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Posted: 11/3/2013 4:41 PM
The real football season starts on Tuesday. Ohio controls its own destiny for a MAC Championship and can not only win the MAC but get its first Top 25 victory against Northern Illinois in the MAC Championship game. The potential is there for finishing 12-2 by finishing against an over matched team from the Sun Belt in a bowl game. There is no chance for a BCS bowl but it would be Frank Solich's greatest season to date if what I say above happened. Even finishing 11-3 without a victory against NIU in the championship game would set a season record for wins.
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Posted: 11/3/2013 7:42 PM
They have been improving all season. If they continue to improve, they can win these games, but they won't be easy.
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Posted: 11/3/2013 11:45 PM
I just returned home from my son Zach's wedding in Cleveland.  It was a heartwarming and fun evening.  It puts me in a fram of mind to be something I can't recall being before: A pollyanna.  Ready?  Hey, man, what tickles me most is not "fearing" any Ohio opponent and feeling grateful that when the Bobcats take the field they have a chance to win.

As one who endured Ohio's Dark Ages (Cleve-Lichty),  I recall too vividly all those games when I knew Ohio did not have a chance to win.

Yes, I want Ohio to win every time the Cats take the field.  And, despite being one of those Tower Club fuddyduddies or old geezers, I get pretty intense during games, certifiably blue words occasionally escaping past my lips.  But above all, I am grateful that Solich's leadership has given me an Every Game A Chance To Win optimism.

Bon nuit
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Posted: 11/4/2013 4:07 PM
I would watch schools like Virginia Tech playing mid week on ESPN playing for conference championships and thought there was no reason why Ohio with the campus and strong in-state recruiting grounds couldn't have a program like that. Ohio does now have that kind of presence on ESPN and is consistently in contention for conference championship games and bowls every year. That is what big time football is about and its light years from where the program was in the 80's. Aside from the fact the teams played in the same stadium there is no comparison to the level of football played today. I know some on here think big time in the football world means to be up there with OSU and Alabama packing 100,000 seat stadiums and 5 million a year HC salaries. That is for programs whose place in the college football world is to contend for national titles. The Ohio program where it is right now is about where it should be; strong enough to contend for a Top 25 finish. The administration fortunately is trying to avoid some of the mistakes made by Marshall like over expanding to 38,000 and ending up marooned in a dying CUSA. My only complaint is the non-conference scheduling at Ohio should be stronger with the team built up and IPF in place plus the level of talent now in the program.
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Posted: 11/4/2013 5:36 PM
Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
I would watch schools like Virginia Tech playing mid week on ESPN playing for conference championships and thought there was no reason why Ohio with the campus and strong in-state recruiting grounds couldn't have a program like that. Ohio does now have that kind of presence on ESPN and is consistently in contention for conference championship games and bowls every year. That is what big time football is about and its light years from where the program was in the 80's. Aside from the fact the teams played in the same stadium there is no comparison to the level of football played today. I know some on here think big time in the football world means to be up there with OSU and Alabama packing 100,000 seat stadiums and 5 million a year HC salaries. That is for programs whose place in the college football world is to contend for national titles. The Ohio program where it is right now is about where it should be; strong enough to contend for a Top 25 finish. The administration fortunately is trying to avoid some of the mistakes made by Marshall like over expanding to 38,000 and ending up marooned in a dying CUSA. My only complaint is the non-conference scheduling at Ohio should be stronger with the team built up and IPF in place plus the level of talent now in the program.

Uncle Wes has captured my thoughts better than I could have. Except that I would add that, athletically, this is not just a "football school." The men's BB program is also very strong. In fact, over the last 5 years, Ohio is in the top 30 of ALL D-I schools for combined winning percentage of MBB and FB teams. Very impressive and a very good time to be a Bobcat fan!






 
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Posted: 11/4/2013 7:20 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
I would watch schools like Virginia Tech playing mid week on ESPN playing for conference championships and thought there was no reason why Ohio with the campus and strong in-state recruiting grounds couldn't have a program like that. Ohio does now have that kind of presence on ESPN and is consistently in contention for conference championship games and bowls every year. That is what big time football is about and its light years from where the program was in the 80's. Aside from the fact the teams played in the same stadium there is no comparison to the level of football played today. I know some on here think big time in the football world means to be up there with OSU and Alabama packing 100,000 seat stadiums and 5 million a year HC salaries. That is for programs whose place in the college football world is to contend for national titles. The Ohio program where it is right now is about where it should be; strong enough to contend for a Top 25 finish. The administration fortunately is trying to avoid some of the mistakes made by Marshall like over expanding to 38,000 and ending up marooned in a dying CUSA. My only complaint is the non-conference scheduling at Ohio should be stronger with the team built up and IPF in place plus the level of talent now in the program.

Uncle Wes has captured my thoughts better than I could have. Except that I would add that, athletically, this is not just a "football school." The men's BB program is also very strong. In fact, over the last 5 years, Ohio is in the top 30 of ALL D-I schools for combined winning percentage of MBB and FB teams. Very impressive and a very good time to be a Bobcat fan!


 

Uncle Wes has summarized my feelings as well.  I keep trying to say what he said but I can't quite make the point.  I also agree with OhioStunter about the OOC schedule..it could be better.  I do still contend that when the playoff system is tweaked to the point the big guys (schools, networks, sponsors) are happy Ohio, et. al. will be playing a very competitive full schedule among themselves.  Perhaps those teams that continually rise to the top will have opportunities to move up and play in the early part of the "BCS" schedule against Ohio State, et. al. but the stakes will be too high for teams to risk a poor showing against a "lower tier" school that has no standing. Still just my humble opinion.

 
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Posted: 11/5/2013 2:18 PM
bobcat2nc wrote:expand_more
I would watch schools like Virginia Tech playing mid week on ESPN playing for conference championships and thought there was no reason why Ohio with the campus and strong in-state recruiting grounds couldn't have a program like that. Ohio does now have that kind of presence on ESPN and is consistently in contention for conference championship games and bowls every year. That is what big time football is about and its light years from where the program was in the 80's. Aside from the fact the teams played in the same stadium there is no comparison to the level of football played today. I know some on here think big time in the football world means to be up there with OSU and Alabama packing 100,000 seat stadiums and 5 million a year HC salaries. That is for programs whose place in the college football world is to contend for national titles. The Ohio program where it is right now is about where it should be; strong enough to contend for a Top 25 finish. The administration fortunately is trying to avoid some of the mistakes made by Marshall like over expanding to 38,000 and ending up marooned in a dying CUSA. My only complaint is the non-conference scheduling at Ohio should be stronger with the team built up and IPF in place plus the level of talent now in the program.

Uncle Wes has captured my thoughts better than I could have. Except that I would add that, athletically, this is not just a "football school." The men's BB program is also very strong. In fact, over the last 5 years, Ohio is in the top 30 of ALL D-I schools for combined winning percentage of MBB and FB teams. Very impressive and a very good time to be a Bobcat fan!


 

Uncle Wes has summarized my feelings as well.  I keep trying to say what he said but I can't quite make the point.  I also agree with OhioStunter about the OOC schedule..it could be better.  I do still contend that when the playoff system is tweaked to the point the big guys (schools, networks, sponsors) are happy Ohio, et. al. will be playing a very competitive full schedule among themselves.  Perhaps those teams that continually rise to the top will have opportunities to move up and play in the early part of the "BCS" schedule against Ohio State, et. al. but the stakes will be too high for teams to risk a poor showing against a "lower tier" school that has no standing. Still just my humble opinion.

This is not a conference dependent thing. Ohio could join the Big Ten and it wouldn't change the equation. There is no way the school could accumulate enough talent to move past 2 SEC schools in a 4 team playoff. I don't think Ohio State can do it either. Unless a school is in the SEC or sitting on a gold mine of players like Florida State or Miami, FL and dominate 2 playoff games with an overriding level of talent its not happening. The old system was better as it allowed a school like Virginia Tech to make the championship game. Before the BCS, Georgia Tech and BYU won national titles without having to prove themselves in a national title game. As it is right now Ohio is on national TV more than Syracuse and Pittsburgh that is why I question how much better its going to get beyond winning a few conference championships and making a BCS bowl.

 
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