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Posted: 5/10/2014 5:38 PM
Just thinking that it wouldn't happen and ;then it did.  Congrats, TJ.
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Posted: 5/10/2014 5:46 PM
Congrats to Travis Carrie. 
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Posted: 5/10/2014 5:51 PM
The Raiders com through again-congrats Travis!
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Posted: 5/10/2014 5:57 PM
The Californian gets to return to the left coast.
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Posted: 5/10/2014 6:14 PM
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Posted: 5/10/2014 6:20 PM
Comparison on the Raider's picks for DB:

40 - Carrie 4.45, McGill 4.51, Dowling 4.52
Vertical - Carrie 41, McGill 39, Dowling 33.5
Broad Jump - Carrie 123, McGill 129, Dowling 118
3- Cone - Carrie 6.97, McGill 7.29, Dowling 7.04
Short Shuttle - Carrie 4.26, McGill 4.18, Dowling 4.24
Bench Press - Carrie 17 Reps, McGill not done, Dowling 8
Height - Carrie 6'0", McGill 6'3", Dowling 6'3"
Weight - Carrie 206, McGill 211, Dowling 190
Arm Length - Carrie 31.875", McGill 33.25", Dowling 33.125"
Hands - Carrie 9.75", McGill 10.25", Dowling 9.25"

Carrie Strengths: Outstanding size -- looks the part of an NFL defensive back with a sculpted physique. Equipped to jam. Has speed to carry receivers vertically. Good zone awareness and ball reactions. Good hands to intercept. Sets the edge in run support. Smart and instinctive. Confident and competitive. Was a productive punt returner and has worked as a gunner,

Carrie Weaknesses: Tweener traits. Pedals tight. Shows some stiffness in his pedal and transition. Footwork needs to be coached up. Does not explode out of transition or display burst to recover. Average pop on contact. Will be a 24-year-old rookie -- missed two full seasons because of hip and shoulder injuries.

Carrie Bottom Line: Smoother-than-explosive, height-weight-speed prospect who will draw the attention of Cover-2 teams given his physicality, ball skills and tackling. Special-teams ability adds to value.

McGill Strengths: Rare size with extremely long arms and large hands -- looks every bit the part. Very good athletic ability. Explosive -- recorded 39-inch vertical jump and 10-foot, 9-inch broad jump. Versatile and can play safety or corner.

McGill Weaknesses: Lacks the physicality and toughness desired at safety. Does not support the run aggressively or play to his size. Average transitional quickness. Footwork needs refinement. Recorded the worst 3-cone time (7.29 seconds) among cornerbacks at the combine. Will be a 25-year-old rookie. Still has some junior-college work habits and needs to learn what it means to be a pro.

McGill bottom line: Big, athletic, press-man corner with intriguing dimensions and movement skills. However, he does not consistently play to his size, needs to adopt a professional approach to the game and will have to be micromanaged. Would ideally fit in Seattle or Jacksonville.

Dowling Strengths:Has a rangy frame with room for added bulk. Excellent height and long arms to contend in the air and play the pocket. Good hands to snatch interceptions. Nice linear fluidity. Covers ground with long strides -- rangy off the hash to get over the top. Flashes striking ability when his shoulder blows connect. Playmaking ability -- 9 INTs and 8 FFs in last two seasons. Has special-teams experience covering kicks.

Dowling Weaknesses: High-cut and lanky for a safety -- durability could be an issue and he needs to add body armor. Gets bullied in the box. Average eyes and instincts. Takes some inaccurate angles. Shoddy tackler with poor fundamentals -- hits too high, ankle-bites low or launches himself and whiffs. Talks too much and shows off-putting body language. Questionable mental toughness. Thinks he’s better than he is. Character, maturity and coachability should be looked into.

Dowling Bottom Line: Lean, long-levered, smooth-muscled, finesse free safety with speed and range, though he's more interested in hitting than securing tackles. He does not provide dependability desired on the back end.

Interestingly there are some similarities here between Carrie and McGill. Both are bigger than most corners. Both missed 2012 with shoulder injuries. Carrie is old at 24, and McGill is older still. They might move McGill to Safety, and there are a lot of similarities between McGill and Dowling - both are big and athletic, both have some questionmarks in terms of off-the-field issues and work ethics.

I like Carrie's chances, and I think his punt return abilities will also help him.
Last Edited: 5/10/2014 6:54:42 PM by L.C.
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Posted: 5/10/2014 10:18 PM
Go Travis! Congratulations!
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Posted: 5/12/2014 3:01 PM
Of the 8 draft picks going to the Raiders only two came from power conferences.

Rd3 G Miss St (SEC)
Rd4 CB Utah (Pac12)

The rest-
Rd1 LB Buffalo (MAC)
Rd2 QB Fresno St (MWC)
Rd4 DT La Tech (CUSA)
Rd7 CB Ohio (MAC)
Rd7 S WKU (CUSA)
Rd7 DE ILL St (FCS)

Kiper graded their draft a B+.
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Posted: 5/12/2014 3:25 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
...Kiper graded their draft a B+. ..

I'm seeing comments that that the draft "gurus" don't know much about Carrie. In this article Kiper hands out Raders draft grades, it says:
ESPN wrote:expand_more
...the Raiders seemed to reach with their final four in terms of guys with previous character concerns looking for second chances (CB Keith McGill, CB Travis Carrie, DE Shelby Harris, S Jonathan Dowling)

In Carrie, I think the Raiders got a role model, not a guy with "character concerns".
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Posted: 5/12/2014 3:42 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
...Kiper graded their draft a B+. ..

I'm seeing comments that that the draft "gurus" don't know much about Carrie. In this article Kiper hands out Raders draft grades, it says:
...the Raiders seemed to reach with their final four in terms of guys with previous character concerns looking for second chances (CB Keith McGill, CB Travis Carrie, DE Shelby Harris, S Jonathan Dowling)

In Carrie, I think the Raiders got a role model, not a guy with "character concerns".


I think Kiper has "character concerns" in that he's a jagoff. Kiper needs an excuse whenever he can't predict a draft pick.
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Posted: 5/12/2014 3:57 PM
Raiders fans think that Carrie's best chance to make the 53 man roster is his punt return ability. Apparently the Raiders are very weak in terms of punt and kickoff returners. They will find he can play a little at corner, too.
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Posted: 5/12/2014 4:50 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
...Kiper graded their draft a B+. ..

I'm seeing comments that that the draft "gurus" don't know much about Carrie. In this article Kiper hands out Raders draft grades, it says:
...the Raiders seemed to reach with their final four in terms of guys with previous character concerns looking for second chances (CB Keith McGill, CB Travis Carrie, DE Shelby Harris, S Jonathan Dowling)

In Carrie, I think the Raiders got a role model, not a guy with "character concerns".


I think Kiper has "character concerns" in that he's a jagoff. Kiper needs an excuse whenever he can't predict a draft pick.


Given that it's the Raiders, exemplary character is probably a concern there.
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Posted: 5/12/2014 6:33 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Given that it's the Raiders, exemplary character is probably a concern there.

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