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Posted: 6/11/2013 12:33 PM
According to ESPN, they're bowl locations being bandied about for the Go5 conferences.  If you think we have problems getting fans to Boise.....
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Posted: 6/11/2013 12:56 PM
Wow...tell me this article is not an indication of a Super Division (Big5 Conferences) and a Wannabe Division (Small 5 Conferences) each with separate bowl games.  We will be second class citizens within 10 years.  In some kinda "tweener" division between the Big5 and the 1AA (or whatever they call themselves).
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Posted: 6/11/2013 2:13 PM
Casper71 wrote:expand_more
Wow...tell me this article is not an indication of a Super Division (Big5 Conferences) and a Wannabe Division (Small 5 Conferences) each with separate bowl games.  We will be second class citizens within 10 years.  In some kinda "tweener" division between the Big5 and the 1AA (or whatever they call themselves).


This is inevitable unless some Senator somewhere decides to make it a pet peeve.  Like Orrin Hatch used to do before Utah was invited to the PAC 10.
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Posted: 6/11/2013 4:40 PM
While depressing to think about, it's already going on in a number of ways.  We have had one member of our conference make it to a BCS game in its 15 year history.  For all of the glory years that Marhsall had in the late 90's and Miami had with Roethlisberger they both went to bowl games with a similar profile that is outlined in this article.  

As long as we are in the MAC it will be much of the same, which is OK.  The best we can make of the situation is to become a MAC champ consistently and perhaps catch the interest of a conference looking to add to its ranks.

Something tells me though that there may be another 4-5 teams (UC, UConn, maybe USF) that will be picked up in the near future to make this mega-conference concept a reality and that will be status quo for the foreseeable future.

In my heart this whole thing screams of anti-trust but chances are a loop hole will be found. 
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Posted: 6/11/2013 9:10 PM
I would go to Ireland for a Bobcats game. Meet you there.
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Posted: 6/13/2013 9:43 AM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
While depressing to think about, it's already going on in a number of ways.  We have had one member of our conference make it to a BCS game in its 15 year history.  For all of the glory years that Marhsall had in the late 90's and Miami had with Roethlisberger they both went to bowl games with a similar profile that is outlined in this article.  

As long as we are in the MAC it will be much of the same, which is OK.  The best we can make of the situation is to become a MAC champ consistently and perhaps catch the interest of a conference looking to add to its ranks.

Something tells me though that there may be another 4-5 teams (UC, UConn, maybe USF) that will be picked up in the near future to make this mega-conference concept a reality and that will be status quo for the foreseeable future.

In my heart this whole thing screams of anti-trust but chances are a loop hole will be found. 


Agree with most of what u say, although I am not up on anti trust laws and the libertarian in me says the big schools can do what they want whether I like it or not.  Your points also lead to the conclusion that there is no way for us to become Boise State, no matter  how much some of us may aspire to be.

An old friend of mine was a finalist for the AD job at one time when it opened under the Glidden administration. He had worked in athletics administration at 2 SEC schools  He told me that he felt a major reason he did not get the job was his conviction that eventually the MAC and other smaller conferences would be squeezed out of D-1 football.  He said then that the school needed to prepare for that eventuality and put emphasis on basketball and other sports. 
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Posted: 6/13/2013 10:17 AM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
While depressing to think about, it's already going on in a number of ways.  We have had one member of our conference make it to a BCS game in its 15 year history.  For all of the glory years that Marhsall had in the late 90's and Miami had with Roethlisberger they both went to bowl games with a similar profile that is outlined in this article.  

As long as we are in the MAC it will be much of the same, which is OK.  The best we can make of the situation is to become a MAC champ consistently and perhaps catch the interest of a conference looking to add to its ranks.

Something tells me though that there may be another 4-5 teams (UC, UConn, maybe USF) that will be picked up in the near future to make this mega-conference concept a reality and that will be status quo for the foreseeable future.

In my heart this whole thing screams of anti-trust but chances are a loop hole will be found. 


Agree with most of what u say, although I am not up on anti trust laws and the libertarian in me says the big schools can do what they want whether I like it or not.  Your points also lead to the conclusion that there is no way for us to become Boise State, no matter  how much some of us may aspire to be.

An old friend of mine was a finalist for the AD job at one time when it opened under the Glidden administration. He had worked in athletics administration at 2 SEC schools  He told me that he felt a major reason he did not get the job was his conviction that eventually the MAC and other smaller conferences would be squeezed out of D-1 football.  He said then that the school needed to prepare for that eventuality and put emphasis on basketball and other sports. 


I don't like the idea of de-emphasizing football. And, I don't think it's necessary. Why can't the MAC embrace the "island" that is non-BCS, DI football? There are many advantages. We don't have to fully participate in the arms race. Fans realize non-BCS schools don't have the endless resources. However, non-BCS schools are also recognized as the next-best thing to the mega programs--by fans and even by the athletes themselves. The MAC and similar conferences should embrace a brand that is more "pure," less corrupted by money.
  • Smaller venues, but still big compared with DIAA, DII and DIII.
  • Smaller fan bases, but still far more exciting than smaller Divisions.
  • Less dazzling facilities, but still pretty nice.
  • Less national exposure, but much more exposure than DIAA or lower.
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Posted: 6/13/2013 11:42 AM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
I would go to Ireland for a Bobcats game. Meet you there.


A mighty long bus ride.  Hope they have more than two videos.
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