC at this point?  A nice, shiny new banner for Peden?  It's completely meaningless.  Winning the division only ties you into one of the same old lousy MAC bowls. 


The MAC is having one of the best years in recent memory.  Some publications have us above the Big East and the ACC, CBS ahead  of the BIG TEN.  I know publications mean little, but this isn't the MAC we've been used to the past few years.
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