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How Often Do Underdogs Win Outright?
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Ted Thompson
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Interesting article from Phil Steele:
http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2014/JULY14/DBJuly31.html
The math:
1997-2013
Favorite of
# of Games
Lost Outright
%
31.5 or more pts
756
7
0.93%
24.5-31
902
36
3.99%
17.5-24
1522
97
6.37%
14.5-17
984
127
12.91%
10.5-14
1656
346
20.89%
7.5-10
1543
399
25.86%
3.5-7
2854
997
34.93%
3 or less
1890
892
47.20%
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Interesting stats, particularly for those of us who like to wager. Kind of illustrates what I was taught long ago: When betting underdogs, don't simply take the points. Split off maybe 25% of your wager and make a second bet on the underdog to win outright (the moneyline). You'll make money over time on these bets because of bigger payoffs for outright wins.
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Those numbers are about what I would expect, but I see one curious thing about them. If you chart them, you don't get a nice neat curve, as you would expect. In particular, the odds of the underdog winning when the point spread is in the 14.5-24 point range is somewhat lower than you'd think from the other points on the curve, or alternately, the odds of the underdog winning are somewhat higher than you'd expect from 10.5-14 and from 24-31.
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I'd also wager that the majority of the "underdog" teams are also the 'away' team. There are statistical advantages for the home team in nearly all sports. It'd be interesting to see the outcomes of games where the money team is away.
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