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Posted: 10/10/2013 3:58 PM
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Note - Some of these might get fired, others might get a job offer and move.
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Posted: 10/10/2013 4:14 PM
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Ron English seemed to have EMU in an upward direction only to tank back to the basement of the MAC...his time is nearly up.
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Posted: 10/10/2013 4:55 PM
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MariettaCatFanatic wrote:expand_more
Ron English seemed to have EMU in an upward direction only to tank back to the basement of the MAC...his time is nearly up.

His predecessor, Genyk, had teams that were competitive most of the time, but which couldn't quite get over the hump, and they often lost a lot of close games. Here is a comparison of Genyk to English.

                                   Overall                            MAC                     Close                     Ugly
                               W-L Record                   W-L Record            Losses <10            Losses>25
Genyk                         16-42                             13-26                       18                         10
English                        11-42                               7-27                       10                         21

Another comparison - the average Sagarin rating for the 5 years before Genyk was 51.32. Under Genyk the average was 54.72. Under English it has been 48.82.
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Posted: 10/10/2013 4:56 PM
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Although Akron has made strides with Terry Bowden, I think it's time for them to jump on the Tressel choo-choo train. He has to be itching to get back into football and people in Ohio STILL love him. I'm not sure what the show-cause penalty entails or would entail, but I'd be willing to bet they would take the risk.

The answer to your question is Texas when they get pummelled this Saturday by the Sooners.
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Posted: 10/10/2013 5:01 PM
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Basically, Akron would have to give the NCAA a compelling reason to allow them to hire Tressel.
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Posted: 10/10/2013 6:24 PM
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EMU, but I don't think the eastern edge of the shadow of the Big House was the east coast TOS was interested in.
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Basically, Akron would have to give the NCAA a compelling reason to allow them to hire Tressel.


I think their overall record is as compelling as any reason to get. 
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Posted: 10/10/2013 9:19 PM
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I don't get the idea it will be Akron, really. I think Bowden has done an amazing job. While they haven't won many, they are much, much more competitive, except the Ohio game. iCoach left them in pretty sorry shape.
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Posted: 10/10/2013 9:55 PM
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When TOS is fired, will there be a 'TOS to' thread in his honor?



 
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Posted: 10/10/2013 10:26 PM
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Basically, Akron would have to give the NCAA a compelling reason to allow them to hire Tressel.

My reason would be that he was unjustly penalized in the first place from trying to protect his players from a stupid NCAA rule.....and yes I hate OSU more than anybody.   If you mock or hate Tressel for the rules he broke, we should all be ripping Frank apart for his DUI....

 
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Posted: 10/10/2013 10:31 PM
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When TOS is fired, will there be a 'TOS to' thread in his honor?

I doubt he'll ever be fired at Bryant.  He could make the across-town move to Providence College sometime, maybe, and be fired there if he didn't produce.   TOS to Providence is the next "real" TOS-to-thread that I'm waiting to see.

 
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Posted: 10/10/2013 10:43 PM
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A funny side note. Nebraska used to have exactly the same thing, a basketball coach that wanted to be "back east", and whose name was mentioned with every job opening, a guy named Nee.
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
A funny side note. Nebraska used to have exactly the same thing, a basketball coach that wanted to be "back east", and whose name was mentioned with every job opening, a guy named Nee.


Just out of curiosity do most Nebraskans consider Ohio "back east" or part of the Middle West?  This was one thing that I found strange when we lived in Missouri.  Like most Ohioans I considered myself a midwesterner; however, all of my colleagues considered me an easterner.  Now, I expect Nee actually wanted to go back to New York, which in anybody's book is in the East, but I'm curious about the mental maps in the minds of Nebraskans.  This concept of "mental maps" has always fascinated me.  My relatives in Minneapolis, for instance, tend to believe that anything beyond the borders of their state is the uncivilized hinterlands -- not unlike attitude I've encountered in NYC and the land beyond the Hudson.  
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Posted: 10/10/2013 11:45 PM
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I bristle at being called a Midwesterner. I find the Great Lakes region culturally distinct from Nebraska, Kansas, etc.
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Posted: 10/11/2013 12:46 AM
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I would say most people thing "midwest" runs from Nebraska to Ohio. You could divide it into "great lakes" and "great plains" if you wanted.

I think Nee was looking for New York, and he's finally there. He went to Robert Morris, in Pittsburgh, then to Duquesne, also in Pittsburgh. From there he went to Rutgers (Jersey), Towsen (Maryland) before ending up at the US Merchant Marine Academy.
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Posted: 10/11/2013 6:45 AM
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I bristle at being called a Midwesterner. I find the Great Lakes region culturally distinct from Nebraska, Kansas, etc.

I agree that Great Lakes is more defining, but I don't mind being called a Midwesterner. I agree with LC's take.. I would break the larger midwest up into the Great Plains and Great Lakes for better definition.

I also think the "rust belt" defines a lot of Ohio pretty well. I would have that stretch all the way up to Buffalo and Pittsburgh. I look at Athens and Pittsburgh similarly as "on the edges of Appalachia."
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When I lived in Wichita, the vibe I had from people was that everything on the other side of the Mississippi was considered "the east."  The women in my office all grew up in rural Kansas(most of them farm girls) and the common perception/belief was that everyone "east" lived in row houses and neighborhoods similar to those they would see every Thursday night on the Cosby show.   
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Posted: 10/11/2013 8:54 AM
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We Ohioans live in the Rust Belt.  Use that term and everyone will know exactly where you're from and that your daddy or uncle or son or all of the above is out of work.
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Posted: 10/11/2013 9:16 AM
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I've never, ever had anybody from another part of the country tell me I lived in the "rust belt."  In the 1930s people used to call it the goiter belt.  
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Posted: 10/11/2013 10:19 AM
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Ohio, like many states, has two many geographic differences to fit nicely in one regional definition. Athens and much of the river counties in Ohio are Appalachia, and completely different from the farmland in northwest Ohio. Both of those areas have very little in common with the New England-like towns in northeast Ohio.

When I think of "rust belt," I think of Cleveland/Detroit corridor. But it doesn't really describe southern Ohio.

Cincinnati has few cultural similarities to Cleveland, which was once on land owned by Connecticut. You can see that influence in some northern Ohio towns.

In many places, southern Ohio was settled by Virginians, and if you drive through western Virginia you get architecture that looks a lot like Appalachian Ohio.
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Posted: 10/11/2013 11:27 AM
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Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
Ohio, like many states, has two many geographic differences to fit nicely in one regional definition. Athens and much of the river counties in Ohio are Appalachia, and completely different from the farmland in northwest Ohio. Both of those areas have very little in common with the New England-like towns in northeast Ohio.

When I think of "rust belt," I think of Cleveland/Detroit corridor. But it doesn't really describe southern Ohio.

Cincinnati has few cultural similarities to Cleveland, which was once on land owned by Connecticut. You can see that influence in some northern Ohio towns.

In many places, southern Ohio was settled by Virginians, and if you drive through western Virginia you get architecture that looks a lot like Appalachian Ohio.
the area in southern Ohio along the river can very well be described as the rust belt. Have you ever been to Ironton or Portsmouth? It doesn't get any more rust belt than that.
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Posted: 10/11/2013 12:15 PM
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. . . In many places, southern Ohio was settled by Virginians, and if you drive through western Virginia you get architecture that looks a lot like Appalachian Ohio. 

The early settlers in Southeastern Ohio came mainly from New England, also; there is even a village in Athens County called New England (Rome Township).  A large portion of the early settlers from Virginia located in the Virginia Military District (see maps below), which is located primarily in Southwestern and Central Ohio.  Later migrations from Virginia to Southern Ohio came mainly from the part of Virginia that is now West Virginia.  These were primarily rugged mountaineer types and not the aristocratic slaveholding gentry from the Tidewater and other eastern regions of the Old Dominion. 






Edit: This is thread drift at its finest.  Though not a BA exclusive, we do it better than anyone else.  Not surprising, because we are OHIO! 

 
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Ohio, like many states, has two many geographic differences to fit nicely in one regional definition. Athens and much of the river counties in Ohio are Appalachia, and completely different from the farmland in northwest Ohio. Both of those areas have very little in common with the New England-like towns in northeast Ohio.

When I think of "rust belt," I think of Cleveland/Detroit corridor. But it doesn't really describe southern Ohio.

Cincinnati has few cultural similarities to Cleveland, which was once on land owned by Connecticut. You can see that influence in some northern Ohio towns.

In many places, southern Ohio was settled by Virginians, and if you drive through western Virginia you get architecture that looks a lot like Appalachian Ohio.
the area in southern Ohio along the river can very well be described as the rust belt. Have you ever been to Ironton or Portsmouth? It doesn't get any more rust belt than that.


Yes, I've been to both towns. To me, they are "coal belt" towns.
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. . . In many places, southern Ohio was settled by Virginians, and if you drive through western Virginia you get architecture that looks a lot like Appalachian Ohio. 

The early settlers in Southeastern Ohio came mainly from New England, also; there is even a village in Athens County called New England (Rome Township).  A large portion of the early settlers from Virginia located in the Virginia Military District (see maps below), which is located primarily in Southwestern and Central Ohio.  Later migrations from Virginia to Southern Ohio came mainly from the part of Virginia that is now West Virginia.  These were primarily rugged mountaineer types and not the aristocratic slaveholding gentry from the Tidewater and other eastern regions of the Old Dominion. 


Edit: This is thread drift at its finest.  Though not a BA exclusive, we do it better than anyone else.  Not surprising, because we are OHIO! 

 


So reading that first line, you are inferring Mrs. TOS didn't know what she had when she resided in SE Ohio!  Thanks for bringing us full circle!
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OCF, you're helping me make my point, although you're map is even more nuanced. Ohio is greatly diverse in geography if not culturally. Bottom line, some parts align better with Kansas than others.
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