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Alan Swank
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Posted: 4/4/2014 1:28 PM
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I wonder how his is going to go over.  Starting this year, if you have seats in sections 104 and 105 you are now required to "donate" $25 per seat to the obc.  Champions Club remains at $50.  My guess is that this will be a chance for lots of people to upgrade their seat location this year.
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Posted: 4/4/2014 2:17 PM
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That seems pretty cheap to me, especially when combined with $15-25 tickets. I can't see that most people are going to get all that excited over a $25 charge. At power schools they may have to pay $45-65 a ticket, plus $1-2,000 in "contributions" per seat. Ohio is still one of the best values in sports today. If I guessed the math right, two prime seats for a season at Ohio should be about $400, while they might be well over $4000 at power schools including contributions, if you could get them at all.
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Posted: 4/4/2014 9:39 PM
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This will again show that "donations" are going up next year, but the are not really donations, they "fees", let's just be honest and call them what they are. I "donate" because I want to, you pay a fee because you have too.

Buying a Shamrock for Jerry's kids for $1 at the counter is a donation. Having the $1 automatically added to your bill is mandatory payment.


And what seats in basketball will see this new "fee", this could be a bad year to do that.
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Posted: 4/4/2014 9:43 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
That seems pretty cheap to me, especially when combined with $15-25 tickets. I can't see that most people are going to get all that excited over a $25 charge. At power schools they may have to pay $45-65 a ticket, plus $1-2,000 in "contributions" per seat. Ohio is still one of the best values in sports today. If I guessed the math right, two prime seats for a season at Ohio should be about $400, while they might be well over $4000 at power schools including contributions, if you could get them at all.
$4,000.00, what power school has this structure? I've had 2 season tickets to OSU (I sell them on the secondary market) since 1990 and I paid $1,100 last year for the two tickets to 8 home games, that's a far cry from $4,000.00. And I paid no "fees" to purchase my seats.
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Posted: 4/4/2014 10:40 PM
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BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
That seems pretty cheap to me, especially when combined with $15-25 tickets. I can't see that most people are going to get all that excited over a $25 charge. At power schools they may have to pay $45-65 a ticket, plus $1-2,000 in "contributions" per seat. Ohio is still one of the best values in sports today. If I guessed the math right, two prime seats for a season at Ohio should be about $400, while they might be well over $4000 at power schools including contributions, if you could get them at all.


$4,000.00, what power school has this structure? I've had 2 season tickets to OSU (I sell them on the secondary market) since 1990 and I paid $1,100 last year for the two tickets to 8 home games, that's a far cry from $4,000.00. And I paid no "fees" to purchase my seats.

Boston College (not a power school) requires a donation of $3,000/year for a parking pass in their tailgating lots, which is in addition to two season tickets.  I hear the premium lots at tOSU charge a pretty hefty fee as well: http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/buckeyeclub/spec-....

 
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Posted: 4/4/2014 10:52 PM
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$4,000.00, what power school has this structure? I've had 2 season tickets to OSU (I sell them on the secondary market) since 1990 and I paid $1,100 last year for the two tickets to 8 home games, that's a far cry from $4,000.00. And I paid no "fees" to purchase my seats.

Ohio has seats without "contributions", too. Were your seats (with no contribution) near the 50? I think I have heard that the best seats at Nebraska carry a mandatory "contribution" of about $1500 a seat, which would be $3000 of the pair on top of say $1100 for the actual tickets (but some seats, such as endzone seats, carry no required "contributions").  I would be surprised if the premium OSU seats near the 50 don't carry a similar "fee", er, "contribution".

BTW, I agree completely - it is a fee, and should be a part of the ticket price...but...by calling it a contribution, a portion of it may be tax deductible.
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Posted: 4/5/2014 10:38 AM
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I give you guys big-time props for purchasing such tickets regardless of whether they are donations or fees.  Peden Stadium's so small that there is literally not a bad seat at the place so to voluntarily pay anything over face value for a general admission ticket is going above and beyond in my mind.  You guys at least put your money where your mouth is and kudos to you!
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Posted: 4/5/2014 12:02 PM
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Undercover seats increased from 150 to 275/seat. Come on up!! It's a bargain!!
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Posted: 4/5/2014 12:08 PM
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BTW, I agree completely - it is a fee, and should be a part of the ticket price...but...by calling it a contribution, a portion of it may be tax deductible.


That's correct.

I'd much rather pay 750 donation + 250 ticket price, vs 1000 ticket price for a premium seat. (that's approximate for Bobcat Black seats).
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Posted: 4/5/2014 12:57 PM
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Part of the $750 contribution will be considered for a "right to buy ticket", and non-deductible. They should send you a statement telling you what portion you can deduct.
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I may finally get priced out of my 4 Tower seats.  Have been sitting up there as long as I can remember and we are spoiled.  I guess I'd rather it be called a donation that I can write off.  The problem with comparing Ohio to State or Nebraska or whatever is the teams on the other sideline.  Starting to get hard to write that big check to see the MAC plus Eastern Illinois and Idaho.....



 
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Posted: 4/5/2014 5:32 PM
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D.A. wrote:expand_more
That seems pretty cheap to me, especially when combined with $15-25 tickets. I can't see that most people are going to get all that excited over a $25 charge. At power schools they may have to pay $45-65 a ticket, plus $1-2,000 in "contributions" per seat. Ohio is still one of the best values in sports today. If I guessed the math right, two prime seats for a season at Ohio should be about $400, while they might be well over $4000 at power schools including contributions, if you could get them at all.


$4,000.00, what power school has this structure? I've had 2 season tickets to OSU (I sell them on the secondary market) since 1990 and I paid $1,100 last year for the two tickets to 8 home games, that's a far cry from $4,000.00. And I paid no "fees" to purchase my seats.


Boston College (not a power school) requires a donation of $3,000/year for a parking pass in their tailgating lots, which is in addition to two season tickets. I hear the premium lots at tOSU charge a pretty hefty fee as well: http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/buckeyeclub/spec-....
Who cares about parking, my seats are 30yd line for 1,000. And BC sucks!
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Posted: 4/5/2014 5:34 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
$4,000.00, what power school has this structure? I've had 2 season tickets to OSU (I sell them on the secondary market) since 1990 and I paid $1,100 last year for the two tickets to 8 home games, that's a far cry from $4,000.00. And I paid no "fees" to purchase my seats.

Ohio has seats without "contributions", too. Were your seats (with no contribution) near the 50? I think I have heard that the best seats at Nebraska carry a mandatory "contribution" of about $1500 a seat, which would be $3000 of the pair on top of say $1100 for the actual tickets (but some seats, such as endzone seats, carry no required "contributions"). I would be surprised if the premium OSU seats near the 50 don't carry a similar "fee", er, "contribution".

BTW, I agree completely - it is a fee, and should be a part of the ticket price...but...by calling it a contribution, a portion of it may be tax deductible.
That is my total cost, I can produce confirmation for anyone who doubts. I refuse to pay fees when it can be avoided.
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Posted: 4/5/2014 6:11 PM
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Panda wrote:expand_more
Undercover seats increased from 150 to 275/seat. Come on up!! It's a bargain!!


It was $175 and now it's $250. Still a significant increase, but c'mon...don't lie.
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Posted: 4/5/2014 6:13 PM
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I may finally get priced out of my 4 Tower seats.  Have been sitting up there as long as I can remember and we are spoiled.  I guess I'd rather it be called a donation that I can write off.  The problem with comparing Ohio to State or Nebraska or whatever is the teams on the other sideline.  Starting to get hard to write that big check to see the MAC plus Eastern Illinois and Idaho.....



 


I can understand your frustration. I'm keeping my 2, but it is a large increase. However, I did learn this year that you can put your OBC donation on a payment plan...so that's something to consider. Also, having beer and wine up there is certainly a big plus. Count me in!
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Posted: 4/5/2014 8:31 PM
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That is my total cost, I can produce confirmation for anyone who doubts. I refuse to pay fees when it can be avoided.

Nope, I don't doubt you. As I said, all schools have seats that don't include a contribution. Also, some schools grandfathered in those that didn't have fees, and let them keep renewing the seats without fees, but if you would give up those seats, the new person that gets them might have a fee.

The one thing about the rising ticket prices, with Ohio starting to bring in better opponents, like Cincinnati and Kansas, that goes hand-in-hand with higher prices. Higher ticket prices allow greater flexibility in scheduling by decreasing the need to play "money" games. Ohio seems to be taking all the right steps to slowly build the program into more of a regional power. It will remain a bargain compared to the Big Tenfinity, however.
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Posted: 4/5/2014 11:26 PM
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Part of the $750 contribution will be considered for a "right to buy ticket", and non-deductible. They should send you a statement telling you what portion you can deduct.


I'm not fully sure if it is 'right to buy' or something else, but I think it does state that the donation to the Ohio Bobcat Club is 80% deductible.
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Posted: 4/6/2014 4:43 PM
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The cheapest tickets at NC State are around $40 per ticket per game.  Those do not come with a required donation but there are other levels that require a certain level of donation in order to buy the tickets. It is an even higher donation in order to buy certain parking passes.  

As others have said, I would rather have 1/3 of my ticket price be tax deductible by them calling it a donation.  Also, it is a great way to build up a donation base.  I personally was not able to contribute more than the required minimum for my Phillips Club seats the first 3-4 years I bought the tickets, but over the last 3 years I have slowly been able to increase my donation, which I plan to continue to do.  I may not have even known the Bobcat Club existed if not for the required donation to purchase my tickets the first time I bought them.  On top of that....if you don't like to pay the additional amount, just buy regular tickets that don't require a donation and call it a day.
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Posted: 4/6/2014 5:55 PM
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This is completely OK with me.

I sat in one of these sections last year and also bought Louisville tickets. I am fairly certain the minimum extra donation required for me to be eligible to buy Louisville tickets was over the minimum donation they are putting in to be eligible to sit in this section now. If that makes sense....

As I said, OK with me. Season tickets to a D-1 FBS program are not this cheap at legitimate programs around the rest of the nation. I feel like I am getting a steal. I will continue making the drive down 71 and 33 to support OHIO.
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To clarify, the seat contributions for these locations are tax deductible...the same as for any donation to the Ohio Bobcat Club. Seat contributions also go towards your parking pass:

$75- Blue Lot (Around Convo)
$350- Orange Lot (Walter Hall)
$750- Green Lot (Peden)

So, for example, someone who purchases 3 Midfield Reserved seats will receive a Blue Lot parking pass. Someone who purchases 2 Midfield Reserved seats only needs to donate an additional $25 for a pass.

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Posted: 4/7/2014 10:48 AM
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That is my total cost, I can produce confirmation for anyone who doubts. I refuse to pay fees when it can be avoided.

Nope, I don't doubt you. As I said, all schools have seats that don't include a contribution. Also, some schools grandfathered in those that didn't have fees, and let them keep renewing the seats without fees, but if you would give up those seats, the new person that gets them might have a fee.


As usual, you are correct LC.  Almost all schools have ways and means of getting fees and donations.  per link below, at OSU, there is a $75 "fee" to be included in the lottery.

http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/penn-state-fo.../

They also have a system such as at Penn State (STEP) where your level of donation earns points for better seating/perk.  See equation at end of this page:

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/buckeyeclub/spec-rel/faq.html

Michigan also has pay to buy:  http://www.michigandaily.com/content/some-wary-football-s...

All of it in the name of dollars:  https://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094191

Which raises issues of fairness:  https://nonprofitquarterly.org/policysocial-context/21269...

But when even the Troy's of the world are taking such steps: http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/03/troy_2013_foot...

It is obvious that any program that takes athletics even a bit serious, are creating fees and donations to offset costs.  So an extra $40 for Ohio does not appear out of line.
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If you want to discover the world's worst implementation of a seat fee policy look no further than our friends in Huntington.  I know a group of about 50 people who have purchased season tickets together for decades and are now not renewing their season tickets for next year because of the exorbitant prices and what they believe to be high-handed tactics of the Athletic Department.  They should have grandfather these folks in in some manner, IMHO.  Now, this group will continue their tailgate tradition in someones home (as they always have) and then watch the game on TV rather than actually going to the stadium. I think it'll take Marshall a long time to replace the revenue from these 50 seasons tickets with seat fees by newcomers.  
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