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Posted: 7/14/2013 11:42 PM
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110 X 2 parents = 220 seats = less than 1% of Peden capacity. And how many cheapo deal seats do we essentially "give-away"? Kitty poo.............


Whoa! You really do not think the 110 only has 110 members in it do you?????? LMAO!


Obviously RS is not a Colgate math major. 


Obviously not. But I know Kitty poo when I smell it..............
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Posted: 7/15/2013 10:23 AM
Since the 110 is considered a great ambassador of the school they might want to spend some money asking alums for donations to help support them then.  I bet there are lots of alums that would donate if asked by the 110.
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Posted: 7/15/2013 11:42 AM
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Since the 110 is considered a great ambassador of the school they might want to spend some money asking alums for donations to help support them then.  I bet there are lots of alums that would donate if asked by the 110.


They should not have to ask for donations.  If they are such a great ambassador, which I agree they are, the  more of the current student fees should be allocated to them.  I heard a fellow running for office say something rather profound last September on his visit to Athens - "show me your budget and I'll tell you what you value."
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Posted: 7/15/2013 12:08 PM
Here's an article from the Post in April talking about the 110's fundraising efforts. At the time they were trying to get final approval to order new uniforms, they've been using the same ones since 1998. Incredible.

- cost for new uniforms is $173,000, they're fundraiser came up $125,000 short.
- Students buy their own hats, t-shirts and gloves.
- the 110 applied for funds out of the General Fee reserve originally tabbed for the IPF.
- the trip to Europe cost $2400 per member and was paid in full by each member, no school funds used.
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Posted: 7/15/2013 12:33 PM

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I do not know how many seats it totals but a chunk of the "free" 110 parents tickets are the  rows behind the standing sousaphones.  So they are not really seats but standing room areas if the person wants to see any action.

The rumor is that parents will have to pay $60 per season ticket.  The AD is making a gamble that the parents pay up and will likely stick them in the rows mentioned above.  If these tickets go to the public, it will be intersting to see the yellow jacketed ushers getting an earful from an unsuspecting ticket holder complaining about the wonderful view of the back of a shinning tuba!  "76 trombones block my field view; and the 110 stands up all the time.  They are followed  by row after row of..." Sing it!

   

 


 

The headlines on BA will read "110 kicked out of Peden for standing"

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Posted: 7/15/2013 4:14 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
Here's an article from the Post in April talking about the 110's fundraising efforts. At the time they were trying to get final approval to order new uniforms, they've been using the same ones since 1998. Incredible.

- cost for new uniforms is $173,000, they're fundraiser came up $125,000 short.
- Students buy their own hats, t-shirts and gloves.
- the 110 applied for funds out of the General Fee reserve originally tabbed for the IPF.
- the trip to Europe cost $2400 per member and was paid in full by each member, no school funds used.


I wonder what the average student at OU would say if they truly knew how little of their fee money goes to the 110.  Would love to see a pie chart of where all of the money goes.

Found it.

http://oustudentsenate.com/fee

$5.82 per student in fees per year about the same that goes to men's golf.
Last Edited: 7/15/2013 4:19:37 PM by Alan Swank
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Posted: 7/15/2013 8:09 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
Here's an article from the Post in April talking about the 110's fundraising efforts. At the time they were trying to get final approval to order new uniforms, they've been using the same ones since 1998. Incredible.

- cost for new uniforms is $173,000, they're fundraiser came up $125,000 short.
- Students buy their own hats, t-shirts and gloves.
- the 110 applied for funds out of the General Fee reserve originally tabbed for the IPF.
- the trip to Europe cost $2400 per member and was paid in full by each member, no school funds used.
Came up 125k short? Ouch!!!
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Posted: 7/15/2013 10:28 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Here's an article from the Post in April talking about the 110's fundraising efforts. At the time they were trying to get final approval to order new uniforms, they've been using the same ones since 1998. Incredible.

- cost for new uniforms is $173,000, they're fundraiser came up $125,000 short.
- Students buy their own hats, t-shirts and gloves.
- the 110 applied for funds out of the General Fee reserve originally tabbed for the IPF.
- the trip to Europe cost $2400 per member and was paid in full by each member, no school funds used.


Came up 125k short? Ouch!!!


I don't think they realistically expected to raise $173,000...
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Posted: 7/15/2013 11:20 PM
side note, I read somewhere recently that only about 20% of the band members are music majors. You would think that the more music majors the better, but that's not necessarily true. Ohio, unlike most schools, doesn't require music ed majors to participate in marching band which gives us a large advantage over schools that do. Music majors might be good musicians but when the marching band is a mandatory class you get a lot of members who only march the one year required and they might not put out maximum effort. Bands end up with lots of turnover, lack of senior leadership, lack of alumni support and overall lack of competitiveness.

Meanwhile the 110 had 53 people tryout last year and not make the cut. Of the 240 members that did only 160 get to march pregame and 192 march halftime. I'm guessing most MAC bands struggle with getting enough people to try out, turning people away probably doesn't happen much. And I bet you won't find one that has 50 members that don't even make the field every week.
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Posted: 7/16/2013 1:18 AM
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side note, I read somewhere recently that only about 20% of the band members are music majors. You would think that the more music majors the better, but that's not necessarily true. Ohio, unlike most schools, doesn't require music ed majors to participate in marching band which gives us a large advantage over schools that do. Music majors might be good musicians but when the marching band is a mandatory class you get a lot of members who only march the one year required and they might not put out maximum effort. Bands end up with lots of turnover, lack of senior leadership, lack of alumni support and overall lack of competitiveness.

Meanwhile the 110 had 53 people tryout last year and not make the cut. Of the 240 members that did only 160 get to march pregame and 192 march halftime. I'm guessing most MAC bands struggle with getting enough people to try out, turning people away probably doesn't happen much. And I bet you won't find one that has 50 members that don't even make the field every week.

Current student who marched in High School and minors in music here. The reason so many of the 110's members are non-music majors has to do with their playing style. Playing loud and blasting things like they do can ruin some of your tone for things like classical music. My high school marching band was directed by an OU and 110 Alum and we were known for great half time shows at football games and putting on shows during breaks in the action at basketball games, but our concert band (same exact kids) was very very blehhh and average
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Posted: 7/16/2013 7:51 AM
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side note, I read somewhere recently that only about 20% of the band members are music majors. You would think that the more music majors the better, but that's not necessarily true. Ohio, unlike most schools, doesn't require music ed majors to participate in marching band which gives us a large advantage over schools that do. Music majors might be good musicians but when the marching band is a mandatory class you get a lot of members who only march the one year required and they might not put out maximum effort. Bands end up with lots of turnover, lack of senior leadership, lack of alumni support and overall lack of competitiveness.

Meanwhile the 110 had 53 people tryout last year and not make the cut. Of the 240 members that did only 160 get to march pregame and 192 march halftime. I'm guessing most MAC bands struggle with getting enough people to try out, turning people away probably doesn't happen much. And I bet you won't find one that has 50 members that don't even make the field every week.

Current student who marched in High School and minors in music here. The reason so many of the 110's members are non-music majors has to do with their playing style. Playing loud and blasting things like they do can ruin some of your tone for things like classical music. My high school marching band was directed by an OU and 110 Alum and we were known for great half time shows at football games and putting on shows during breaks in the action at basketball games, but our concert band (same exact kids) was very very blehhh and average


I marched in the 110 for five years, and you make it sound like people are out there just honking and blowing as hard as they can just to make a sound. I understand you had a certain experience, but unless you have marched in the band, I wouldn't cast judgement on each member's playing ability, music major or not. Many of the top student leadership and music section leader positions are held by fantastic players who ARE NOT music majors. 
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Posted: 7/16/2013 5:09 PM
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side note, I read somewhere recently that only about 20% of the band members are music majors. You would think that the more music majors the better, but that's not necessarily true. Ohio, unlike most schools, doesn't require music ed majors to participate in marching band which gives us a large advantage over schools that do. Music majors might be good musicians but when the marching band is a mandatory class you get a lot of members who only march the one year required and they might not put out maximum effort. Bands end up with lots of turnover, lack of senior leadership, lack of alumni support and overall lack of competitiveness.

Meanwhile the 110 had 53 people tryout last year and not make the cut. Of the 240 members that did only 160 get to march pregame and 192 march halftime. I'm guessing most MAC bands struggle with getting enough people to try out, turning people away probably doesn't happen much. And I bet you won't find one that has 50 members that don't even make the field every week.

Current student who marched in High School and minors in music here. The reason so many of the 110's members are non-music majors has to do with their playing style. Playing loud and blasting things like they do can ruin some of your tone for things like classical music. My high school marching band was directed by an OU and 110 Alum and we were known for great half time shows at football games and putting on shows during breaks in the action at basketball games, but our concert band (same exact kids) was very very blehhh and average


I marched in the 110 for five years, and you make it sound like people are out there just honking and blowing as hard as they can just to make a sound. I understand you had a certain experience, but unless you have marched in the band, I wouldn't cast judgement on each member's playing ability, music major or not. Many of the top student leadership and music section leader positions are held by fantastic players who ARE NOT music majors. 


I don't think he's questioning the level of talent but rather remarking that playing in the 110, or any marching band or drump corps, requires a different physicality then playing indoors with a wind ensemble. Young players, if they aren't careful, can blow out their embouchers and have trouble adjusting to the different styles.
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Posted: 7/16/2013 5:24 PM
Don't forget the band is made up of saxes, clarinets, percussion and the rest is all brass.  There are not that many brass majors in the SOM at Ohio.  So unless a voice or piano or string player wants to pick up another instrument the band will not have many music majors.

I agree with permiter that other bands who require marching band participation likely suffer a lack of enthusiasm by a number of participants.  The 110 does not have many malcontents and that certainly gives them a chance of being "Better than the Best ever"
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Posted: 7/16/2013 7:14 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
side note, I read somewhere recently that only about 20% of the band members are music majors. You would think that the more music majors the better, but that's not necessarily true. Ohio, unlike most schools, doesn't require music ed majors to participate in marching band which gives us a large advantage over schools that do. Music majors might be good musicians but when the marching band is a mandatory class you get a lot of members who only march the one year required and they might not put out maximum effort. Bands end up with lots of turnover, lack of senior leadership, lack of alumni support and overall lack of competitiveness.

Meanwhile the 110 had 53 people tryout last year and not make the cut. Of the 240 members that did only 160 get to march pregame and 192 march halftime. I'm guessing most MAC bands struggle with getting enough people to try out, turning people away probably doesn't happen much. And I bet you won't find one that has 50 members that don't even make the field every week.

Current student who marched in High School and minors in music here. The reason so many of the 110's members are non-music majors has to do with their playing style. Playing loud and blasting things like they do can ruin some of your tone for things like classical music. My high school marching band was directed by an OU and 110 Alum and we were known for great half time shows at football games and putting on shows during breaks in the action at basketball games, but our concert band (same exact kids) was very very blehhh and average


I marched in the 110 for five years, and you make it sound like people are out there just honking and blowing as hard as they can just to make a sound. I understand you had a certain experience, but unless you have marched in the band, I wouldn't cast judgement on each member's playing ability, music major or not. Many of the top student leadership and music section leader positions are held by fantastic players who ARE NOT music majors. 


I don't think he's questioning the level of talent but rather remarking that playing in the 110, or any marching band or drump corps, requires a different physicality then playing indoors with a wind ensemble. Young players, if they aren't careful, can blow out their embouchers and have trouble adjusting to the different styles.


I can guarantee you that this is the first time that the word "embouchers" has been used on a sports board.  And you wonder why folks have such passion for and loyalty to OU?
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Posted: 7/18/2013 12:47 PM
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IF it's true that band parents/family members now have to pay...that is an absolutely indefensible move. The band does more than any other group on campus to support athletics. To "nickle and dime" them in the name of a couple extra bucks is just awful.


I love the 110 as much as the next guy.  Most of my good friends while I was at OU were in the band.  But if you would mind telling me how the band supports athletics more than any other group on campus, I'd love to hear it.

As a former cheerleader, I can tell you that we had the first thee weeks off during spring quarter and that was it.  The rest of the year, we were either supporting teams, or trying to fund raise for ourselves.   Even summer and winter breaks were spent coming up with routines, raising money, and teaching freshmen to fly.  We didn't stay in the dorms at all, the freshman and sophomores would stay in the cheerleaders apartments off campus.

It's tight for a lot of groups, not just the most visable.

Edit:  Typo
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Posted: 7/18/2013 5:14 PM
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IF it's true that band parents/family members now have to pay...that is an absolutely indefensible move. The band does more than any other group on campus to support athletics. To "nickle and dime" them in the name of a couple extra bucks is just awful.


I love the 110 as much as the next guy.  Most of my good friends while I was at OU were in the band.  But if you would mind telling me how the band supports athletics more than any other group on campus, I'd love to hear it.

As a former cheerleader, I can tell you that we had the first thee weeks off during spring quarter and that was it.  The rest of the year, we were either supporting teams, or trying to fund raise for ourselves.   Even summer and winter breaks were spent coming up with routines, raising money, and teaching freshmen to fly.  We didn't stay in the dorms at all, the freshman and sophomores would stay in the cheerleaders apartments off campus.

It's tight for a lot of groups, not just the most visable.

Edit:  Typo


Hey, you're spot on 

I've always been impressed with how much time the cheerleaders put into what they do without much of the proper recognition they deserve. They're number one in my eyes! 
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