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Posted: 12/24/2013 12:51 AM
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Read closer.  His release was 6:13 PM, just about the time the busses were heading out of town.

Oops, nice catch!

 
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Posted: 12/24/2013 1:01 AM
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According to The Post twitter, one of those arrested was the already troubled Student Senate President (mugshot included from Pinellas County Sheriff!)

Drunk and Disorderly, the charge
http://www.pcsoweb.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?...
in his defense, he was born on the Friday of Halloween weekend, public intox is his spirit animal.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 1:24 AM
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Either way, given that people have been calling for his head all fall semester as it was


What? When I was a student (2 years ago) nobody ever said anything about student senate because.... what the hell do they even do?

I even asked a member of one of the groups (maybe Pear or iOU) what they have authority over and what they'll do. She had to have someone else give me the BS "do what we can for students".
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Posted: 12/24/2013 1:31 AM
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I was on it in 2007-08, and I don't know what the hell we even did.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 9:36 AM
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I was on it in 2007-08, and I don't know what the hell we even did.


Padded your resume and nothing else?

The last two years or so has really illustrated to me how powerful and dangerous the internet is, specifically social media. I'm sure very shortly after he was booked, the kid was praying the incident could be kept quiet, but thanks to some tweets, all of us here are talking about it. The whole thing could still even be discussed by larger media.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 10:51 AM
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True, but the odds of keeping it "under the rug" when you're on a trip with 350 other students is probably slim.

The fact that, out of all 350 kids on this trip, the one to get arrested is the student body president is exceptionally disappointing. Are you kidding me? How can your judgement be that bad? He is (and should be) held to a higher standard.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 11:12 AM
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Haven't we all roamed the halls of a resort hotel while completely intoxicated, screaming obscenities at police, and resisting arrest? I call that a Wednesday.

I'll ask again - why did the bus make a special trip back to the police station to pick up this clown for the ride back?

Seems reasonable to think he would lose transportation privileges and have to find his own way back. My patience for this garbage is razor thin.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 11:26 AM
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I'll ask again - why did the bus make a special trip back to the police station to pick up this clown for the ride back?


Probably a liability thing. Leave him there and you open yourself up to getting sued by parents. Sad, but the world we live in. Personal accountability doesn't exist.

But I agree. Should have left this clown down there to find the $$$ to get home. And if I'm his parents, he's not getting a cent for the trip back either. He's on his own.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 2:09 PM
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The fact that, out of all 350 kids on this trip, the one to get arrested is the student body president is exceptionally disappointing.


Probably a nitpick, but I wouldn't consider the student senate president the representative of the student body. It's telling this is the first thing I've heard about Student Senate at all since I left Athens.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 2:10 PM
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I agree that it is probably a liability issue, but if that's the case, that's on the university. I would expect a "code of conduct" of some type would be required to be executed before a student reservation was accepted. Picking him up leaves a piss poor example for those students who behaved.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 2:35 PM
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Elliot Ratzman thinks this is BS.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 2:45 PM
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If Rob Ford can stay in office, so can he!
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Posted: 12/24/2013 2:50 PM
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I think people are taking this a little too serious.  When students go to games and trips, they drink, when you drink you sometimes get in trouble.  How many people on this board ever got in trouble for drinking? 
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Posted: 12/24/2013 3:00 PM
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I think people are taking this a little too serious.  When students go to games and trips, they drink, when you drink you sometimes get in trouble.  How many people on this board ever got in trouble for drinking? 


For one, there's a fine line between drinking/partying (something almost all of us did) and getting arrested (something few of us will ever experience).

Also, when you are the student body president, there's certain standards to uphold. Getting arrested on a university-sponsored trip does not fit with those standards!!
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Posted: 12/24/2013 3:22 PM
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The fact that, out of all 350 kids on this trip, the one to get arrested is the student body president is exceptionally disappointing.

Say Monroe., as former student senate president, is this standard or is the guy in the opposition party?





 
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I think people are taking this a little too serious.  When students go to games and trips, they drink, when you drink you sometimes get in trouble.  How many people on this board ever got in trouble for drinking? 


For one, there's a fine line between drinking/partying (something almost all of us did) and getting arrested (something few of us will ever experience).

Also, when you are the student body president, there's certain standards to uphold. Getting arrested on a university-sponsored trip does not fit with those standards!!



So what you are saying is that it is alright to do that stuff unless you get caught?

 
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Posted: 12/24/2013 3:42 PM
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So what you are saying is that it is alright to do that stuff unless you get caught?
 


Not saying that at all. Can't you see the distinction here? There's a pretty big difference between having a party in your hotel room to getting tasered in the lobby. Many levels of escalation there.

There's plenty of students that have a good time but are doing so in a responsible manner. Getting arrested can truly ruin your life. Once the police get involved, you're crossing the line. And especially when you're the student body president...you simply don't put yourself in these sort of positions. You can't.

He's now being asked to step down and should do so immediately, IMO. As this story continues to gain legs it is harming the university's reputation significantly. If you don't believe this check the articles online and social media. Only a matter of time before this is picked up by regional and national news. His mugshot doesn't help matters.
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This combined with the homecoming sex incident will certainly rocket us to the top of the party school lists that come out in 2014.  Once all the facts are in, it will be very interesting to see how this is handled in terms of disciplinary action particularly when one looks at the last 10 years of alcohol related indiscretions by other students and staff.  Might be the last time we see university sponsored road trips to MAC and bowl championship events.  I sure hope not but the pendulum tends to swing very far left and right in reaction to this type of thing.

How many votes did this fellow actually get for student senate president?
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Posted: 12/24/2013 5:34 PM
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This combined with the homecoming sex incident will certainly rocket us to the top of the party school lists that come out in 2014.  Once all the facts are in, it will be very interesting to see how this is handled in terms of disciplinary action particularly when one looks at the last 10 years of alcohol related indiscretions by other students and staff.  Might be the last time we see university sponsored road trips to MAC and bowl championship events.  I sure hope not but the pendulum tends to swing very far left and right in reaction to this type of thing.


Agreed. 99.9% of students had a fun time, went to the game and managed to not get arrested. But thanks to one knucklehead (who happens to be a very high-profile knucklehead), these sort of trips may not happen again for future students. Very unfortunate, but that's how things work sometimes.

And it will be interesting to see what (if any) disciplinary action is brought against him.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 5:49 PM
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The fact that, out of all 350 kids on this trip, the one to get arrested is the student body president is exceptionally disappointing.


Probably a nitpick, but I wouldn't consider the student senate president the representative of the student body. It's telling this is the first thing I've heard about Student Senate at all since I left Athens.
I don't think it's too crazy to argue that the SS execs are just the biggest kiss asses to the administration than student leaders.

Nonetheless, regardless of how he got there, if you're getting a tuition waiver to represent the student body to the administration, try not to get arrested for drunk in public.

Also, he resigned his position today
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Posted: 12/24/2013 10:02 PM
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Probably a nitpick, but I wouldn't consider the student senate president the representative of the student body. It's telling this is the first thing I've heard about Student Senate at all since I left Athens.


Perhaps. But, at least SYMBOLICALLY he is. But I'd venture to guess 90% of students barely know we have a student senate.

This is more of a black eye to the outside world than perhaps the campus community. All people read is that the OU student body president got arrested and tasered. Tell me how that reflects on OUr school?
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Tell me how that reflects on OUr school?


Fair concern, but I think we tend to overestimate the impact of things like this. The most serious blowback from this incident is our rivals will have something to make fun of us about for a while. Most people won't see this piece of news and most of the people who do won't give it much thought... and most of those who do will eventually forget. If we had constant stories like this coming out of the school, that'd be another story. This will quickly fade.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 11:33 PM
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Probably a nitpick, but I wouldn't consider the student senate president the representative of the student body. It's telling this is the first thing I've heard about Student Senate at all since I left Athens.


Perhaps. But, at least SYMBOLICALLY he is. But I'd venture to guess 90% of students barely know we have a student senate.

This is more of a black eye to the outside world than perhaps the campus community. All people read is that the OU student body president got arrested and tasered. Tell me how that reflects on OUr school?


Well, at least it wasn't the president of the university found drunk in a gutter.  

Historical note:  This actually happened once in Ohio history. 
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Probably a nitpick, but I wouldn't consider the student senate president the representative of the student body. It's telling this is the first thing I've heard about Student Senate at all since I left Athens.


Perhaps. But, at least SYMBOLICALLY he is. But I'd venture to guess 90% of students barely know we have a student senate.

This is more of a black eye to the outside world than perhaps the campus community. All people read is that the OU student body president got arrested and tasered. Tell me how that reflects on OUr school?


Well, at least it wasn't the president of the university found drunk in a gutter.

Historical note: This actually happened once in Ohio history.
Let's tread carefully here, we've had other high profile cases we really do not need to bring back up.
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